We over paid for Rhule, better not get cheap now.
Matt Rhule salary
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If we hadn't done it Wisconsin would have then we would have Leipold or Mickey. In 3 years we either wouldn't have a defense or our offensive line would still be shit. Welcome to the new world of college football.
maybe.. i think we would be in a better position in 3 years had we gone with MJ.. it's impossible to prove either way at this point. Time will tell though.
One silver lining in the money discussion is we didn’t have to pay a buyout to hire an HC. That would have been dead money.
Trev got by cheap for Mickey being the interim. At a little over $33,000 a month more....Mickey took on the mess Frost left.....literally set up for failure. So...that is probably less than a total of $75,000 extra for Mickey. I dont care if MJ has never been a P5 HC or coordinator.......big difference between what Trev was willing to pay MJ to maintain the program vs what Trev ended up giving MR.
I was willing to give Mickey a chance based on a few things that he failed to sell to me. 1)His game time decisions were almost as bad as Frost’s. That kickoff return with 37 seconds left then having a WR miss his pass to the ref when you have 2 timeouts against Wisconsin was peak clown show.
2) I didn't hear any vision on what he would do, who he would hire to fix our offensive line. Without a line, forget having Trey Palmer type skill players. They'll break records but the ceiling is 6 wins which we failed to get to but should have easily. Not exactly his entire fault but this rebuild (trenches) is a massive undertaking that isn't necessarily in his wheel house.
Honest to goodness, I just want to look back at this post in a few years and say…
“Man, it was worth it”
“Man, it was worth it”
He would have had to give that info to Trev.. I was also interested in knowing who he would hire, but it sounds like it never happened.
As for the offensive game decisions, I think he left those up to Whipple, which unfortunately was a bad idea. That guy sucked and when we didn't have a backup QB, we were DOA. Not MJ fault.
I go to the person and was he right for the players and could he recruit. I think he would have been good for the long game, but we keep flipping coaches every 3-5 years, and this one likely won't last either.
Now if MJ gets picked up as a head coach, which may happen and he has a bunch of success, while Rhule is fighting off the media here like he did with the panthers, well it will be pretty obvious how Nebraska fumbled another one away.
Even if Mickey gets a job at a group of 5 and is moderately successful doesn't mean he would be here. We have receipts for that.
We don't even know if Mickey is leaving or staying. If he stays we still have a great recruiter and receivers coach. If he doesn't I'm sure we will still have some decent recruiters.
Would you stay after what they just did to him?
lol.. I don't think I would, and he's going to have options, but after Trev slow walked him, I wouldn't be massaging my junk for another season at Big Red.
No freaking way you hire Mickey with zero head coaching experience and little to no coordinator experience.
It was made clear that Mickey was free to make decisions as he saw fit and repeatedly we saw the same game management catastrophes that should be simple.
Could he make the correct assistant coaching decisions, the correct strength and conditioning program? Who knows because he's never done it before.
I'm lukewarm on the Rhule hire at best but at least he's been a semi-successful college coach that has taken two different schools in different conferences and parts of the country and won 10 or 11 games with them before moving on.
I don't like hiring a coach that was just fired but as we all know, the NFL is not college football.
Pay out the ass for assistants and give this thing a real shot.
It was made clear that Mickey was free to make decisions as he saw fit and repeatedly we saw the same game management catastrophes that should be simple.
Could he make the correct assistant coaching decisions, the correct strength and conditioning program? Who knows because he's never done it before.
I'm lukewarm on the Rhule hire at best but at least he's been a semi-successful college coach that has taken two different schools in different conferences and parts of the country and won 10 or 11 games with them before moving on.
I don't like hiring a coach that was just fired but as we all know, the NFL is not college football.
Pay out the ass for assistants and give this thing a real shot.
MJ was set up from day one. He was expected to create a winning season after Frost couldn't get it done in how many? I dont think Trev was ever going to consider MJ.
If you do the math, MJ made a little over 1 mil per year as the HC.
MR is going to make 9 mil a year?
Trev got by cheap having MJ the interim. Sure had never been a P5 HC or coordinator, and this was an interim position......but those salaries are on polar opposites. 9x difference?
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How much of that have you paid? Since you say “we”, I’m sure you’re keeping track
Nebraska fan obsession with coaching salaries is fascinating. No one here is affected by Rhules salary. The athletic department isn’t going broke. Why does anyone care what the salary is?
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This pretty much what I was saying last week. I think Rhule was Trev's #1 target (after he knew Urban was off the table). I think they were close to a deal, then Tepper/Carolina balked at how much they still had to pay. The deal cooled. Trev reached out to some other targets and got lukewarm response for a variety of reasons (Fickell being one of them). They re-engaged with Rhule/agent and upped the ante and the deal got done. In the end, it all worked out and Trev got the guy he wanted. Win win.
Not that crazy all things considered. Like it or not it’s the going rate for a top coach. At a place like Nebraska that doesn’t have the recruiting pool, we will have to pay a little extra.
It’s also huge that we didn’t have to pay any buyout money to the Panthers, that essentially increases what we were able to pay him by ~10 million.
No idea what people would be upset by this. We’re finally doing what it takes to win.
It’s also huge that we didn’t have to pay any buyout money to the Panthers, that essentially increases what we were able to pay him by ~10 million.
No idea what people would be upset by this. We’re finally doing what it takes to win.
crazy money from the Big and media, so who cares about salaries and buyouts from previous mistakes
What did they do to him?
Dude got an 8 game interview. He didn't win enough. Just the way it is.
You might want to look into that. Some of his former assistants are making big money at other schools right now, (Fran Brown at Georgia, Elijah Robinson at aTm) plus Mickey will probably cost us at least $1M if we want to keep him.
This is quite steep. It's also what happens when you set your sights on one guy and negotiate from a position of weakness. At the same time, it's not my money, and I'm okay with it if it works out.
It wasn't BS, that was what TA was offering until he finally wised up (with help from Carter) and offered the going rate.
MJ has been an offensive coach for most of his adult life. If he couldn't take the reigns to steer the offense in the right direction, that tells all you need to know about his abilities as a head coach.
Nice. Big boy football decision. We will likely always have to pay above the going rate to get someone big time to Nebraska. It’s not my money, or anyone else’s on this board. So much dumb on this board acting like the salary size is a bad thing. Children.
Or he could be, but had no option left after input from his boss and the realization that Monken was the most likely next option.
Set up? I don’t agree at all. Mickey was given the opportunity of a lifetime. One of which he didn’t earn. Despite some fan created narrative, Mickeys expectations were to keep the team together enough to finish the season while we find a real coach and plot a new course. Had Mickey somehow made a run, which was definitely possible considering the competition, then he might’ve been considered for the job. That’s it and that’s that. I hope we keep Mickey in a recruiting capacity, but if he has a better opportunity, then good on him.
If we kept Mickey, that means that we are ok with losing to Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Purdue year after year.
Absolutely, Mickey was given a fantastic opportunity to win the job outright and just didn't get it done. He's just not HC material at this level.
I mean his early pattern doesn’t appear to be Dan Snyder buy all the former pro bowl guys type approach.
He’s paying for dudes he knows and two of them appear to have been co- somethings. Not “the” guys at the top of the pay chain.
If he continues this pattern and will be choosy about where he’s going to spend big money I hope he calls Jim Leonard but I don’t expect him too.
Money had better not be an issue for top asistants other wise why even be in the big ten? Go to the top dudes with a blank check.
This ^^^ x 3 million more than what we should've paid per year for rhule. That's the only reason he took the job, he could've stayed home and got paid unless we overdid it
I hope you all loaded up on a case or 2 of Kleenex before the hire. My GIH I've never seen so much crying.
