OK all you wanna be athletic directors poster peeps, if you fire Miles who are you going to bring in that is better, yes he has only gotten us to the dance 1 time, true he is a 500 coach in the big and yes his record speaks for itself but who are you going to bring in to rectify the program, we aren't exactly the richest in basketball tradition other then NIT's. I think he does a great job with the talent that he gets but fire him and bring in who, the door isn't exactly being knocked down by the Shaka Smarts, Selfs, Williams and Altmans of the coaching ranks. think about it, we bring in mid major coaches to win on a bigger stage every time we hire a new coach. insanity.
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Ahh. I missed these types of posts so much.
And Miles is the master of 14/18 W/L seasons and got to 22 because of a soft schedule.
Was that your point in this post? I’m confused.
A vaild point remains that it is much easier to suggest getting rid of something or someone without suggesting a realistic replacement for said policy or person. So the question will always be, do you stay the course and hope to build something or do you roll the dice yet again and hope to win the coaching lottery? Last time I looked, there aren't any Scott Frosts out there willing to come back to NU to coach us to basketball glory. And I don't know how long is long enough for Miles or anybody else to win consistently at NU.
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You are right. Should quit trying to improve our lot. Should have folded the program instead of building some of the best facilities in the world
You seem to be confused quite a bit lately.
My point was Sadler sucked. That's why I responded to the guy promoting Sadler's ability to gouge out .500 seasons. Period. He built his career on coming in and taking over somebody else's recruits then leaving town before he had to rely on his own. Maybe that makes him a better coach than the guys he replaced, but his game day coaching just made me cringe. Nobody can try to tell me that Sadler was a better recruiter than Miles. Sadler managed to ugly up games enough to steal some wins but good Lord I never want to see that style of basketball at NU again. It was BRUTAL.
How can you so easily see the writing on the wall for Sadler, but fail so missrably to see it with Miles?You seem to be confused quite a bit lately.
You seem to be confused quite a bit lately.
He won games, more than Miles. But because you didn’t like the style of play, then they somehow mean less?
I'm not saying we shouldn't but you can't fire Miles after the season he just had. I know you hate Miles and you've been consistent in that but there's no way you fire a guy who just had one of the best seasons in Husker history. I don't like some of the things he's done, but IMO the jury is still out on whether or not he can win consistently here. Additionally, what are the odds of getting a guy to replace him who can do better? 1 in 5? 1 in 10? How many times do you roll the dice and how many years do you give each guy? So what you're left with is bitching about a guy who just won 20+ wins at NU. So basically it's just bitching not improving our lot. IF we lay an egg next year Miles will be gone. I suspect Palmer will leave for the pros and that will be the end of it.
Doc wasn't able to recruit a single NBA type talent in 7 years. Not one. Miles has brought multiple guys like that to NU. Granted they were all transfers but he got them here. My biggest thing is I love the game of basketball. . Played pick up ball 3 times a week for several decades with guys who were NBA draft picks and played professionally in the NBA, Europe and Australia until my joints gave out. Sadler's style of ball wasn't basketball it was just a back alley brawl. I love seeing guys with the kind of skills that Palmer, Roby, Copeland and Thomas Allen have. Yeah, Allen. He's got such a pure stroke. I don't like the offense Miles runs but at least I get to see guys play basketball that have basketball talent. Watching Sadler's offenses were like slamming your fingers in a car door then repeating it every 25 seconds. BTW, Doc's highest finish in Conference USA is 9th so far.....
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I don't hate Miles. Results are Black and White. Every year is his "most talented roster". Every year a bunch of them leave. I wouldn't fire him after this year, but the excuse train is running out of track. Let's see what happens to his roster.
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Allen needs to improve..... a whole bunch to sniff increased minutes in major conference basketball.
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Tim's offense is the EXACT same "motion" set Doc ran. All based on what Kansas does. A smart coach would realize that since "we can't get those kind of players", they would run other stuff. McDermott and every other coach consistently beat him because he is either not smart enough to put other stuff in, or too stubborn. Either way it's dumb
I agree. I think he did play better D as the year went on but he has definite potential. He probably would have red shirted had he taken the KU offer. Barring something unforseen, he'll step in to Gill's role next year IMO. I think he can be an upper teens scorer eventually.
Yeah I know but it all starts with your point guard regardless and when we've struggled this year IMO, it's been because of Glynn getting manhandled making it tough for us to get in to our offense. Copeland is not a particularly strong guy either. Taylor has the kind of physicality we need from our guards to compete with some of the banging that goes on in the B1G. I'm not sure that I'm sold yet that "we can't get those kind of players at NU" or not. KU's big advantage is that not only can lots of their kids shoot, but they also can play physical in your face D. Against Michigan, we lost because we didn't play good enough D and we couldn't make a 3 to save our life. They on the other hand shot over 50% from 3.
If I remember correctly, the second after SE said Miles wasn't fired the second after last season ended, the mantra was "Dance or Fired" in 2018. Then Jacobson and Morrow left, but nobody was worried because they were terrible anyway and we had NBA-caliber transfers coming in. Then Copeland gets immediate eligibility this summer and that was going to be the greatest thing ever. Then we get picked 13th in the B1G and suddenly the apologists say "we're going to suck so we can't expect to be any good!" Then we actually have a decent/good season and self-destruct at the conference tournament, and now the team has actually overachieved because they were supposed to suck. If Copeland and Palmer leave, 2019 is wash, rinse and repeat and we're "young" and starting over. At some point we can't keep moving Miles' goalposts.
I agree with you that no coach in his sixth season deserves strokes for finishing higher than 13th in a 14-team league. When some people here suggest otherwise, they're making a better argument for dumping the guy who was picked to finish 13th than they are for keeping him.
But I also don't see Moos canning a basketball coach whose team finished the regular season 9-1 and finished 4th in the Big Ten. Just not gonna happen.
Jacobsen at Northern Iowa is a really good coach and with the FBI probe you gotta think there were a few great coaches that didnt know what was going on that we could sweep up. If Moos track record points to anything its that he will hire a power 5 or FBS coach that has won in the Big Dance before
I wasn't promoting Sadler I was comparing your buddy Miles record to Doc who we can all agree was terrible. 6 years in and Miles has 2 months of good basketball, both times he rode hotstreaks of Terran and JPJ. Hoping your best player gets hot and carries you to the dance isnt a sustainable way to win. Over 6 years Tim has shown an inability to recruit guys that can win the B1G he recruits kids that are undersized for this league and when push come to shove they leave the program. Out of his best recruiting class Watson is the only starter and has proven over the course of this season he's average at best. Morrow and Jacobsen are gone and McVeigh has played 5 minutes all year. We have enough of a sample size now to know what Timmy is, he can't coach at this level. If you were to ask anyone 6 years ago if they would take 2 winning seasons out of 6 with 2 months of good basketball during that stretch would they say that has been a success?You seem to be confused quite a bit lately.
Unless Allen grows about 3 inches in height and wingspan he'll be nothing more than a 3 point specialist who is a defensive liability.
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I think it's going to be really hard to have Watson and Allen on floor at the same time, because they make for a really undersized backcourt. If Xavier Johnson can run the point, that might allow Allen to get more minutes.
Wichita State has had a history of being a winning program. Not a reasonable team to compare to. Also spent most of their life in the Valley before moving up this past year.
Not quite in full (McVeigh is gone), but the key pieces are back.
People on here projected several players to bolt and were wrong. It doesn’t matter. I hope at this point everyone can get behind this team and stop with the “well he’s gotta win in the tourney or he’s gone” sentiment.
It just comes from a place of negativity. Let the Athletic Director worry about that. Be excited about great potential.
I am surprised that Nana and Jordy are returning. They did not seem all that happy here last year. We need Nana to step up this year after losing Taylor and Gill. He has the size and athleticism, but didn't get any playing time last year.
I was the leader of this pack. Glad I was wrong. Still in shock, but glad in hopes this team will produce something next year.
I can't recall where I read it, but I'm pretty sure I saw something where Nana did not say he was upset by the lack of playing time. He saw what it took to be on the court and looked at it as a goal and a lesson in what he needs to do to get out there. Jordy certainly had some angst, but seemingly has worked that out. I wish Jordy could contribute, but I'm going to keep my optimism in check there.
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