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Great to see someone gets it and that after 3 years there should be some improvement.

Andersen (Sept. 20): “I hired the wrong (expletive) guys and are still working our way through a bunch of recruiting years that stunk!! It’s year three! If these (expletives) can’t get it right I will not just say fire them and start over!! That’s not the way to go about it. If I (expletive) it up that bad I will take the bullet and ride off into the sunset! I will stay old school!! I will not die doing this"

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texts-reporter-show-gary-andersen-unhappy-assistants-205132920.html
 
JohnRossEwing said:
Yeah, he is. Guy is burnt out. I said this before but more and more of these guys are going to start "retiring" sooner and sooner.
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When you're banking a couple of million per year after living meagerly for a decade or two, you suddenly realize that you have more money than you ever could have imagined, you're getting older and there are still mountains to hike and golf courses you haven't played. It baffles me that Saban in still coaching. When is enough enough. He could quit today and still be considered one of the greatest college coaches of all time.
 
dinglefritz said:
When you're banking a couple of million per year after living meagerly for a decade or two, you suddenly realize that you have more money than you ever could have imagined, you're getting older and there are still mountains to hike and golf courses you haven't played. It baffles me that Saban in still coaching. When is enough enough. He could quit today and still be considered one of the greatest college coaches of all time.
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I agree...I really think we will see this trend. Coaching doing 5-10 years as a HC and then leaving.
 
JohnRossEwing said:
I agree...I really think we will see this trend. Coaching doing 5-10 years as a HC and then leaving.
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Maybe. There are still going to be guys like Saban who want their statue on the front of a stadium as the best ever though. Personally I don't get it but whatever trips their trigger. Give me a successful career and enough money to take care of me in retirement while I do something fun (work wise) with low stress and I'm good. I guess some of these guys do really enjoy the pressure but man.
 
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dinglefritz said:
Maybe. There are still going to be guys like Saban who want their statue on the front of a stadium as the best ever though. Personally I don't get it but whatever trips their trigger. Give me a successful career and enough money to take care of me in retirement while I do something fun (work wise) with low stress and I'm good. I guess some of these guys do really enjoy the pressure but man.
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With the way coaching salaries have grown there is plenty of money to retire early. Tom Osborne's first head coach contract gave him $25,000 per year. He needed to keep coaching well beyond the ten year mark.
 
dinglefritz said:
Maybe. There are still going to be guys like Saban who want their statue on the front of a stadium as the best ever though. Personally I don't get it but whatever trips their trigger. Give me a successful career and enough money to take care of me in retirement while I do something fun (work wise) with low stress and I'm good. I guess some of these guys do really enjoy the pressure but man.
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What some of these guys like Saban enjoy is the ego boost, the limelight, the celebrity status, being the toast of the town. They don't retire because they want to keep the fun times rolling. You can only play so much golf before you miss the adrenaline rush of 90,000 crazed idolaters going berserk when you run on the field.
 
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The very thing that makes these guys great coaches is the reason they don't shut it off after 10 years...great coaches tend to be very focused and drive, type A personalities. They don't aspire to 'retire' or 'take it easy', they can't really do anything else. I think sometimes the great coaches very existence relies on being in that type of position, if they don't have it, they would lose their mind. Same goes for CEO-types, very driven, could easily retire after 5 years in their capacity, not many do, it's just who they are....
 
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Chief Wiggum said:
The very thing that makes these guys great coaches is the reason they don't shut it off after 10 years...great coaches tend to be very focused and drive, type A personalities. They don't aspire to 'retire' or 'take it easy', they can't really do anything else. I think sometimes the great coaches very existence relies on being in that type of position, if they don't have it, they would lose their mind. Same goes for CEO-types, very driven, could easily retire after 5 years in their capacity, not many do, it's just who they are....
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I both envy and pity guys like George Burns or Warren Buffet who enjoy what they do so much, they cannot relax after awhile and stop doing it.
 
JohnRossEwing said:
Yeah, he is. Guy is burnt out. I said this before but more and more of these guys are going to start "retiring" sooner and sooner.
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yep. and not that stoops is a spring chicken, but he finally said 'expletive it' and went home to sit on a pile and i mean a pile of cash...anymore coaching gigs are like the lottery.

again, we should all be so lucky.
 
Chief Wiggum said:
The very thing that makes these guys great coaches is the reason they don't shut it off after 10 years...great coaches tend to be very focused and drive, type A personalities. They don't aspire to 'retire' or 'take it easy', they can't really do anything else. I think sometimes the great coaches very existence relies on being in that type of position, if they don't have it, they would lose their mind. Same goes for CEO-types, very driven, could easily retire after 5 years in their capacity, not many do, it's just who they are....
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Spend some time with coaches at about any level. They are generally very intense people. They live for competition at all levels - recruiting, development, practice, and of course the game day. They live for trying to out coach the next guy. The love and I mean LOVE the male bonding, friendships, common goal kind of thing. They could sleep on a pile of sweaty football clothes every night. The live with game film on their TV and in constant pause mode. The really good ones thrive on the recruiting process to sell the student/athlete on what they have to offer. The like to get to know the kids and families and watch young men grow up. That is what they know and what they do and how they are wired. It is not a marvel that there are really only a handful (maybe even a small handful) that are truly the top of the heap that everyone would want.

That is why I chuckle when I constantly see the "open the checkbook" and get the top level guys to Lincoln. There are so few of them.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
What would Urban say about that?

Considering 74 of the 85 scholarship players were signed by Andersen, I am assuming he is talking about his and his staff's recruiting?
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Nobody touching this comment, or the other thread. Weird how certain people go straight in to hibernation when facts are presented.
 
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spinner4 said:
Great to see someone gets it and that after 3 years there should be some improvement.

Andersen (Sept. 20): “I hired the wrong (expletive) guys and are still working our way through a bunch of recruiting years that stunk!! It’s year three! If these (expletives) can’t get it right I will not just say fire them and start over!! That’s not the way to go about it. If I (expletive) it up that bad I will take the bullet and ride off into the sunset! I will stay old school!! I will not die doing this"

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texts-reporter-show-gary-andersen-unhappy-assistants-205132920.html
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If by "quitting and blaming others" means getting it... then yes.
 
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dinglefritz said:
When you're banking a couple of million per year after living meagerly for a decade or two, you suddenly realize that you have more money than you ever could have imagined, you're getting older and there are still mountains to hike and golf courses you haven't played. It baffles me that Saban in still coaching. When is enough enough. He could quit today and still be considered one of the greatest college coaches of all time.
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Same reason a lot of guys won't retire in any field. It's his identity and would be bored without it maybe?
He could get a department job but he'd lose his mind if he wasn't runnin the show on the field.
Hope this isn't me at that age and I can retire happily
 
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coachDubs said:
Nobody touching this comment, or the other thread. Weird how certain people go straight in to hibernation when facts are presented.
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There are only 11 guys that Riley recruited still on scholarship? Wow, that is fascinating.
 
TruHusker said:
Spend some time with coaches at about any level. They are generally very intense people. They live for competition at all levels - recruiting, development, practice, and of course the game day. They live for trying to out coach the next guy. The love and I mean LOVE the male bonding, friendships, common goal kind of thing. They could sleep on a pile of sweaty football clothes every night. The live with game film on their TV and in constant pause mode. The really good ones thrive on the recruiting process to sell the student/athlete on what they have to offer. The like to get to know the kids and families and watch young men grow up. That is what they know and what they do and how they are wired. It is not a marvel that there are really only a handful (maybe even a small handful) that are truly the top of the heap that everyone would want.

That is why I chuckle when I constantly see the "open the checkbook" and get the top level guys to Lincoln. There are so few of them.
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I was that way about some things too....up until I hit about 50....then not so much. Low T anybody?:oops:
 
Phillipe said:
There are only 11 guys that Riley recruited still on scholarship? Wow, that is fascinating.
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Why? Andersen went scorched earth, changed they offense immediately started a true freshman QB his first year and ran off a bunch of players that were there under Riley that didn't fit what he wanted to do.

Tell you what, I'll revise the numbers and move players that committed to Riley before December 2014 into the Riley column.

6 players from the 2015 class had committed to Riley before he left.

2015 23-6 = 17
2016 - 26
2017 - 25

So of the 85 scholarship players, 68 were directly signed by Andersen and his coaches.
 
TruHusker said:
Spend some time with coaches at about any level. They are generally very intense people. They live for competition at all levels - recruiting, development, practice, and of course the game day. They live for trying to out coach the next guy. The love and I mean LOVE the male bonding, friendships, common goal kind of thing. They could sleep on a pile of sweaty football clothes every night. The live with game film on their TV and in constant pause mode. The really good ones thrive on the recruiting process to sell the student/athlete on what they have to offer. The like to get to know the kids and families and watch young men grow up. That is what they know and what they do and how they are wired. It is not a marvel that there are really only a handful (maybe even a small handful) that are truly the top of the heap that everyone would want.

That is why I chuckle when I constantly see the "open the checkbook" and get the top level guys to Lincoln. There are so few of them.
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You are absolutely correct on the money and top level head coaches, however I believe the whole coaching structure will change with the money available. Think NFL and a GM hiring a head coach but also controlling in large part who the assistants are. Why is it written in stone that a college coach gets to hire whoever he wants. I say open the checkbook for assistant coaches, the hiring process should be a joint decision from the head coach and our now defacto GM
 
SnohomishRed said:
You are absolutely correct on the money and top level head coaches, however I believe the whole coaching structure will change with the money available. Think NFL and a GM hiring a head coach but also controlling in large part who the assistants are. Why is it written in stone that a college coach gets to hire whoever he wants. I say open the checkbook for assistant coaches, the hiring process should be a joint decision from the head coach and our now defacto GM
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The checkbook! Open it up!








Where's my SF lotion?
 
Toms Wife said:
With the way coaching salaries have grown there is plenty of money to retire early. Tom Osborne's first head coach contract gave him $25,000 per year. He needed to keep coaching well beyond the ten year mark.
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What year? And correlate inflation please...
No matter what you do, you won't keep up with the times unless your money is properly invested.

Many, many people have market ventures outside of football to manage and gain capital without coaching another day in your life.

If you are smart, you take your platform and publicity and do something with it.

Ie. Retiring for a "political career"
 
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DanksaurusRex420 said:
What year? And correlate inflation please...
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Osborne had a five year contract at 25k starting in 1973. That correlates to $142,018 in today's dollars.

In 1983, the year he went for two, Osborne had a four year contract that paid him 58,500. That equaled 146,710. After ten years of decent success Osborne was still making about the same money as when he started.

Today Riley makes 20x more money in today's dollars than Osborne made. Nick Saban makes over 50x more than Osborne made.
 
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Wisconsin got so damn lucky when that guy quit and went to OSU. You could feel Wiscy slipping under his regime and they had PC just waiting to come home.
 
Tuco Salamanca said:
What would Urban say about that?

Considering 74 of the 85 scholarship players were signed by Andersen, I am assuming he is talking about his and his staff's recruiting?
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Your right, Urban got the job done in year 3. Came in to tOSU and won a title his 3rd year with basically most of his own recruits, mainly full of his great first year class (2012) and even better second year class (2013). So yes, it can be done in 3 years. However, I would not hold anyone to that standard. Not even Mike.

Urban also had an advantage in his first class. He was basically hired in Nov of 2011 and spent all his time recruiting. Even if it was "unofficial"
 
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