Whenever a new coach is hired would you want to keep some of the current staff? If so who would you like to see stay? My only absolute no would be Mike Cavanaugh
Keeping coaches
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It is commonplace to keep a couple assistants for transition and recruiting purposes. I would think the two Williams' would be good candidates, as they are good recruiters and basically all our commits are tied to them. We've also had way too much turnover at DB coach.
I want as coaches anyone Scott Frost picks.
Amen
Amen
Frost's defacto OC is a WR coach, so unless Frost gives up coaching QBs and calling plays, Keith Williams won't be around.
I could see Parella staying on but D. Williams is out the door. 8 months at Nebraska isn't going to hurt his rep as a recruiter. So someone out west will bring him on as a recruiter.
I could see Parella staying on but D. Williams is out the door. 8 months at Nebraska isn't going to hurt his rep as a recruiter. So someone out west will bring him on as a recruiter.
If Frost comes, I'm sure he will bring Walters as his OC/WR coach, but why do you think Donte Williams is out the door?
I just don't. He doesn't seem like a fit and his CBs haven't played all that well. My opinion is that he is more relationship guy and recruiter than developer of talent. I could be wrong, I just see him as more of west coast guy.
Some of these guys are good recruiters. So wouldn't mind seeing them stay on in that aspect. Also want a coach who can coach too not just recruit. Do they have such a thing as assistant to the assistants lol
I didn't know that Frost called the plays. In that case, why have a position coach that has an OC designation?
Why would we want anyone from the Beaver Coalition to stick around? Plus we're 63rd in recruiting right now, below UCF and one spot above mighty Kansas. I say clean house.
I want them gone too, but I suspect our recruiting would be going much better right now without all of this turmoil.
There was an article in the Journal or OWH yesterday on recruiting. It had an interview with some recruiting guru (sorry for the vagueness but I hate linking from my iPad). He said that you can still put together a decent recruiting class even with a coaching change. What hurts recruiting he said is not the change, but the uncertainty. Recruits just want to know one way or the other what is going on. They want clarity. If you fire your coach you can sell the school and overall program to recruits. Believe it or not, there really are good recruits out there more interested in that sort of thing rather than particular coaches. Because they are smart and know that coaches come and go. So they are interested in the bigger package.
I think that gives merit to those who have argued on here that we should have fired Riley when we fired Eichorst. What I don't get though is why you can't sell the bigger package even if you wait to fire the coach. But I get the recruiting dude's point about clarity
How many coaches did Callahan retain?, Pellini?, Riley? I expect the next coach to bring in his staff.
I say don't count your chickens before they hatch, last I heard the HC is Riley, and he hasn't been fired or retired or resigned and is still out recruiting so let's not all get ahead of ourselves and let's let the new dude MOOS make the call, all else is pure speculation.
Callahan: Downing and Gill
Pelini: Gilmore and Watson
Riley: Warren (who left right after signing day)
I read the same article. It does make a lot of sense. Why would a recruit or his family want to come somewhere that is in turmoil. If the current coach stays, for how long? If he gets fired what type of system is the new coach going to run? Is the new system going to fit this players skill set?
I have said from the beginning. If Moos was brought in to fire MR no matter what, might as well just do it and get the ball rolling down the hill. So everyone down hill knows what is coming. Really I can only think of 2 reasons why he wouldn't be fired. #1 He really doesn't know what he is going to do yet. #2 It is a person like Frost, the deal is pretty will done and out of respect Moos wants all parties involved to be able to finish out their season.
https://nebraska.247sports.com/Arti...uation-of-Nebraska-football-program-109872209
Here's another more recent interview with Moos. Nothing revolutionary in it, but does say he didn't come here to have 6 and 6 teams. As with everything he says, you can take it to mean what you want, but kinda sounds to me like Riley needs 7 wins minimum to stay (outside of all other evaluations)
I don't know what Moos is going to do. I think it is an oversimplification to state Moos will fire Riley if he doesn't win X amount of games and conversely will retain Riley if he wins X amount of games. I would base it on overall team performance, player development, recruiting, fan support, quality of coaching. All of which I would give low marks to Riley and staff, but I am not Moos so it is anyone's guess what criteria Moos will use to judge Riley's performance.
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All that is fine but the criteria can't be constantly changing with the AD. To be fair, and some heads will explode over this, Riley should be evaluated on the criteria established prior to the season, not what Moos decides now. Riley decides for the assistant coaches and goes from there. How would you like to go to work for Joe and Joe sets the standards of what he wants and Joe leaves and now Fred sets up to win or fail with different standards. Moos has a very difficult task in front of him and none of us knows the criteria he will use. That won't keep people from guessing though.
But he also said something very interesting. He said he is still learning about the specifics of the last transition. He then mentioned something vague about players. My take on that is that he wants to look very carefully at what it was Riley inherited from Bo.
Fair enough but the point stands. Williams isn’t sticking around with Walters in the fold unless Walters takes on a different role and/ or Frost gives up the play calling.
I disagree with you on this one. I no longer work for a large corporation, but when I did new bosses made changes. When I got my first department I got great advice. I was told don't run it how someone else would, run it the way you want to. You can't expect Moos to run the athletic department the same as Eichorst did. That wouldn't be fair to him. It would be like managing with one arm tied behind your back.
His DB and TE/recruiting coordinator coaches have UCF ties and I would think they stay with UCF unless the new coach doesn't keep them.
Frost will have had two years to evaluate the balance of coaches.
Don't know if increased salary for assistants would cause him to bring in a new guy who might have been out of reach for UCF.
Frost will have had two years to evaluate the balance of coaches.
Don't know if increased salary for assistants would cause him to bring in a new guy who might have been out of reach for UCF.
So the university will be paying bo, Riley, diaco and the new staff too.. That's a bundle to have in salary... Do any of the current assistant coaches have years left as well?
I'm wondering if the same thing with Warren happens with the Williams duo. Wouldn't be a bad idea, but I don't want either of them here next year.
Why not? If he's a good assistant coach and you want to keep him around, it wouId be a good idea to give him a "promotion" for a position you don't even really need.
No disrespect but imho NO ONE gets retained... complete flush
He could have an OC/WR designation and Williams a WR/RC (recruiting coordinator) if Frost wanted to keep Williams.
Possible. I actually think KW has done a good job. Lost some good WR's and had his group playing well. They have some drops, but they are tough and make plays. You could argue Morgan and Spielman are the best players on O.
