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You guys that want Rhule canned...

IMO Rhule is a good coach but he probably hitched his wagon to the wrong play caller. Rhule I don’t believe has ever called plays and that’s a weakness. I think he’s a very good program builder and manager but needs in particular a better OC.

I also believe that fan expectations for a true freshman QB were ridiculous. I predicted these struggles against B1G defensive coordinators and defenses. Our defense other than IU has largely been good enough to be an 8-9 win team. Our offense has not. The reasons for that are pretty obvious and he’s taking steps to correct that.

Some of the problem is that we don’t have a great option other than a struggling freshman QB. . That said, if Raiola struggles at USC early, I would do what Gary Barnett suggested on the radio, bench him and let somebody else have a shot. I know you’re down on Haarberg, but the dude looked in control of the offense last Saturday when he came in and his feet might be our best weapon.
I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.
 
Had the same question when reading his post. And I’m also not picking on him. Just what makes anyone say “he’s a good coach” right now based on what we’ve seen here so far? Other than blind homer loyalty. He mostly says the right things to the media? I guess. Every other measurable is a C rating or lower in my book. Literally every single one
I share your concerns for the most part, but I wouldn't give him a C in recruiting. I don't know how you grade that other than just going by the usual stars/ratings. Maybe he can't coach for crap, but that doesn't mean other schools wouldn't whore their mothers out to get some of the players he's landed. Personally, I think the making the right change at OC will make every other aspect look better. A team that scores points has fun and looks like it (motivation). A team that scores points makes those decisions over timeouts and challenges less critical when every game isn't a 3-7 point nail biter.
 
Rhule is not good in games. Botched timeouts, challenges are a regular thing in close ones.

Rhule’s teams often come out flat, so I’m not sure how he is as a motivator (ironically).

He seems to be able to recruit, but not we still have frosts guys at key positions all over the field.

If he’s a good coach, what specifically is he good at?

(Not picking on you, dingle, this is a general question)
I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.

I like the vision that he talks about for our offense but I believe he has the wrong guy to implement it. It’s very clear to me that some of the in game adjustments made were suggested if not demanded of White. I believe he also dictated some if not all of the offensive play calls after Dylan’s pick 6 last Saturday. Unfortunately the play was there but to Fidone not the WR.

The bottom line for me is that Dylan is struggling and we HAVE to take some of the load off of him with some of the run game we saw in that second half. Satt seems unable to recognize that. Satterfield had one good year with Rhule at Temple with a power run game and a future NFL QB. Rhule needs to recognize that year was an exception to Satt’s ability as an OC.
 
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I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.
I believe his judgement of Satt was clouded by one good year at Temple. That said, give Satt a mobile veteran game manager QB and this deal could look a lot different. They kept gushing about Dylan’s maturity and I think they’ve put WAY too much on his shoulders. It’s been crystal clear that Rhule hasn’t been happy with the play calling and it’s why Holgerson is in Lincoln. He’s going to fix it one way or another. I’ll be shocked if Satt is still here for spring ball but you really can’t fire him with 3 games left. That would be counterproductive.
 
I don’t understand how anyone can look at the product he has put on the field at NU and still think that Rhule is a good coach. As a head coach he has had more losing seasons than winning seasons. Yes, he has taken two college teams from being bottom dwellers to winners, but then he bolts. So we have no way of knowing if the product he produces has staying power. Shit, even Frost parlayed one magical season at UCF into monetary gold.

I have zero hope that Rhule will turn us around. I have seen all I need to see. An uninspired team not ready to play and that is consistently outschemed and outcoached. Zero improvement from last year. Zero.

But yeah, we are stuck with him for probably two more losing seasons and empty stadium seats. What fun.
here's hoping he will end up turning 3 bottom dwellers to winners
 
I believe his judgement of Satt was clouded by one good year at Temple. That said, give Satt a mobile veteran game manager QB and this deal could look a lot different. They kept gushing about Dylan’s maturity and I think they’ve put WAY too much on his shoulders. It’s been crystal clear that Rhule hasn’t been happy with the play calling and it’s why Holgerson is in Lincoln. He’s going to fix it one way or another. I’ll be shocked if Satt is still here for spring ball but you really can’t fire him with 3 games left. That would be counterproductive.
I agree that firing him should wait until the end of the season
 
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I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.
what good is this when it doesn't translate to the sideline or field of play?

we need an $8M/year hype man?

everything he's said to date has not only not come to fruition, but it appears he's sprinting in the opposite direction.
 
Rhule is not good in games. Botched timeouts, challenges are a regular thing in close ones.

Rhule’s teams often come out flat, so I’m not sure how he is as a motivator (ironically).

He seems to be able to recruit, but not we still have frosts guys at key positions all over the field.

If he’s a good coach, what specifically is he good at?

(Not picking on you, dingle, this is a general question)
He’s great with the press 🤷‍♂️
 
what good is this when it doesn't translate to the sideline or field of play?

we need an $8M/year hype man?

everything he's said to date has not only not come to fruition, but it appears he's sprinting in the opposite direction.
If your HC is not calling plays for one side of the ball or the other...they better darn well be hiring the very best coordinators that money can buy. Period.

That is their only job. HC's should ALL strive to get to the point that Bobby Bowden was at...your players and coaches were soooo good at their jobs that you can literally watch practice for 25 minutes, go take a nap and come back for the end of practice to say a few words.
 
I think you make a very solid point here dingle but I am still questioning just how good of a coach he is when it was HIS decision to bring Satterfield to NU. The test will come when he has to decide whether to stubbornly stick with him or can him. Satterfield should be fired. Period. And if Rhule values his job he will. If he fires him I will be cautiously optimistic. But until he does my thumbs down for Rhule will remain.
I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?
 
If your HC is not calling plays for one side of the ball or the other...they better darn well be hiring the very best coordinators that money can buy. Period.

That is their only job. HC's should ALL strive to get to the point that Bobby Bowden was at...your players and coaches were soooo good at their jobs that you can literally watch practice for 25 minutes, go take a nap and come back for the end of practice to say a few words.

This is how I envision it was for Tom Osborne. Just stand on the sidelines with arms crossed during a practice, didn’t smile, didn’t say a word, really didn’t move an inch.

Would probably have the coaches in his office for five minutes afterward, to give a couple of comments. Then on Saturday, they went out and mauled their opponent. After the game, give the most boring press conference possible. Leave it to the beat writers to spin their magical tales
 
I like what he brings to the table outside of the games. I also believe his strength is more on the defensive side of the ball from a coaching standpoint. When you listen to him speak that he’s extremely intelligent and he knows football.

I like the vision that he talks about for our offense but I believe he has the wrong guy to implement it. It’s very clear to me that some of the in game adjustments made were suggested if not demanded of White. I believe he also dictated some if not all of the offensive play calls after Dylan’s pick 6 last Saturday. Unfortunately the play was there but to Fidone not the WR.

The bottom line for me is that Dylan is struggling and we HAVE to take some of the load off of him with some of the run game we saw in that second half. Satt seems unable to recognize that. Satterfield had one good year with Rhule at Temple with a power run game and a future NFL QB. Rhule needs to recognize that year was an exception to Satt’s ability as an OC.

Sounds like you're basing your opinion on what he's said, not what he's done here so far
 
I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?
Most definitely true also for his wide receiver coach. You gotta take some risks sometimes. Bring back Dr Route and put him on a short leash. His guys would definitely perform. Then Rhule says something to the media like, I’m not expecting my guys to be choirboys. They like to blow off some steam on the weekends. This is how you get your swagger back
 
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I was watching Callahan and Sipp earlier this week and they were very clear that Satt was NOT one of Rhule's first choices for OC. They said he had difficulty putting together a staff coming from the NFL and that Satt was definitely the backup plan. Makes you wonder who he really wanted?
or why all his first choices told him to pound sand like Jake Peetz did
 
or why all his first choices told him to pound sand like Jake Peetz did
He should've went the route of hiring some guy from the FCS ranks that had a track record of putting up huge numbers and that could've brought his best players with him. Like Kade Bell at Pitt for example. That's probably still what he should do as soon as Iowa is done breaking one off in us.
 
I share your concerns for the most part, but I wouldn't give him a C in recruiting. I don't know how you grade that other than just going by the usual stars/ratings. Maybe he can't coach for crap, but that doesn't mean other schools wouldn't whore their mothers out to get some of the players he's landed. Personally, I think the making the right change at OC will make every other aspect look better. A team that scores points has fun and looks like it (motivation). A team that scores points makes those decisions over timeouts and challenges less critical when every game isn't a 3-7 point nail biter.

Okay, let's look at the rankings, because you're right, that's all we have to go by. #31 and #23 overall recruiting rankings first 2 classes. So, an average of #27. By comparison, we had an average of #24 ranked class for the previous 5 years. Then take a look at some of the teams around us in those rankings. He's right there with the Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, Miss St, NC State, Texas Techs of the world. Seems like a C rating to me, at least for us
 
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Okay, let's look at the rankings, because you're right, that's all we have to go by. #31 and #23 overall recruiting rankings first 2 classes. So, an average of #27. By comparison, we had an average of #24 ranked class for the previous 5 years. Then take a look at some of the teams around us in those rankings. He's right there with the Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, Miss St, NC State, Texas Techs of the world. Seems like a C rating to me, at least for us
worse because all those teams listed would or have already beaten him on the field.

mizzou, ark, texas tech would beat us by 50 if we played them this weekend
maryland is 1-0 vs rhule
UNC, NC state, UK might be good games
Miss St is the only team listed that we'd have a good shot against
 
I think Sam M just made a really astute point with this tweet regarding Florida announcing that they're keeping Napier:


Boosters - do you want your money to go to fired coaches, or do you want it going to NIL to hire more talent? Rhule needs to get some better brains on the offensive staff, but screw paying a buyout.
This coaching thing is a scam , big fat contracts paid out with dismal results and no accountability.
 
I think Sam M just made a really astute point with this tweet regarding Florida announcing that they're keeping Napier:


Boosters - do you want your money to go to fired coaches, or do you want it going to NIL to hire more talent? Rhule needs to get some better brains on the offensive staff, but screw paying a buyout.
Then force the hard headed .500 coach to make wholesale change and can the whole offensive staff and special teams coach. Yes Matt even your buddies and the lousy kid coaching receivers.
 
Sounds like you're basing your opinion on what he's said, not what he's done here so far
I believe he’s telling the truth when he says he WANTS to be a physical power run team. Look at the play calling after the pick 6 when he grabbed a play sheet.
 
Here's the kind of contract structure I'd love to see but will never happen:
$500K per win until you get to 6. Zero for losses.
$1.5M for every win over 6, $500K for every loss after 6 wins.
$5M minimum
 
what good is this when it doesn't translate to the sideline or field of play?

we need an $8M/year hype man?

everything he's said to date has not only not come to fruition, but it appears he's sprinting in the opposite direction.
Let’s see what happens with his staff . I expect there will be a major shakeup on offense. IF Satt is still here for spring ball I’ll be shocked. Fix the OC position and you’ll fix a large portion of our problems.
 
Cignetti and Campbell (and several others) weren't in a position to demand a King's ransom when they were hired. Even though they could make more money somewhere else I bet they stay at their schools and build a legacy. The real thing schools need to focus on is getting a quality athletic director who can identify a diamond in the rough. The truth is most schools haven't demanded excellence from ADs because the money has been exploding for the last 50 yrs.
That's changing (in terms of excess relative to need) and their might be some accountability coming to athletic departments across the country. Emphasis on "might be". 80 years of fluoridation has lowered the avg IQ below Chris Kattan.


I don't disagree with that. I guess I worded what I was saying wrong. To the layman fan those guys were "nobodys" when they got those jobs. If they were more known "somebody's " the price would've been higher.

The Matt Ruhle who we got costed a whole lot more then the one that Tenple got. Right or wrong that's just how it is.

Now I agree that if you can find a Cignetti or someone similar good for you. But Nebraska fans would've shit bricks if we had hired Cignetti instead of a Rhule. Just what it is...



Holla
 
I don't disagree with that. I guess I worded what I was saying wrong. To the layman fan those guys were "nobodys" when they got those jobs. If they were more known "somebody's " the price would've been higher.

The Matt Ruhle who we got costed a whole lot more then the one that Tenple got. Right or wrong that's just how it is.

Now I agree that if you can find a Cignetti or someone similar good for you. But Nebraska fans would've shit bricks if we had hired Cignetti instead of a Rhule. Just what it is...



Holla
I posted multiple times before we hired Rhule that I would be fine if we hired a young up and comer nobody had ever heard of. That said, that approach carried tremendous risk. For every Cignetti there’s dozens of guys who have failed. We’ll see if Cignetti can replicate his success in coming years. KU is another case to watch.
 
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Let’s see what happens with his staff . I expect there will be a major shakeup on offense. IF Satt is still here for spring ball I’ll be shocked. Fix the OC position and you’ll fix a large portion of our problems.
I respectfully disagree.

our OL coach has never been anything but a disaster. we constantly are forced to replace coaches weeks prior to the season starting. nobody can point to a single assistant on offense whose career is trending upward.

how Rhule & his backers level his rhetoric (physical, 4th quarter team) with the reality of where this program's gone under him (pansy, finesse, pass-happy, loser mentality) will forever be a mystery to many.

the OC is a symptom, not the disease.

when Rhule is through here I'm not sure he will ever meaningfully work in football again, similar to Bo and frost.
 
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I believe he’s telling the truth when he says he WANTS to be a physical power run team. Look at the play calling after the pick 6 when he grabbed a play sheet.

But what does that do to qualify him as a "good coach" in your mind? I'm just having a hard time seeing what would make you think that based on any of his performances so far, other than what he's saying to the media? There's a line a mile long of coaches who say the right things to the media. Maybe we just have different definitions of what "good" is. I thought he was a good coach too until he got here and has been average or below on what he's DONE, not what he's said. Not saying he can't be good. Or that he wasn't good at previous stops. But, he has been far from good here

IMO Rhule is a good coach
 
But what does that do to qualify him as a "good coach" in your mind? I'm just having a hard time seeing what would make you think that based on any of his performances so far, other than what he's saying to the media? There's a line a mile long of coaches who say the right things to the media. Maybe we just have different definitions of what "good" is. I thought he was a good coach too until he got here and has been average or below on what he's DONE, not what he's said. Not saying he can't be good. Or that he wasn't good at previous stops. But, he has been far from good here
He has proven in his stints at Temple and Baylor that he’s a good college coach. We needed a rebuild. He’s doing that but unfortunately IMO his OC hire isn’t working out. I like the process he’s using and I believe it will be successful. Indiana won the lottery apparently. We’re going to have to work for ours. Fix the glaring problem at OC and hopefully develop aQB then let’s see what happens.

Rhule was clearly aware Satt needed help so he hired Thomas. Now he’s brought in very respected analysts to address concerns he still has. Rhule is not an OC. He’s not a play caller but he clearly sees the problem and is striving to fix it in season. I’m going to give him a chance to adjust his staff.
 
I respectfully disagree.

our OL coach has never been anything but a disaster. we constantly are forced to replace coaches weeks prior to the season starting. nobody can point to a single assistant on offense whose career is trending upward.

how Rhule & his backers level his rhetoric (physical, 4th quarter team) with the reality of where this program's gone under him (pansy, finesse, pass-happy, loser mentality) will forever be a mystery to many.

the OC is a symptom, not the disease.

when Rhule is through here I'm not sure he will ever meaningfully work in football again, similar to Bo and frost.

It's not that big of a mystery. Lots of blind homers in every fanbase. The ones who are willing to support with blind faith at all costs, and if you don't, you must be a troll. They're worse than the sky is always falling fans in my opinion because they enable mediocrity and it leads to lack of accountability.
 
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I respectfully disagree.

our OL coach has never been anything but a disaster. we constantly are forced to replace coaches weeks prior to the season starting. nobody can point to a single assistant on offense whose career is trending upward.

how Rhule & his backers level his rhetoric (physical, 4th quarter team) with the reality of where this program's gone under him (pansy, finesse, pass-happy, loser mentality) will forever be a mystery to many.

the OC is a symptom, not the disease.

when Rhule is through here I'm not sure he will ever meaningfully work in football again, similar to Bo and frost.
I disagree with your assessment of Donovan. There’s only so much a line coach can do when some of your OC’s play designs are ridiculous. Then you add in Satt’s propensity to come out and make his freshman QB throw the ball 5 times in a row.
 
It's not that big of a mystery. Lots of blind homers in every fanbase. The ones who are willing to support with blind faith at all costs, and if you don't, you must be a troll. They're worse than the sky is always falling fans in my opinion because they enable mediocrity and it leads to lack of accountability.
what Rhule says and what Rhule does have been at odds since he ran out on the field for his first ever 2nd half as our head coach.
 
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I disagree with your assessment of Donovan. There’s only so much a line coach can do when some of your OC’s play designs are ridiculous. Then you add in Satt’s propensity to come out and make his freshman QB throw the ball 5 times in a row.
when he's eventually relieved of his duties here nobody will hire him to run an OL room on his own.
 
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