Was music to my ears as I drove to golf course..
Don’t expect great improvement for the first game but it sure as hell can’t get any worse..
Don’t expect great improvement for the first game but it sure as hell can’t get any worse..
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Well yeah it can’t probably get worse than the IU game but Satt called a better game against OSU. It could be a real train wreck this Saturday.
Huskers site says he's the OC.
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Satterfield is gone and virtually everybody connected to the program was surprised that Dana was named OC so quickly. Satt is a dead man walking.Huskers site says he's the OC.University of Nebraska - Official Athletics Website
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I dunno.. I guess we will see what ends up being permanent and what doesn't. We know what will happen for the next 3 games, but after that, I don't know that anything has been finalized
Anyone thinking that we will see any immediate improvement is fooling themselves. USC might struggle early as offensive tendencies will now be broken. But the jimmys and joes are the same so likely by half we will be back on the struggle bus. Maybe it will be enough to help us eek out a win, but I doubt it.
I think we do have talent.. we might struggle for the first half, but I'm actually expecting the offense to freaking come alive.
If Satterfield was truly incompetent you’ll find out pretty quick Saturday. If we’re still struggling then Rhule will have to take an even deeper look into his operation.
I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment. How many times over the last decade have you/us fallen into that trap? We are who we know we are....... Dysfunctional! And that's putting it lightly.
No way does a coach come in during game week, take over the OC without knowing personnel and the schematics of what's been practiced for 2 years, and suddenly turn this team into a respectable offense. NO WAY!
I think we will find out both. Satterfield sucked and our program is/has been in shambles for decades. We are a fragile shell of mediocrity.
Our OL will still suck and our WRs will still not block, etc etc etc
DH probably won’t be a miracle worker, but he might be better navigating around our numerous flaws.
DH probably won’t be a miracle worker, but he might be better navigating around our numerous flaws.
This could be..... Maybe...Just maybe, we will find a few things that work, and gulp!!!!!! keep doing them! That would be worth the 1.4M that we are wasting on Satterfield right?
If we run 60 offensive plays a game, and 6 of those are non-productive jet sweeps and lateral passes to Fidone while eliminating, we eliminate 10% of the offensive woes in one swipe. That gives NU 6 alternative plays that may be productive.
Maybe we even put the QB under center on 3rd short instead of the shotguy. Revelation.
How about play action off that formation, I believe that's been done before in the game of football. There is so much shit in this offense to be cleaned up.
DH to WR coach Maguire. "Tell your WR's the first time I see them half-assing or dogging their routes, I'm parking their ass on the bench. First time I see them not make a block that has to be made to make a play go, or not giving a maximum effort, I'm parking their ass on the bench. Think you can give them that message?"
"This is my expectation and the accountability Coach Rhule talks about and what we're always talking about. It starts today. If my fingerprints are on this offense, that's how it's gonna be."
You don't have to be a prick to be a good coach, you just gotta tell 'em how it is.
Remember, we lost the ILL game on 1 bad throw from DR. The offense put us in position to win on a FG, but the dude missed it. They also had a wide open Barney (or Neyor or Banks, cant remember) that DR underthrew to win the OSU game. DR threw a pick 6 that basically lost us the UCLA game.
3 plays. Im exaggerating slightly, but you get the point.
So, a guy coming in that maybe calls a couple things differently could be all that is needed. Shit, even Satt had the right plays in each of those scenarios. We just failed to close them out.
As bad as our offense is statistically, it still can win us games.
Will it? no idea. I have my doubts, but we just need a little more and we win these games. Its maddening.
3 plays. Im exaggerating slightly, but you get the point.
So, a guy coming in that maybe calls a couple things differently could be all that is needed. Shit, even Satt had the right plays in each of those scenarios. We just failed to close them out.
As bad as our offense is statistically, it still can win us games.
Will it? no idea. I have my doubts, but we just need a little more and we win these games. Its maddening.
It's a tall order given our talent, but never underestimate the ability of a creative, experienced playcaller to set the defense up 4-5 times a game.
I would almost bet they will take Fidone or one of the TE's in the slot and hit him uncovered on the opposite hash mark. Those are the type of plays that have been missing for 1 3/4 years.
There could be a sense of excitement by the offensive team if they see some creative stuff that catches the defense off guard in practice. If they don't seem interested in new things, they could examine their feelings on the bench.
We all expect some busts on some plays, that's gonna happen to the best of teams. But, we also should hope that the new blood on offense can somehow energize an otherwise dead offense. If the defense could rise up and play lights out, who's to say the Huskers can't eke out a win?
I don't expect a win, but at least I feel we have some hope. With the mid week turmoil, we can only hope, I've used that word hope 4 times now. An unexpectant win could easily propel NU to a win next week then NU could be looking at 7-4 heading into Iowa. That would be a great turnaround.
plenty of precedent for a new coach dead cat bounce
just look at the Saints 2 days ago
I don't watch the NFL, but the NU offense has been dead in the water for weeks now.
It's obvious the BIG defenses have "the book" on the Satt offense.
DH's background as a play caller, he will, as Hayden Fry used to say, "scratch where it itches."
A modern version was TO's unspoken,
"If you can't stop it, we're gonna run it til the cows come home."
And you don't just talk about it, you do it.
One huge thing I notice from DH’s history.. he had better numbers when just an OC and not the HC as well.
Maybe that’s his niche, running the O.
We shall see. I know he will probably pick out the plays he likes from the current offense but I bet they installed a handful of his mesh plays that he loves. With Barney and Lloyd, those will work great.
Maybe that’s his niche, running the O.
We shall see. I know he will probably pick out the plays he likes from the current offense but I bet they installed a handful of his mesh plays that he loves. With Barney and Lloyd, those will work great.
Here is a hypothetical..
Let's say the offense comes alive (which I fully expect to happen) and we finish the remaining 3 games, 3-0
Do you setup a meeting with DH and attempt to slide him into the head coaches office while handing Rhule a pink slip?
I am assuming DH is here for just 3 games only, and if he fixes things and then leaves, where does that leave the program and Rhule and Satt?
Let's say the offense comes alive (which I fully expect to happen) and we finish the remaining 3 games, 3-0
Do you setup a meeting with DH and attempt to slide him into the head coaches office while handing Rhule a pink slip?
I am assuming DH is here for just 3 games only, and if he fixes things and then leaves, where does that leave the program and Rhule and Satt?
Love the dead cat bounce reference.
Well done.
I'm not sure MR is there yet but he is deffinately trending there. Amazing how losing 3 of 5 and 2 in a row changes the outlook.
The thing is that this will make or break his time here. A turnaround and we go back to expecting to beat UCLA, Ill, and the rest of the not top 4 BIG. Thinking we can compete with the top tier. Hope going in to next year.
Don't turn the season around and as fans we become more apathetic and wait for the next coaching change.
No, because I doubt that the AD wants to pay a massive buyout. I could see a contingency plan put in DH’s contract if he were to stay on for the foreseeable future.
Zero chance all of that happens. Zilch. Nada.
I do wonder what the plan is for DH long term, though. If there even is one. No clue if he really just wants to be an OC or if he wants to head coach again. If he does want to OC, would he really want to do it at NU? Would HCMR really want that as our offense moving forward? If we are replacing our OC for next year (we are), is DH the best we can get? Or was he just the best available at the time (I think he was). Tons of variables.
Has anyone heard what DH is getting paid for these 3 games? If I were a betting man, I assume it is way above market as we are pretty desperate. He already had a gig at TCU, and assumably he was still getting paid some kind of buyout by Houston which probably went away if he took another job depending on the level, so have to assume it was a lot more than that for him to want to mess with it. I'd guess if all that's the case, he says thanks for the pile of cash for 3 games...good luck to y'all...and moves on.
No.
The obvious argument would be that Rhule had simply made a mistake by earlier hiring an OC that was subpar. NO WAY is Rhule going anywhere for a few years, the money, the money.
As a betting man, I see very little chance NU finishes 3-0.
Hard to imagine NU being able to play winning football for 12 quarters.
Possible, but not likely.
You never disappoint with your “interesting” takes. Holgerson was mediocre at running a program and failed miserably his last year at Houston. So you want to pay out 50 million to Rhule to go away and hire a guy probably best suited to be an OC and not a head coach? Rhule isn’t going anywhere for a long time. He likely gets a minimum of 2 more years unless next year is a complete disaster. Trev tied our hands with that 8 year contract @ 8M per.
I have no idea what he is getting paid, but I doubt it’s much given his buyout from Houston. In fact if he stays on he could end up getting paid less than Satterfield.
Likely a deal similar to MR. Low money while buyout is in play and backloaded contract.
We could pay him what Satt is getting per game and it would be a drop in the bucket compared to what not making a change would cost us. Those empty seats last game cost tens of thousands of dollars in concession sales. There was lots of room in my row.
Wasn't there some friction between Holgersen and the head coach when Holgersen was the OC at West Virginia? Hopefully that won't happen here if Holgersen is the OC next year.
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Hope Holgerson stays on as OC, that’s his best calling.
As for money, I don’t know why everyone keeps bringing it up. It is irrelevant, completely.
He gets paid millions per year by Houston for 4 more years, but another salary offsets part of what they pay. So regardless of what we pay him, he will get 3-4 million for the next 4 years.
We’d be stupid to pay him the big bucks when Houston is already doing that.
They did not give DH a one time lump sum buyout. They are paying him over 4 years
As for money, I don’t know why everyone keeps bringing it up. It is irrelevant, completely.
He gets paid millions per year by Houston for 4 more years, but another salary offsets part of what they pay. So regardless of what we pay him, he will get 3-4 million for the next 4 years.
We’d be stupid to pay him the big bucks when Houston is already doing that.
They did not give DH a one time lump sum buyout. They are paying him over 4 years
Those plays drive me crazy. However, in his defense, the WRs couldn't make a block in a Lego factory. If Dana can find a way to get the wideouts to block effectively then he is the best hire in the history of offensive football.
There was, but that's because the AD publicly announced DH as the HC in waiting so their then current HC paid reporters to dig up info on DH and start a smear campaign.
Oh we could pay him even more that’s not an issue. I don’t know the specifics of his buyout clause, and would it be in his best interest to take a 7 figure salary.
Not having seen his contract, you might be over-simplifying things. Or maybe you've read his contract and it's as simple as what you say. I think head coaching buyouts often have some language that negates some of the buyout amount if they take another job. I don't think it's necessarily always "guaranteed money" which is why a lot of these guys go the consulting route. I think it's usually a money play, in order to get what they've got coming from the school that just fired them. Something about a consultant or analyst position doesn't legally count toward it. Lots of different ways these things can be structured, but I wouldn't necessarily assume the money aspect is completely irrelevant
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