Lol. They wouldn't be screwing the Packers. The Packers have a backup qb waiting. And they need to know what to do with Love long-term. Getting a 2nd in 2023 and comp pick in 2025 isn't going to make or break the Packers. People dreaming it will is just funny.
Lamar Jackson
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Burrow isn’t stupid. I think he realizes his GM needs to pay other players in order to keep him upright and winning. I would wager his contract won’t be anything his team can’t live with.
More importantly he doesn’t have an agent advising him on what is realistic.
Rodgers retires if he does not get traded, right? That would screw the Packers out of a bunch of draft capital at the very least.
And if he plays, it would put them in a hell of a pickle in the future. Relations are already clearly strained between Rodgers and the team. Would they be quick to bench Rodgers? How would the team react?
Love is on his last year of contract. Would they franchise tag Love without ever having him play? Does Love test free agency instead? It would not be a clean situation.
Packers need a first round pick so they can draft another Qb. From the little I’ve seen of Love, he doesn’t look like the guy.
Players should try and get every penny they can and the teams should try to get as much value as they can within the salary cap
I would be surprised if Burrow takes a discount
Looks like you’re correct on the length. They have until next season to decide if they want to give him a fifth year option. Which is a slightly better position. But shelling out $20 million guaranteed on a fifth year guy who’s never taken a starting snap isn’t optimal.
Agreed. Part of the reason they don't want to deal with Rodgers anymore. I know people hate Cowherd but he's right when he said the Packers may as well not make the playoffs with Jordan Love instead of Rodgers and at least find out what he's got while getting experience for a young qb.
They can’t negotiating with his mom or anyone else except him. The NFL sent a memo yo All the NFL teams the only person they can negotiate with is Lamar himself no one else is registered with the League.
I don’t know if it was him mom or not but someone was contacting teams on his behalf and this is why the memo was sent to the teams.
Personally IF I were Burrow I would be happy with 35 M with a 2 year guarantee with the stipulation that x amount of dollars would be allocated to my O line. When is enough enough ? You can hamstring your team and limit your own success By “getting as much as you can”. His signing bonus alone will be more than anybody on this board will see in their lifetime.
$70M guaranteed when you've already had a major injury, a guy in your division got $230M & the salary cap is skyrocketing?
the Commies are going to sell for $6B
get real, man. I can absolutely see why you feel so strongly about not repping yourself.
If he cares about winning, he will structure a deal that leaves some meat on the bone. Brady and Mahomes were two recent Super Bowl winners, who had team friendly deals.
Mahomes will one day be a billionaire from playing, endorsing, and businesses. One could argue that they ended up far ahead because they put winning first.
What a team sells for is irrelevant to salary cap numbers and your team’s ability to sign and keep the guys responsible for your physical health. Rodgers bitched about the Pack’s WR corp but his salary was at least partly responsible for their roster. The same goes for Cousins.
1. what a team sells for is incredibly relevant to salary cap numbers, especially when projecting future salary caps
2. rodgers's team is led by a GM whose job is on the line every year. if GB had an owner, their drafts would've looked a lot different (for better/worse).
3. cousins' contract is exactly what you just said Burrow should take. it's also now average and very team friendly (half the cap hit as Daniel Jones). his team also has drafted the best WR in the league and traded for a top 5 TE during his tenure
$200M for a top-6 quarterback in Lamar will also look like a bargain in a couple short years (obviously)
And to take it a step further Rodgers was constantly unhappy about his receivers and then went and requested the Jets sign Lazard and Mercedes Lewis. And maybe Cobb?
Lamar Jackson is a top 6 quarterback & makes whichever team he plays for an instant playoff team
collusion (and only this) is what is precluding him from being under contract right now:
“I don’t think guaranteed contracts make our game greater,” Irsay said. “I think it makes it worse.”
this is nothing new. the NFL settled a collusion grievance 4 years ago
collusion (and only this) is what is precluding him from being under contract right now:
“I don’t think guaranteed contracts make our game greater,” Irsay said. “I think it makes it worse.”
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay: Fully guaranteed player contracts would make NFL worse
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay shared a stance many NFL owners hold with regards to fully guaranteeing contracts for NFL players.
www.usatoday.com
this is nothing new. the NFL settled a collusion grievance 4 years ago
One of the podcasts with Macafee or however you spell his name. Said he wanted to finish his career with Cobb and Lewis. I'm sure it's random that out of 32 teams Lazard went from the
Packers to the Jets.
Um. No. As an owner I don’t need to “collude” to keep me from doing something really stupid. Jackson is not a top 6 QB and I don’t want him on my Vikings. I would rather, gag, stick with Cousins.Lamar Jackson is a top 6 quarterback & makes whichever team he plays for an instant playoff team
collusion (and only this) is what is precluding him from being under contract right now:
“I don’t think guaranteed contracts make our game greater,” Irsay said. “I think it makes it worse.”
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay: Fully guaranteed player contracts would make NFL worse
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay shared a stance many NFL owners hold with regards to fully guaranteeing contracts for NFL players.www.usatoday.com
this is nothing new. the NFL settled a collusion grievance 4 years ago
He was the shiny new toy for a while and to his credit he lasted a little longer than RG3. Anybody guaranteeing him 3-4 years is a complete fool.
I love my mother dearly, but she's the last person on the planet I would have as my agent if I were in Lamar Jackson's position. I can't imagine his mother is more qualified than mine to negotiate a 9 figure contract. Give me some stone cold killers in that boardroom. Jackson and his mother screwed this up big time.
46-19 as a starter
unanimous MVP, has led the league in passing TDs and QBR
26 years old
name 6 better QBs. I'll wait.
His mother is not negotiating anything. The NFL sent it a memo to teams that they can only negotiate with Lamar personally.
Nuke went to AZ and most people would say Kyler is worse passer than Lamar. Stats show this much.
Hill left probably the best QB for Tua, who before last year, Tua wasnt considered a top notch QB. And if you want to talk injury prone QBs, look no further than Tua.
Adams left a HOF QB for Carr, and DC is no golden boy. And look at the impact losing his number one had on A-aron. Compare his 2021 with Adams to his 2022 without. AJ Brown went to Philly and before 2022, Jalen wasn’t considered a good QB. Look at the difference having a #1 had on Hurts.
And compare Allen pre-Diggs and post-Diggs. The difference is ridiculous. And if it wasn’t for Jefferson, I’m not sure Cousins is starting anywhere. Shall I go on?
And do some research on why Hollywood left before you criticize. It makes you look foolish. Hollywood left because he didn’t think his style of play added value to a team he considered to already be elite (with or without him). He wanted to be the difference maker on a team. And he’s just not that, not in a mike harbaugh style of offense. hollywood isn’t a #1 and knows that he’s a complimentary WR to a #1. Just like DeVonta is to AJ. Without an AJ, there’s less room for the deep threat.
Look I get that you don’t like Lamar but at least research and compare it to other similar situations. Maybe Lamar lost you money. IDK.
He’s missed 10 out of the last 22 games.
He has a very narrow skill set. His focus oughta be on getting to the Super Bowl, but it’s about the money. Frankly, not many teams want to design an offense around him. He’s not negotiating from the position of strength, he thinks he is. Instead, he’s getting advice. From the usual suspects. Sorry lucky Deshaun screwed you. You’re not getting that contract.
Narrow skill set?
Do you know how many quarterbacks have led the league in both passer rating and yards per carry?
Just one - Lamar
About as broad a skill set as exists
Thanks for the time to dig in the way you did. The receivers left and we’re replaced by whom? Where are the players going the other direction towards him?
No animosity towards Jackson, hell I hope the Ravens keep him. Shit, pay him the big guaranteed money. He isn’t a QB that will take them to a deep playoff run and giving him all that money the talent will only be less willing/able to join up. I’m a Steelers fan so he helps us win the close games against them as the season gets closer to the end.
He’s missed what ten of the last twenty two games. He’s not going to be worth what he gets paid because he won’t make the team better.
He's eventually going to land a huge contract....
.....that he will never live up to. But he will get his $$$.
You assume that record was all his doing. The dumb ass sat out of the playoff game even though he was healthy. What GM in their right mind would give him the kind of contract he’s demanding. F him.
IMO the media over values Lamar even more than Lamar over values Lamar. He might get paid but I have a hard time believing there’s a GM and owner as stupid as the Brown’s unless it’s the Colts.
The nonexclusive franchise tag is hurting him
The ravens get a chance to match any offer or get 2 1st round draft picks from the offering team
1. If a another team offers Lamar a big contract but less than Watson - Lamar is going to reject - The ravens still own his rights and will leak the offer undermining that team’s current QB and front office
No one wants to go through prolonged negotiations only to have to submit these negotiations to a rival company where they could simply match them
(Never agree to right of first refusal language in your contract - it severely discourages other companies from pursuing you in good faith)
2. NFL teams hold on to first round draft picks like it is theirs father’s vintage penthouse collection
The ravens get a chance to match any offer or get 2 1st round draft picks from the offering team
1. If a another team offers Lamar a big contract but less than Watson - Lamar is going to reject - The ravens still own his rights and will leak the offer undermining that team’s current QB and front office
No one wants to go through prolonged negotiations only to have to submit these negotiations to a rival company where they could simply match them
(Never agree to right of first refusal language in your contract - it severely discourages other companies from pursuing you in good faith)
2. NFL teams hold on to first round draft picks like it is theirs father’s vintage penthouse collection
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