I miss the Big 12

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  1. Madison6661

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    Sure. I just went online and took the information from the Big Ten commissioner and the Big 12 commissioner and their sites as well as articles that were written covering the payouts for both teams. I did have to research each year (which took time) and in some years I did find the payouts could differ by a +-million dollars depending on the source or article I was reading. I was just trying to put together an HONEST look at the money. The major reason for the difference is that Nebraska was not at a full share of the Big Ten revenue for the first seven years. That being said the numbers are the numbers and Kansas State has made 74 million dollars more than Nebraska since Nebraska has joined the Big Ten. As I also stated Nebraska will make 50 million dollars this year with as a full share member. Even if Kansas State only makes 40 million this year (low) and my numbers were off by 24 million (not possible but let's go with it) so that Kansas State only had more income of 50 mil instead of the 74 mil compared to Nebraska, it would take Nebraska 5 more years to even break even with Kansas State.
    And again Kansas State is towards the bottom of the Big 12 in revenue. It is well documented that Texas makes 15 mil a year just on the tier 3 money. In the long run Nebraska may make more money but the truth is the truth.
     
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    One other thing, I believe the BIG paid our severance fee to the big12
     
  5. Jah Broni

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    I miss the Big 12 but can you imagine if the SEC would have wanted us? Nebraska in the SEC, probably would still be 0-6.
     
  6. Larry Hagman's Liver

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    New to the board today, huh? And this was your first post?

    Weird, most Husker fans are more confident when speaking about the Iowa teams we've historically owned. Guess you're just one of the meek ones, eh?
     
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    Well the Hawkeyes are certainly going in a different direction than GBR. Hopefully when you decide to keep a coach for more than 3 years you will stabilize your program and will get better. Changing coaches leaves the new coach with at least 3 years of recruits that may or may not match new style.
     
  8. headcard

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    Iowa isn't going in any direction, the same as always. Just because we suck right now doesn't somehow change what Iowa is.
     
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    Yeah, and that's what the University of Chicago says too.

    It's not back in the day, it's today. And today, Nebraska is 0-6.
     
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    Thanks for the update, glad you are around to reminded us, repeatedly.
     
  11. Madison6661

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    Do you think Nebraska could beat Iowa State this year?

    Kind of a conspiracy theorist, aren't ya?

    Unlike many around here, I try to look forward and not backward. As of today, it would be a tall, tall task for this team to beat any team in Iowa, except maybe UNI.
     
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    “ISU got dominated by Iowa” LOL.

    Neither team could do squat. ISU had the ball trailing 6-3 with 7 minutes left in the game. ISU didn’t get to play the previous week due to weather (same as Nebraska) and was making their debut against a stout Iowa defensive line. And they played the second half with the back up and now 3rd string QB.

    Kudos to Iowa for the win, but that was an even game all around and not one I would care to watch again as it was boring. And ISU and Iowa are both middle of the pack in their conferences.

    Maryland had a nice win over Texas and the Big 12 last place team beat the Big Tem last place team 55-7. I don’t get the pissing match. Big 12 and Big Ten are both solid conferences. I don’t get West Virginia, Rutgers, and Maryland being in this picture and I’m sad A&M, Colorado, and Missouri are out of the picture.

    Things were better before the change imo.
     
  14. hdhntr1

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    It was a money grab. Helped in some ways and hurt in others
     
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    Awww you're a precocious child. Sorry I don't hide the truth like you. You got bombed on your original comment because you are short sighted and have a low IQ. I can keep blasting you though if you have time to stop talking about kiddie porn - pervert
     
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    I seriously can't discern more than about 50% of your babble in any given post. You are a very strange person.
     
  17. hdhntr1

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    He does, with himself
     
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    It wasn't a money grab. It was making sure NU was in secure place when/if the Big 12 dissolved. We didn't leave a stable conference for another because there was more money waiting for us. We left a house built on shifting sands (at the time) because the B1G was the most (and probably only) appealing option we had available.
     
  19. hdhntr1

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    To tell the truth, BIG territory is not the greatest as far as talent. That would be TX, FL or CA
     
  20. Huskersgod

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    I have a feeling you "discerned" it just fine. You are a pervert man, get some help!
     
  21. Larry Hagman's Liver

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    So you're just going to parrot this weak pervert line over and over in every thread? I know you haven't fared very well thus far, but it that really what you're reduced to now?
     
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    Think you can tell by this you are not better off being in the big 12. There is TV revenue and a whole bunch of things to take into account beyond what the direct payments are from the big 10. If you can honestly look at that data and present a coherent argument for being in the big 12 and not being Oklahoma or Texas I would be shocked.
     
  23. Huskersgod

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    Ya probably, it seems to be accurate and bothering you. Laughing
     
  24. Larry Hagman's Liver

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    Keep telling yourself that.

    (Pats Huskersgod on the head for the 100th time)
     
  25. Huskersgod

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    Okay deal! Anorexically thin
     
  26. Madison6661

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    It's not an argument or a reason for being or not being in the Big 12. It is simply math. I have a lot of my friends say one of the reasons Nebraska left was for the money. If you read my earlier post I went year by year what Nebraska has got paid by the Big Ten and what Kansas State got paid by the Big 12 from 2011 to today. Wheather we like it or not Kansas State in the Big 12 has made 74 million dollars more than what the Big Ten conference has paid to Nebraska since 2011 to today. I totally agree that money is only one aspect of looking at the move and there are many positive points of being in the Big Ten.
     
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    Do you just mash the keyboard with your fists or are you actually trying to string sentences together? I honestly can't tell.
     
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    Laughing
     
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    I just proved to you that you that it is not the case when you include all factors. And also Nebraska is just now in 2018 a full share of the process so you should be ahead of maybe even Iowa (which you should be). Idk to think you would make more money in the big 12 is just asinine to me, you really can’t believe that. The payouts are only a small percentage of the equation. West Virginia is third in the big 12. Minnesota is ahead of them. I mean just look at the whole picture
     
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    We knew we weren't getting a full share when we joined the conference. As TO said at the time, it was a 100-year decision, not a 5- to 10-year decision. As of today, as a full member, NU easily makes more than it would have in the Big 12.

    I appreciate the time you took to crunch these numbers, but it really doesn't matter how much NU left on the table between 2010 and now. It was all so we could arrive at this point. And we're stone-cold raking it athletically and academically (billions through the CIC as mentioned above). Given the inept commissioner we had upon our exit from the B1G, we're very happy to have Delany at the negotiating table.

    To put it another way, do you think a doctor cares about the money they would have made during the years they were in medical school?
     
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    To put it another way, do you think a doctor cares about the money they would have made during the years they were in medical school?[/QUOTE]

    With today's medical school debt, it's certainly possible. :)
     
  32. Madison6661

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    I guess I am just an old fart but I just enjoyed the traditions and rivalries that we had in the Big 8 and the Big 12 that took 100 years to create. I am sure that in the next 100 years new rivalries will be established. No knock on the Big Ten but I just can't get excited about playing Iowa and Minnesota.
    I am sure that there are old fart Big Ten fans around that would prefer a round robin schedule with the original ten schools of the Big Ten rather than playing Rutgers, Maryland, or Nebraska. When I gathered the information for the numbers in my previous post it was only to show that more money was not reason that Nebraska left. In my opinion it is sad what is going on in college football. My wife went to an SEC school and loves college football. With a 14 team conference in the SEC their rivalries are also going away. I believe that Georgia will not even play at Alabama until 2025. This is just one example, such a shame. And our friends that are big SEC supporters can't stand Missouri in the conference. In their words they just "don't fit". I normally do not post and this will be my last. I would just like to wish Nebraska and the Big Ten the best over the next 100 years.
     
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    The (former) CIC does not distribute research grants from a pool of money. Rather, Big10 universities collectively participated in that amount of funding.

    The (former) CIC allows some really great opportunities for cooperative purchasing for discounts and things like library sharing but it amounts to zero financial interest for any member university as it pertains to grant award or research performed. You really should educate yourself on what the big 10 academic alliance is if you want to discuss it with others.
     
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    No need for leave. I appreciate the heartfelt sentiment. Was just responding to the financial side you presented. People also have their guard up, myself included, because there have been so many fake posts/posters lately. Peace.
     
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    You just put respect pretty much on post count in your explanation. I've been here longer than you think and quite familiar with this board, other boards, and boards in general. I'm also familiar with the posters here and the types who post endlessly on them. Some people post regularly while even more just sit back and observe. Doesn't make us any less of a member, were just not into a lot of the trivial BS that goes on which has nothing whatsoever to do with the Huskers.

    I personally observe more than I post for one simple reason, to see what's happening with my Huskers. I haven't been in Nebraska since the 80's, but I can log into the boards anywhere in the world and get a general idea of what the people are saying compared to what's in the news. As for respect, sorry, I hold that for a hire level than the Husker board, but hey, that's just me.

    Sorry for offending your friend, I believe that's what this boils down to anyway. Doesn't change the fact he was ranting and raving and being irrational 6 games in with a new coaching staff, gutted team (-20), freshman quarterback, walk-on backup, no punter, hardest Big 10 schedule, and more. I believe we need to sit back, keep our mouths shut (finger relaxed) and let this new adventure play itself out. You and your likes feel the need to fan the fire and rile the troops.

    I'll try and devote more time to posting in hopes of raising my post count! My goal will be to earn your respect, thus allowing me the rights in your eyes to say something! Hold your breath while waiting!

    Say whatever you like, I'm done with this thread and won't be back to it.
     
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