You guys that want Rhule canned...

[Pennsyhusker]

IMO Rhule is a good coach but he probably hitched his wagon to the wrong play caller. Rhule I don’t believe has ever called plays and that’s a weakness. I think he’s a very good program builder and manager but needs in particular a better OC.

I also believe that fan expectations for a true freshman QB were ridiculous. I predicted these struggles against B1G defensive coordinators and defenses. Our defense other than IU has largely been good enough to be an 8-9 win team. Our offense has not. The reasons for that are pretty obvious and he’s taking steps to correct that.

Some of the problem is that we don’t have a great option other than a struggling freshman QB. . That said, if Raiola struggles at USC early, I would do what Gary Barnett suggested on the radio, bench him and let somebody else have a shot. I know you’re down on Haarberg, but the dude looked in control of the offense last Saturday when he came in and his feet might be our best weapon.

I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.

 

[mgbreis]

Had the same question when reading his post. And I’m also not picking on him. Just what makes anyone say “he’s a good coach” right now based on what we’ve seen here so far? Other than blind homer loyalty. He mostly says the right things to the media? I guess. Every other measurable is a C rating or lower in my book. Literally every single one

I share your concerns for the most part, but I wouldn't give him a C in recruiting. I don't know how you grade that other than just going by the usual stars/ratings. Maybe he can't coach for crap, but that doesn't mean other schools wouldn't whore their mothers out to get some of the players he's landed. Personally, I think the making the right change at OC will make every other aspect look better. A team that scores points has fun and looks like it (motivation). A team that scores points makes those decisions over timeouts and challenges less critical when every game isn't a 3-7 point nail biter.

 

[dinglefritz]

Rhule is not good in games. Botched timeouts, challenges are a regular thing in close ones.

Rhule’s teams often come out flat, so I’m not sure how he is as a motivator (ironically).

He seems to be able to recruit, but not we still have frosts guys at key positions all over the field.

If he’s a good coach, what specifically is he good at?

(Not picking on you, dingle, this is a general question)

I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.

I like the vision that he talks about for our offense but I believe he has the wrong guy to implement it. It’s very clear to me that some of the in game adjustments made were suggested if not demanded of White. I believe he also dictated some if not all of the offensive play calls after Dylan’s pick 6 last Saturday. Unfortunately the play was there but to Fidone not the WR.

The bottom line for me is that Dylan is struggling and we HAVE to take some of the load off of him with some of the run game we saw in that second half. Satt seems unable to recognize that. Satterfield had one good year with Rhule at Temple with a power run game and a future NFL QB. Rhule needs to recognize that year was an exception to Satt’s ability as an OC.

 

[dinglefritz]

I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.

I believe his judgement of Satt was clouded by one good year at Temple. That said, give Satt a mobile veteran game manager QB and this deal could look a lot different. They kept gushing about Dylan’s maturity and I think they’ve put WAY too much on his shoulders. It’s been crystal clear that Rhule hasn’t been happy with the play calling and it’s why Holgerson is in Lincoln. He’s going to fix it one way or another. I’ll be shocked if Satt is still here for spring ball but you really can’t fire him with 3 games left. That would be counterproductive.

 

[RedMyMind]

I don’t understand how anyone can look at the product he has put on the field at NU and still think that Rhule is a good coach. As a head coach he has had more losing seasons than winning seasons. Yes, he has taken two college teams from being bottom dwellers to winners, but then he bolts. So we have no way of knowing if the product he produces has staying power. Shit, even Frost parlayed one magical season at UCF into monetary gold.

I have zero hope that Rhule will turn us around. I have seen all I need to see. An uninspired team not ready to play and that is consistently outschemed and outcoached. Zero improvement from last year. Zero.

But yeah, we are stuck with him for probably two more losing seasons and empty stadium seats. What fun.

here's hoping he will end up turning 3 bottom dwellers to winners

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I believe his judgement of Satt was clouded by one good year at Temple. That said, give Satt a mobile veteran game manager QB and this deal could look a lot different. They kept gushing about Dylan’s maturity and I think they’ve put WAY too much on his shoulders. It’s been crystal clear that Rhule hasn’t been happy with the play calling and it’s why Holgerson is in Lincoln. He’s going to fix it one way or another. I’ll be shocked if Satt is still here for spring ball but you really can’t fire him with 3 games left. That would be counterproductive.

I agree that firing him should wait until the end of the season

 

[king_kong_]

I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.

what good is this when it doesn't translate to the sideline or field of play?

we need an $8M/year hype man?

everything he's said to date has not only not come to fruition, but it appears he's sprinting in the opposite direction.

 

[WHCSC]

Rhule is not good in games. Botched timeouts, challenges are a regular thing in close ones.

Rhule’s teams often come out flat, so I’m not sure how he is as a motivator (ironically).

He seems to be able to recruit, but not we still have frosts guys at key positions all over the field.

If he’s a good coach, what specifically is he good at?

(Not picking on you, dingle, this is a general question)

He’s great with the press 🤷‍♂️

 

[BTF69]

Warren is far too smart to “invest” in college football players.

Philanthropy not investing!!!

 

[king_kong_]

He’s great with the press 🤷‍♂️

awesome

perhaps he can be an actual football coach's press secretary

 

[drubendall]

I can’t believe I’m the first person to laugh at this.

Gotta admit, that was pretty good

 

[BTF69]

what good is this when it doesn't translate to the sideline or field of play?

we need an $8M/year hype man?

everything he's said to date has not only not come to fruition, but it appears he's sprinting in the opposite direction.

If your HC is not calling plays for one side of the ball or the other...they better darn well be hiring the very best coordinators that money can buy. Period.

That is their only job. HC's should ALL strive to get to the point that Bobby Bowden was at...your players and coaches were soooo good at their jobs that you can literally watch practice for 25 minutes, go take a nap and come back for the end of practice to say a few words.

 

[mgbreis]

I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.

I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?

 

[drubendall]

If your HC is not calling plays for one side of the ball or the other...they better darn well be hiring the very best coordinators that money can buy. Period.

That is their only job. HC's should ALL strive to get to the point that Bobby Bowden was at...your players and coaches were soooo good at their jobs that you can literally watch practice for 25 minutes, go take a nap and come back for the end of practice to say a few words.

This is how I envision it was for Tom Osborne. Just stand on the sidelines with arms crossed during a practice, didn’t smile, didn’t say a word, really didn’t move an inch.

Would probably have the coaches in his office for five minutes afterward, to give a couple of comments. Then on Saturday, they went out and mauled their opponent. After the game, give the most boring press conference possible. Leave it to the beat writers to spin their magical tales

 

[Landomatic]

I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.

I like the vision that he talks about for our offense but I believe he has the wrong guy to implement it. It’s very clear to me that some of the in game adjustments made were suggested if not demanded of White. I believe he also dictated some if not all of the offensive play calls after Dylan’s pick 6 last Saturday. Unfortunately the play was there but to Fidone not the WR.

The bottom line for me is that Dylan is struggling and we HAVE to take some of the load off of him with some of the run game we saw in that second half. Satt seems unable to recognize that. Satterfield had one good year with Rhule at Temple with a power run game and a future NFL QB. Rhule needs to recognize that year was an exception to Satt’s ability as an OC.

Sounds like you're basing your opinion on what he's said, not what he's done here so far

 

[drubendall]

I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?

Most definitely true also for his wide receiver coach. You gotta take some risks sometimes. Bring back Dr Route and put him on a short leash. His guys would definitely perform. Then Rhule says something to the media like, I’m not expecting my guys to be choirboys. They like to blow off some steam on the weekends. This is how you get your swagger back

 

[king_kong_]

I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?

or why all his first choices told him to pound sand like Jake Peetz did

 

[mgbreis]

or why all his first choices told him to pound sand like Jake Peetz did

He should've went the route of hiring some guy from the FCS ranks that had a track record of putting up huge numbers and that could've brought his best players with him. Like Kade Bell at Pitt for example. That's probably still what he should do as soon as Iowa is done breaking one off in us.

 

[Landomatic]

I share your concerns for the most part, but I wouldn't give him a C in recruiting. I don't know how you grade that other than just going by the usual stars/ratings. Maybe he can't coach for crap, but that doesn't mean other schools wouldn't whore their mothers out to get some of the players he's landed. Personally, I think the making the right change at OC will make every other aspect look better. A team that scores points has fun and looks like it (motivation). A team that scores points makes those decisions over timeouts and challenges less critical when every game isn't a 3-7 point nail biter.

Okay, let's look at the rankings, because you're right, that's all we have to go by. #31 and #23 overall recruiting rankings first 2 classes. So, an average of #27. By comparison, we had an average of #24 ranked class for the previous 5 years. Then take a look at some of the teams around us in those rankings. He's right there with the Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, Miss St, NC State, Texas Techs of the world. Seems like a C rating to me, at least for us