Good point. I would imagine part of AMs pre-snap thoughts have to be whether or not he is even going to get the snap. That has to be very distracting when you're also trying to read a defense.
Is it time to pull the plug on Jurgens?
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Good point. I would imagine part of AMs pre-snap thoughts have to be whether or not he is even going to get the snap. That has to be very distracting when you're also trying to read a defense.
I'm with you , I understand our deficiencies. I also understand the position he's in {frosh, new at position}. Jurgens was part of the problem in the previous games but today really showcased the effect his snaps are having. I mean the 3rd & 1 {after the over the head snap} with Vedral when we were stopped is a prime example of his impact. We convert that with a decent snap. Game changer in the 4th quarter if you ask me.
A pre-season top 25 FCA team should not ever have a RS Freshman from Beatrice, Nebraska on the field, let alone starting. That was a red flag from the get-go.
Might have to give the "Rube Baker" solution. Read some Cosmo and JC Penny mags and recite the words to settle him down.
I'm not blaming him! I am blaming the coaches. For christ sake, Frost's stubbornness is holding the team back
CJ will be fine. The more he does it the better he’ll get. It really does disrupt play flow. He’ll become polished and end up in the NFL in 3 years. We need a lot of polishing up right now, he’s just one part of it.
Jurgens has inexcusable snap issues (it really is not ok), and our “leader” Martinez can’t hit a 5 yd touch pass to save his life, which is equally inexcusable for me. Then the WR’s are dropping the easy ones. Our guys definitely need to work on ball handling in all facets.
It also tells me that if we clean up those easy things combined with a little improvement in blocking, our team will be much much better. Maybe not amazing, but significantly improved.
It also tells me that if we clean up those easy things combined with a little improvement in blocking, our team will be much much better. Maybe not amazing, but significantly improved.
Yes he was a senior but he hadn't every played center in a game before our starter went down. Farmer had way less bad snaps than Jurgens has. Even Steve Taylor has seen enough of Jurgens at center but he also notes how poor our quality depth is on the O line is right now.
What does being from Beatrice have to do with anything? I remember a few years ago we had a quarterback from Wood River? I remember a guy from Gothenburg who went to Wyoming and had a pretty successful career with the Cowboys?
IDK, Farmer was pretty bad in his first couple games...it got better...not sure how much...the offensive line was still dominated any time we played a defense with a pulse. Obviously having a freshman at center is a bad thing...and Jurgens wouldn't be playing in most situations but I don't think he deserves the abuse he gets...we have guys on the same line who have years of experience who are also pretty mediocre---bad.
We've had games where our offensive line was scoring 10% block completion, they are missing 90% of their blocks....a bad snap is no worse than all of the other misses in execution that occur on the field. Wrs are not where they are supposed to be, rbs are not hitting the holes that do not exist, Qbs are not throwing accurate passes, are not running when given an opportunity...bad snaps are obvious, the other stuff isn't but the responsibility for the poor play is spread to everyone. A Frost offense doesn't sputter unless everyone is hurt, or not executing.
He deserves his share because he is part of the problem but certainly not all of our problems. I agree that he doesn’t exactly deserve the abuse. We’re in no position to be picky here and it’s something we’re going to have to ride out.
Only way he gets replaced is if he gets hurt. Don't wish that on anyone
In 2016 when Colorado had its best season in recent memory, the Buffs had a center named Alex Kelly who put the point of the ball on the ground and snapped it to the QB with no spin on it at all. I'm sure others have used that technique too, but I remember Kelly because I don't think he had a bad snap all season. I wonder if this might work for Jurgens? Seems like it can't get a whole lot worse at this point.
They did recruit a JUCO center, but he was never eligible. That's a blunder on the recruiting front.
There are only so many JUCO centers who could hold up in power 5 football. We went after maybe the only guy out there that fit the bill and he didn't qualify. How is that a recruiting failure for Frost? For many many years, Tom and Milt built centers. It is very common for college centers to have never played center before. What's not good is us having to play a redshirt freshman who has never played center AND ALSO was hurt most of the spring and summer. IOWA is starting a kid at center who was recently moved from DT. We're all worried about these first games of the year. I think Frost is thinking more long term than the average fan. Imagine what Jurgens can be by the time he's a junior when we have a senior QB. That year potentially we will have a line consisting of 4 juniors and one senior.
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...p-revolutionizing-quarterback-center-exchange
Why not try the “dead snap”
Why not try the “dead snap”
Yeah that's what I was referring to above with regard to Colorado, but I didn't know there was a name for it. Seems to work well for some centers. Have to think it's worth a shot.
Asking a struggling true freshman to change techniques mid-season sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can't believe we're in the 6th game of the season and still having this discussion. They really can't work with him every day to get the snaps down? If he can't do it, replace him with someone who can. It has been an obvious, recognizable disruption in the timing of the offense. The coaching staff has been far too stubborn in refusing to address the problem.
We used the dead snap in pee wee football so it’s not like he’s having to learn some difficult technique. Practice it for 5 minutes and you’re cool.
And staying with his current technique is a recipe for... what, exactly?
You're right, we're just ignoring the obvious solution of inserting a different player at center. Why the coaches haven't thought of this is beyond me.
Are people forgetting that the backup is also a RS frosh who might snap the ball better, but also possibly get eaten alive by B1G Dlines.
