ESPN predicts 4-4 record

oldjar07

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I'd be disappointed with 4-4 even though it's likely going to be that or worse. 5-3 and I think you can point to progress. 4-4 I don't think you can.
 

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2017 — 3-6 vs. conference, 2-4 vs. division
2018 — 3-6 conference, 2-4 division
2019 — 3-6 conference, 2-4 division

4-4 with a chance at 5-4 probably also means either 3-3 or 4-2 vs. the division. That's a step in the right direction, even if it's a small step.
 
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NikkiSixx

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This season counts. No asterisk. It's Frost 3rd year. Every other team out there had to deal with similar crap from covid.

He has to start showing some improvement.

I'm not going to give him a pass because the schedule is different or whatever other excuse some of you want to embrace.

He's being paid big money, so I'm expecting big results.
 

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Frost and most every other coach in the country will get a free pass this year regardless of record. They won’t actually count his “year three” until next year. That said, a 4-4 record for this year and this schedule would be ok.
 

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Record aside, I just want us to get through the first 4 games without any signs of the team checking out or waving the white flag. Like the Minny game last year. If we're not competitive or lay down at any point I'm not sure we'll win 3 this year.
 

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I’m with you on the offense and I think we will be vastly improved on special teams. However, I’m pretty skeptical we see improvement on the defensive side.
Yes, that is probably the main problem for us this year. Special teams have nowhere to go but up for us. An a almost certainly improved OLine should be a huge, HUGE factor offensively.

Defensively, who knows? I like Chins and we'll just hope for the best. :)
 
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I'd be disappointed with 4-4 even though it's likely going to be that or worse. 5-3 and I think you can point to progress. 4-4 I don't think you can.

By the metrics of the FPI, and their 4-4 record, that would've been a 8-4 to 9-3 finish vs. the original schedule. You absolutely can point to progress with a 4-4 record.
 

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By the metrics of the FPI, and their 4-4 record, that would've been a 8-4 to 9-3 finish vs. the original schedule. You absolutely can point to progress with a 4-4 record.
forgive me but how can 4-4 turn into a 9-3 finish “vs the original schedule” when all 8 teams that resulted in 4-4 were on the original schedule?
 
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forgive me but how can 4-4 turn into a 9-3 finish “vs the original schedule” when all 8 teams that resulted in 4-4 were on the original schedule?
non-conference would have represented either 3 - 1 or 4-0 in addition to the 4-4 conference schedule.

7-5 or 8-4 would be the likely outcome if they kept their non-conference games.
 

jlb321

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non-conference would have represented either 3 - 1 or 4-0 in addition to the 4-4 conference schedule.

7-5 or 8-4 would be the likely outcome if they kept their non-conference games.
yes ... I’m wondering how 9-3 crept in there
 

bshirt73

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4-4 in the conference would be a let down to this Husker fan.

let's go win, starting on saturday. losses to lesser programs (iowa, mn, purdue, etc.) can no longer be excused for any reason.
C'mon Rambo, you're way sharper than that. HCSF took over a total & complete train-wreck via Smiling Mike & Clownahan. Hang in there partner.....we'll get there.
 

John_J_Rambo

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C'mon Rambo, you're way sharper than that. HCSF took over a total & complete train-wreck via Smiling Mike & Clownahan. Hang in there partner.....we'll get there.
I consider iowa, purdue, nw, illinois, mn, indiana, cu to be complete and total dumpster fires for their entire history. losing to them under any circumstance should be unacceptable.

it's time.
 

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Frost and most every other coach in the country will get a free pass this year regardless of record. They won’t actually count his “year three” until next year. That said, a 4-4 record for this year and this schedule would be ok.
I have heard that but I don’t see any sure wins on our schedule other than perhaps Illinois. Would 1-7 or 0-8 still merit a free pass? I can’t imagine that happening but this might be the toughest schedule ever. The conference schedule is exceptionally tough and we don’t have our usual two or three easy NC games to build momentum.
 
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Sign me up for 5-3 or 6-2 and a chance to pad it in the crossover championship game and bowl game....
that’s what I been guessing too. 5-3 with 4-4 being basement and 6-2 being the ceiling.

I truly expect a Top 25 range offense (or better) and a defense that should improve from last year (sorry, the defense is hard to gauge or guess at). So we could be fairly good this year...but I’m taking a wait and see approach this time.
 
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HuskerNorm

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If we go 4-4 in our 8 scheduled games, the way we do in the crossover game and bowl game will determine the success of the season in my eyes. 6-4 is totally acceptable 4-6 not so much.
 
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that’s what I been guessing too. 5-3 with 4-4 being basement and 6-2 being the ceiling.

I truly expect a Top 25 range offense (or better) and a defense that should improve from last year (sorry, the defense is hard to gauge or guess at). So we could be fairly good this year...but I’m taking a wait and see approach this time.
Agree totally on all that...
 

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If we go 4-4 in our 8 scheduled games, the way we do in the crossover game and bowl game will determine the success of the season in my eyes. 6-4 is totally acceptable 4-6 not so much.
Agree Norm we go 4-4 we should be able to pad that with crossover and bowl...
 
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By the metrics of the FPI, and their 4-4 record, that would've been a 8-4 to 9-3 finish vs. the original schedule. You absolutely can point to progress with a 4-4 record.
I don't really care. 4-4 is not a winning record. I want to at least see a winning record in year 3.
 
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I don't really care. 4-4 is not a winning record. I want to at least see a winning record in year 3.
You have to remember that there will be a 9th game played on December 19 depending where Nebraska stands in the West and don’t forget a bowl game in which you can play in with a losing record..6-4 would be a winning record winning the last 2 games..
 
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Frost and most every other coach in the country will get a free pass this year regardless of record. They won’t actually count his “year three” until next year. That said, a 4-4 record for this year and this schedule would be ok.
Tom Herman sure hopes you're right... lol
 

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If the B1G had played 10 games when they made the 2nd schedule I could see this season being the 3rd season under SF, but with only playing 8 and that isn’t even Guaranteed up to this point hard to consider this a full season..
 

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I have heard that but I don’t see any sure wins on our schedule other than perhaps Illinois. Would 1-7 or 0-8 still merit a free pass? I can’t imagine that happening but this might be the toughest schedule ever. The conference schedule is exceptionally tough and we don’t have our usual two or three easy NC games to build momentum.
I think 1-7 or 0-8, although neither is happening, would still get Frost another year. Just my opinion. The only exception being if he completely lost the locker room or had some type of scandal to go along with the poor record. Like making dudes run around with a trash can on their heads, or threatening to send them back to the ghetto. Something totally off the wall like that.
 

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I think 1-7 or 0-8, although neither is happening, would still get Frost another year. Just my opinion. The only exception being if he completely lost the locker room or had some type of scandal to go along with the poor record. Like making dudes run around with a trash can on their heads, or threatening to send them back to the ghetto. Something totally off the wall like that.
I think 1-7 is more likely than 4-4. 2-6 or 3-5 most realistic. Hopefully the goofs who write the big checks don't sour on Frost too soon. He's going to need time. The success at UCF was impressive, but he still has a lot of growing to do as a coach. There is a list a mile long of coaches who parlayed a couple of hot seasons at a mid-major and then failed to get it done at bigger schools. We need old school patience with the HC.
 

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I think 1-7 is more likely than 4-4. 2-6 or 3-5 most realistic. Hopefully the goofs who write the big checks don't sour on Frost too soon. He's going to need time. The success at UCF was impressive, but he still has a lot of growing to do as a coach. There is a list a mile long of coaches who parlayed a couple of hot seasons at a mid-major and then failed to get it done at bigger schools. We need old school patience with the HC.
 

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Ok ESPN hates farmers etc etc but if they are right is that ok for year 3 of this regime?
Not too hard to predict that given that 3 of the opponents are ranked high in the AP Top 25 and obviously way above an unranked Nebraska. You'd have to be illogical at the moment to say Nebraska was going to beat those teams. But we'll see. Beating any one those teams would be a such a HUGE upset.
 
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6-3 this year to just tie the ridiculously high mark for conference wins set by Mike Riley in his three illustrious years at Neb

to think in year 3 - 4 conference wins - a mere improvement of just a single conference win over Riley in 2017 would in any way be heralded as any type of achievement is truly remarkable
4 losses would put Frost to Pelini level success though. I think that would be good.
 
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Frost and most every other coach in the country will get a free pass this year regardless of record. They won’t actually count his “year three” until next year. That said, a 4-4 record for this year and this schedule would be ok.
No - every coach won’t get a free pass - the NFL has already fired coaches
 
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I hope you are right. However, seems to me like Husker hard-ons have been divorced from reality for several years now. The 90s are harder for some fans to shake than THE COVID is for those poor bastard LONG HAUL survivors. Those days have galloped over the hills like horses on fire brother. Its a new reality. For example, both the OWH and Journal Star ran stories last August about the huge influx of bets on BIG RED to win the National Championship at the newly minted sportsbooks over in CB last August. Taking the UNDER on the Vegas season win line has been the way to bet GBR for many seasons. Considering the difficult schedule, not inclined to change this year.
 

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2017 — 3-6 vs. conference, 2-4 vs. division
2018 — 3-6 conference, 2-4 division
2019 — 3-6 conference, 2-4 division

4-4 with a chance at 5-4 probably also means either 3-3 or 4-2 vs. the division. That's a step in the right direction, even if it's a small step.
Cant argue with this. Lets look at our divisional record first. Once we start to consistantly challenge for the top there we can consider the other side.
 

John_J_Rambo

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I'm sure Iowa and mn don't consider themselves lesser teams. Maybe 20 years ago....
well, yea, iowa considers itself a powerhouse and if mn had fans I'm sure they'd say the same.

the fact remains both programs are afterthoughts nationally, even in the best of years. we should almost never lose to either.
 

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well, yea, iowa considers itself a powerhouse and if mn had fans I'm sure they'd say the same.

the fact remains both programs are afterthoughts nationally, even in the best of years. we should almost never lose to either.
Right now Nebraska is in the class of after thoughts. We have been for awhile, but especially now after the last three seasons. The only people who think differently are red kool aide drunk. Huskers need to do something to change that. A winning season won't do that in my book unless it includes a win over tOSU, PSU or Wisc.
 

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I think you have to give CSF until he has a full compliment of his own recruits on the roster before you can totally try to judge him. And if you're not willing to do that, what are the options? Are we going to can him and add another "how many million $$$$" payoff to the already sizable one that we already have? We've gone through Solich, Callahan, Pelini, Riley, and now you're suggesting getting rid of Frost? Who are we going to hire next? This job is already to the point where not many other people want it! Truth be known, we should have stuck with Solich, 58 - 19 over 6 yrs. doesn't look all that bad from where I'm sitting!
 

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