Lawsuit Scoggins
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I feel like when this was all going down the rumor was that scroggins was pregnant with loves baby
Agreed. There were threads about it on this very board.
Also - “I feel” is not how any man’s sentences should start.
One of the issues is Love didn't get fired, at least publicly he was allowed resign which would appear problematic to NU even if the relationship was consensual. If this does blow up and Williams loses her job, at a minimum, the women's BB program is facing some serious challenges with two consecutive coaching regimes ending in scandal.
Good post. A suggestion: leave the opinions out of the description of both points
Regarding the AD and HC:
1. This coach had been with the head coach for 10 years.
2. The coach was suspended with pay while the player was immediately removed altogether
These offenses statistically arent one offs. The head coach is thus more likely to have had complaints before this.
I am not sure what immediate removal from a women’s bball team means from a scholarship/benefits standpoint
Legally, they would've had to suspend the coach rather than fire the coach immediately, because then they would otherwise be on the hook for his firing without due process.
I think we are tracking the same way. I must say though, from a performance standpoint, AW has the program doing well. Just landed 5* along with her daughter and this years' team is competitive and playing well.
Now, grounds for termination certainly surpass performance and despite success. If this berating incident happened, then like you, that'd be enough for me. As of the corroborated information thus far (that I've read), nothing rises to the level of termination.
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without knowing ALL the facts, I 1000% agree with this not being part of our culture....
Duke LaCrosse, Trevor Bauer, I think I'll just let the facts come out before deciding what really happened here.
Questions:Not good. NE will have to pay.
1. Is it against athletic policy for a coach to have a sexual relationship with a player if they're both consenting adults?
2. If the answer to #1 is yes (presume it is), and he was fired, didn't the University follow it's own guidelines?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, then how is the University libel?
I know that young women can get caught up with a late 20s or early 30s something coach, but if she's 18 and he didn't assault her, kind of having trouble understanding how the University has any responsibility in this, other then they have the deep pockets. In reading the article, sounds like the player had plenty of opportunities to say no and/or to go the the administration and she didn't until it had gone way too far. Also interested in how she feels she was damaged.
BTW, the story about the ruse and the 3 hour team meeting is a little hard to believe, unless Williams is a complete idiot. The allegation from the player is that she essentially lied to everyone about their relationship, so who's to say she's not lying now?
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Two sides to every story. Embarrassment and shame are followed by lies. We don’t really know how things happened or what really went on. Until we know facts instead of public shaming we don’t know anything. So simmer down with the firing of coaches. That’s your answer to everything. I agree there is no room for that shit here. Or anywhere for that matter. But we don’t even have the full story. Maybe we never will.
Agreed. It took two and they were both wrong. Then they got caught and now nobody did anything to protect her. How long would it have gone on had they not been caught? The dude deserved to be terminated, not suspended. But it appears there is not an innocent party here. We need the facts, if we ever get all of them.
Yea you’re right a WBB coach’s side of the story is more important than the reputation of the state and the university.
Nobody gives a shit about these coaches or their sport. Everybody cares about our good name being dragged through the mud.
They’re scumbags for even having this bullshit enter the discussion. There is no room for that here.
As for trev he’s either a dipshit for allowing this to fester or he’s a dipshit for allowing it to get out.
Losing and losing and losing and losing is enough embarrassment for me without this extracurricular BS.
You need to learn to read. Never did I say one side was more important than the other. I said we need the facts. Period.
They are allegations. It will undoubtedly be settled out of court. You put this in front of a jury at your own peril.
I think this goes to the a person in a position of power took advantage of a subordinate. That is how I see it as described in the article. I’m certain coaches aren’t allowed to have a sexual relationship with an athlete under any circumstance while employed by the University.
If there is no truth to any of it then it's possible nothing consequential will happen. BUT if even some of it is true then …..
You wake up. Anyone can go make a headline about someone. Doesn’t make everything they say true. I’m glad they’re both gone. They were both adults. They both made a stupid decision. And kept doing it until they got caught. We need ALL of the facts.
Hard to imagine a scenario where Nebraska doesn't scratch a large check here. I think we can bet on it.
You can suspect all you wish but if you don’t have all the info it’s just a guess. Might as well be a modern day journalist
Agreed 100% - if Williams aired this laundry to the whole team and allowed it be a public flogging she deserves to be fired. Who the hell handles it that way???
This was interesting:
"Sometimes Love would tell her that he was out drinking with Williams’ husband and he would invite Ashley to join them."
Maybe Love was trying to get a three-some started?
"Sometimes Love would tell her that he was out drinking with Williams’ husband and he would invite Ashley to join them."
Maybe Love was trying to get a three-some started?
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If this happened as alleged I would think Williams would have already stepped down by now. Yikes... what a detailed complaint.
Scott Frost was hiding in Scoggins closet.
Ok so me calling out people for making things up and posting about a serious issue going on makes me a Karen. Don’t be so soft.
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Thx, but I’ll continue to inject my opinion(s) as you and most us do on here. 🙂
Yes please, she is one of our most overpaid coaches in relation to what she produces. She makes almost $700,000 and all her program does is bleed money. John Cook only makes around $800,000 and he has won conference titles, 4 National titles, and his program covers its own expenses.
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