QUOTE="rrthusker, post: 3110442, member: 878"]If Harbaugh wins today there will be a run on men`s oversized khakis.[/QUOTE]
You mean the kind with the extra large ass panels?
You mean the kind with the extra large ass panels?
Michigan and Harbaugh..
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That's what everyone said about LeBron, right up until he won a bunch of rings. Harbaugh may not have a Super Bowl ring or national title, yet, but if your families life depended on the correct answer to this question..."Will Harbaugh win a Super Bowl or national title before he dies"?, my guess is you'd say yes, because everyone, including you, knows he's a great coach and it's only a matter of time. Maybe he'll stick around long enough to do that at Michigan, maybe it will be somewhere else, but he'll win one somewhere.
You've been one of Tommy's biggest champions. Tommy, who blows chunks and has won nothing and is lucky Joe Dailey played here (which is the only QB keeping TA from being considered the worst starting QB we've had in the last 30 years), and yet week after week you defend TA and can see a silver lining with him that few others can see, and yet you cannot wrap your arms around the fact Harbaugh is a great coach even though he hasn't won a ring somewhere yet?
9-3. Suck on that. Recruited to play in another system. Surrounded with the worst o-line in Husker history. Running for his life and yet he still made plays despite that. You've been putting him down and now that regular season is over you have a handful of others joining you in tearing down this warrior, you now publicly call me out. You pick the worst male role models to admire. Harbaugh is a douche bag... but he wins football games so that is enough for litespeed! So, here we are pointed out that Harbaugh didn't win again and you're pissed at OUR QUARTERBACK for somehow letting you down. You're on your knees at the alter of Jim Harbaugh, but you're taking shots at one of our own guys who does nothing but battle every week and play through injuries. If you're pointing out that he's not a pro style quarterback then you would be correct. He's the best we got and we should thank him everyday for waking up and suiting up. Without Tommy we'd be a lot worse off.
So, you suck it up loudmouth. You have patience with our student athletes. You wait until OUR COACH recruits HIS qb. In the meantime, you get to see a coach who shows that you don't have to be a five-star a-hole to win. We get a coach that teaches values to our boys that we can be proud of. We get a coach that doesn't embarrass us in the media and on television. I realize that Tommy did not have a great game yesterday. I watched the same game that you did. But TA was playing hurt. So, he was not moving in a normal way that would allow him to make the throws he normally does. He is what he is. I'd take him and his heart ten days out of ten over TM. But yeah, I'm hoping for better recruiting in the coming years. I'm just not going to throw our current guy under the bus. That team has one more game to play and yes he's my boy. GO HUSKERS!
Tommy has the 3rd most wins at this school.....let's be honest....a lot of our QBS in the past would have been garbage in this offense...even Tommy Frazier.
We will never know because they didn't spend their last 2 years carrying a crappie offensive line and have a defense that ruined your game winning drives that our so called knowledgeable fans forget .
Wisconsin 2014 up 17 points
Wisconsin 2015
Illinois 2015
BYU 2015
Northwestern 2015 6 minutes to go..couldn't get a stop
OR the games he put us on his back when the defense pretended they couldn't play football.
Yeah he sucked some games....but the rest of the team was garbage at times too...and he covered their asses....when did they do that for him?
We will never know because they didn't spend their last 2 years carrying a crappie offensive line and have a defense that ruined your game winning drives that our so called knowledgeable fans forget .
Wisconsin 2014 up 17 points
Wisconsin 2015
Illinois 2015
BYU 2015
Northwestern 2015 6 minutes to go..couldn't get a stop
OR the games he put us on his back when the defense pretended they couldn't play football.
Yeah he sucked some games....but the rest of the team was garbage at times too...and he covered their asses....when did they do that for him?
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The guy will take like 9 mil home this season which puts him at the top of the mountain, money does indeed talk. People were surprised at the amount of money Michigan was offering just to get him there, they threw out a number they knew he wasn't willing to turn down. Regardless of taking less of the pot to pay his assistants he's still making a bundle of money.
$5M is $5M, unless I'm not understanding the two $2M loans he will of received within the next two weeks.
Harbaugh's $9,004,000 salary includes two $2 million interest-free loans -- coming in the form of annual life-insurance premium payments -- one of which he received June 3 and the other he will receive if he is still coaching Michigan on Dec. 6.
Sorry if I came out a little douchey on that. Reading my own quote made me think I was being douchey. However, I've not been on TA's case this season, but I slipped up today. I shouldn't have posted that.
Please, he started at Iowa but then was beat out by Beathard the next year. He wanted to play and had graduated so he went where he had a chance to start. He was a 60% passer at Iowa with 34 TDs 18 INT.
If Armstrong had those same numbers Nebraska is likely 10-2 or 11-1
Harbaugh could not have this type of success at Nebraska.. he took UM cuz it's a cherry job... apples to oranges comparison. Nebraska can be a fine team.. but prob never at Bama or tOSU game again, demographics and modern day game dictate this.-sg
BS. Just excuses. I guarantee if Nick Saban came to Lincoln he could land recruits.
Not like he can at Alabama that's why he's there. I've tried to tell many a fan ours included this very same thing but they live in their own world
So Urban can bring 5 stars from all over the country to Columbus and Harbaugh can bring them into Detroit, but getting those players to Lincoln is an impossible task? Again I call BS.
That's only because you have really limited knowledge of the historical landscape of college football and recruiting in particular. Yes Nebraska used to sign pretty solid recruits, some awesome skill position players in particular! Especially option quarterbacks that most big-time programs were trying to convert. But I've been following it since I was a little boy, they never recruited like Ohio State or Michigan or Alabama and if you think they did you're tricking yourself.
You also clearly don't understand that Ohio the state produces 100+ Division I recruits every year, fourth only to Calli, Florida and Texas.
Ohio State doesn't actually recruit nationally all that much. They have a little bit more since Urban came into the fold (west coast & southern connections ) but they get all the recruits they need out of Ohio Pennsylvania Michigan and Illinois.
As far as Michigan they may be the only true national program outside of Notre Dame who has historically been able to go all over the country. I'm not really sure why, part of it's probably because they have a monstrous University and a prestigious academic University at that, incredible football success long before even Nebraska had it and they just have that cache'...
They also sit right beside Ohio and Pennsylvania… So I'm not trying to be mean but I expect your husker brethren who understand things like I do get just as frustrated with guys like you as I do with Iowa fans. It's OK to shoot for the moon, it's OK to have huge expectations, but you have to have some semblance of understanding of reality and your surroundings or you're just being delusional.
That doesn't even take into account there are very very few of those elite, elite level recruiters and you might take notice they always live close to exceptionally fertile recruiting grounds.
He'll even Oklahoma doesn't recruit like the Alabama's or LSU's or Texas'... and you somehow think Nebraska is in a better position?
Michigan just finished 3rd in the East.....great job Harbaugh.
Do me a favor and don't tell me where my knowledge of anything is limited. You don't know anything about me or what I know. Secondly I wasn't talking about what has happened so history of anything is irrelevent in my post.
The fact is recruiters recruit, great recruiters can recruit to anywhere. Just because schools like Iowa and Wisconsin have traditionally built their teams with under-recruited players and depended on diamonds in the rough and walk ons doesn't mean they weren't able to go out and recruit. It just means they have always hired boring, conservative coaches that were content with doing things that way and competing for a conference title every now and again was acceptable. And quite frankly, practically never competing for a national title. It's reminiscent of the attitude of Nebraska basketball and their administration. They are/ were content with the way things have always been and have accepted their place in the pecking order. Ferentz has as many 7 or less win seasons as he does 8 or more win seasons and was rewarded with a lifetime contract. So the expectation is set at 7 wins for your beloved Hawkeyes. Wisconsin is basically the same with 8 or 9 wins as the standard. No national titles because when it comes down to it they don't have the athletes to win those games. Why? Because they didn't try to land them. They don't fit into their mold. So win a conference title every no and again and life is great.
Will people please shut up about Michigan already? Six years into the expanded conference and they have YET to even APPEAR in the Big Ten Championship game. Michigan State has been there three times, Wisconsin has been there four. Iowa, Nebraska, and Penn State have each been there one.
Michigan...ZERO!!!
Michigan...ZERO!!!
Wisconsin has a 2nd year coach who is about to take them to the playoffs
I heard one announcer yesterday predicting Wisconsin was going to win the playoffs also as in beat Alabama.
I would still take take a Big 6 bowl if I'm not winning the conference...that's what elite teams do...just saying.
Nebraska from the mid 60's through the late 90's EASILY recruited with Michigan and Ohio State, and Alabama. I don't know where you get this garbage from. As of the last 15 years, clearly the team of great relevance in the B1G has been Ohio State, they've won a lot of games and a few National titles. Michigan, not since sharing in 1997, have they come close.
Counting the upcoming 2017 class, Ohio State has signed or has committed over 50 players from states other than Ohio and Pennsylvania going back to 2014. They get them from all over, so they are recruiting way outside your so called two state base. That they get all the players they need from three states is laughable as their recruiting says otherwise.
As for Michigan, they do get kids from many states, but Nebraska does as well and is represented by as many as either Michigan or Ohio State. And since the mid 1960's, Nebraska HAS been just as effective as Michigan or Notre Dame as far as pulling kids from multiple states, north and south, east and west. They may not be as talented lately, but between 1965 and 1999, Nebraska easily kept pace talent wise across the country. You don't play for national titles in four decades without that kind of recruiting success.
While Nebraska now is not what they were 15 years ago, it's been proven that that kind of success can happen in Lincoln. It may not reach that peak for so long ever again, but don't think for a moment that it won't re-occur now and then. And it certainly has a much better chance than Iowa.
I'll wait for significant proof, there won't be any but I will wait for a while ?
Honestly the football and rivalries don't mean much to me I just like to see how people respond & you can see I clearly hit a nerve because all of a sudden here we go starting to attack programs and "little hawkeyes", etc... it's kind of funny I'll confess.
Honestly the football and rivalries don't mean much to me I just like to see how people respond & you can see I clearly hit a nerve because all of a sudden here we go starting to attack programs and "little hawkeyes", etc... it's kind of funny I'll confess.
I'll wait for significant proof, there won't be any but I will wait for a while ?
Honestly the football and rivalries don't mean much to me I just like to see how people respond & you can see I clearly hit a nerve because all of a sudden here we go starting to attack programs and "little hawkeyes", etc... it's kind of funny I'll confess.
You don't know what you are talking about. You got scoreboard. Enjoy it.
And incidentally to the gentleman above that got so fired up if you don't understand recruiting is pretty regional and honestly there's pointless for me and you to talk.
And to the other guy who assured me Nebraska recruited with Michigan… Michigan claims 10 national championships between 1901 & 1948 they had a significant head start on you. In fact you could argue you've been a better total program since then but the point remains Michigan is national, Nebraska is not you have five national championships from 70 to 97 I apologize that you don't get this but it is what it is.
Do the research yourself
And to the other guy who assured me Nebraska recruited with Michigan… Michigan claims 10 national championships between 1901 & 1948 they had a significant head start on you. In fact you could argue you've been a better total program since then but the point remains Michigan is national, Nebraska is not you have five national championships from 70 to 97 I apologize that you don't get this but it is what it is.
Do the research yourself
I have to confess I enjoy fans like you two cats, we have them on our site too. I did a quick Google search actually found a Nebraska site that listed some pretty obscure rankings from Alan Wallace from the late 80s to the late 90s you're pretty consistently in the top 20 but never in the top 10 except for once or twice my point remains Nebraska has never recruited like Michigan Ohio State or Alabama.
It wasn't personal it was just a matter of fact your land locked in the Midwest it just ain't going to happen friends.
It wasn't personal it was just a matter of fact your land locked in the Midwest it just ain't going to happen friends.
Yeah, Michigan CLAIMS them, doesn't mean that it's authoritative, but you fell for that bait, too funny. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Minnesota, Pitt, Alabama, and a host of others make the claim as well during those years, and you bring that weak sauce?Only 1948 shows Michigan as an undisputed champ, nice try with the others. And claiming Nebraska is not national pretty much sums up how stupid and ignorant you are. Sooooo easy to steamroll through your pathetic drivel. You're just angry because IOWA will never get to the NATIONAL level Nebraska has. Deal with it.
And it's pretty obvious that Nebraska DID recruit with those teams, it showed on the field in the 80's and 90's. Allen Wallace. Oh, was that over rated windbag your uncle or something? You do know it's Allen, right???
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1901-1948... You do know they wore leather helmets and didn't play 2 platoon football right.
Just the facts.
Total wins Michigan, ND*, texass, Nebraska... Etc etc.
Nah, @Bugeater stuck his foot in your ass and you have no response. "struck a nerve" shit is a common response from you hawkturds the last 48 hours.
Beat both participants in the B1G game....
Setting on their ass watching both teams play for a title...
Good thing they do....nobody else recognizes them as such.
Using his logic, Nebraska won National Titles before Florida State did. So, Nebraska is "national" and FSU isn't, right? You just can't argue with such expertise, right?
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