Do bowls count when judging conference strength?

[king_kong_]

Since the Big Ten is doing well in this bowl season, we don't want to use it to judge conference strength. We wouldn't want to say anything nice about the B1G.

this is the same story as every bowl season for the B1G

gets all its winning done nice and early then gets embarrassed in the big games where nobody opts out and no coaches have been poached

started 4-0 last year, too - meant exactly nothing

B1G is an elite conference off the field in negotiating rooms with media companies (I say this all the time, and it's very complimentary). it just stinks at winning championships (what elite on-field conferences do).

 

[moralvictories]

Can confirm, bowls only matter if they confirm your biases.

My biases waiting to be confirmed:

Big 12 most underrated

Pac 12 most unwatched

Big 10 best coaching, tv deals, and parity, but overall overrated

SEC best players, fans, and reputation, but overall top heavy and overrated

ACC joke conference

The ACC is deep and competitive.

 

[9and4]

The ACC is deep and competitive.

And if Notre Dame ever feels the pressure to join as a full-time member, they'll be even better.

 

[moralvictories]

this is the same story as every bowl season for the B1G

gets all its winning done nice and early then gets embarrassed in the big games where nobody opts out and no coaches have been poached

started 4-0 last year, too - meant exactly nothing

B1G is an elite conference off the field in negotiating rooms with media companies (I say this all the time, and it's very complimentary). it just stinks at winning championships (what elite on-field conferences do).

Conferences don't win national championships, teams do. If Michigan or Ohio State wins the national championship, it means that a team from the B1G won a national championship. The conference didn't win jack.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

this is the same story as every bowl season for the B1G

gets all its winning done nice and early then gets embarrassed in the big games where nobody opts out and no coaches have been poached

started 4-0 last year, too - meant exactly nothing

B1G is an elite conference off the field in negotiating rooms with media companies (I say this all the time, and it's very complimentary). it just stinks at winning championships (what elite on-field conferences do).

But during the regular season, you always say how great the SEC is top-to-bottom. And how weak the Big Ten is top-to-bottom.

But when the Bowl results come in, you always change your tune and say that the National Championship is all that matters.

 

[king_kong_]

But during the regular season, you always say how great the SEC is top-to-bottom. And how weak the Big Ten is top-to-bottom.

But when the Bowl results come in, you always change your tune and say that the National Championship is all that matters.

I don't change my tune

I'm extremely consistent

those two statements work perfectly in parallel (B1G is weak, national championship is all that matters)

all the pinstripe bowl wins in the world will not change those two facts

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Updated Bowl results. Same story as last year still.

Big Ten: 3-0

SEC: 2-4

 

[king_kong_]

Conferences don't win national championships, teams do. If Michigan or Ohio State wins the national championship, it means that a team from the B1G won a national championship. The conference didn't win jack.

how convenient, B1G fan

 

[thall__]

Helps that the B1G has the only school the media has awarded with 2 CFP births without competing in the conf title game

Let me guess - B1G is the best hoops league because it has been gifted the most ncaa tourney bids?

Depth & coaching - ironically the two things most impacted by hirings/opt outs, 2 things early B1G bowl winners didn’t have to deal with while their opponents were ravaged

We’ll see today where the conference stacks up against its peers (2 titles in 52 years, zero hoops titles in 2 decades - all despite having the most chances)

Also - cheering for the B1G has absolutely nothing to do with NU’s success (obviously). You’d think adults would understand this, but, alas…

Love that “degenerate brainlet” got you all pissy.

Hilarious that you’re trying to argue some college basketball mental gymnastics on a Nebraska football board.

So which games count then? How about the regular season? Can we factor that in?

Head to head the big 12 is up 2-1.

Sure can. I think it’s safe to assume Oklahoma was a much better team than Nebraska back in September and that Iowa sucks in general.

 

[9and4]

Iowa sucks in general.

Water is wet.

 

[king_kong_]

Love that “degenerate brainlet” got you all pissy.

Hilarious that you’re trying to argue some college basketball mental gymnastics on a Nebraska football board.


Sure can. I think it’s safe to assume Oklahoma was a much better team than Nebraska back in September and that Iowa sucks in general.

posting facts = pissy

enjoy your 3rd bowl of dust for lunch

 

[jteten]

Bottom line, Michigan and OSU can change the narrative TODAY. Especially OSU. Beat UGA and at least then there would be something to truly debate. The -5.5 line is the best indicator that OSU should make a game of it.

 

[thall__]

posting facts = pissy

enjoy your 3rd bowl of dust for lunch

crying about the B1G having twice the CFP births = pissy

enjoy your Burnett’s for lunch. maybe step-mom will buy you pizza rolls if you get the basement cleaned up

 

[king_kong_]

crying about the B1G having twice the CFP births = pissy

enjoy your Burnett’s for lunch. maybe step-mom will buy you pizza rolls if you get the basement cleaned up

that's not what I said

not even close

try reading some time. it will help in post dustbowl-society, assuming oklahoma gets there during your hopefully short lifetime

 

[thall__]

that's not what I said

not even close

Helps that the B1G has the only school the media has awarded with 2 CFP births without competing in the conf title game

making you look stupid is almost boring at this point

PS, I’m a Montana native. Those of us with jobs, families and aspirations don’t spend our entire lives in the same cum-crusted computer chair.

 

[ckriley]

Well, despite being the most top heavy league by far, it still gets into the playoffs every year

Other teams doing well isn’t a requirement for our success. Obviously

No, it’s not a requirement for NU’s success.

I said earlier in this thread that these bowl games don’t mean anything. I was curious if the B1G lost any games. They haven’t.

Wanting to see the B1G do well is not the same as loving it.

That would be almost as dumb as hating it.

 

[king_kong_]

making you look stupid is almost boring at this point

PS, I’m a Montana native. Those of us with jobs, families and aspirations don’t spend our entire lives in the same cum-crusted computer chair.

those of us with desirable skills are able to work & live where we please

ah, man. now I feel bad about your previous cowardice costing you $200

anyone who moves their family from MT to OK desperately needs every penny

 

[thall__]

those of us with desirable skills are able to work & live where we please

those aren't moral victories

they're reflected in my bank account & go down as Ws (against the spread)

For the sake of my bank account I can’t wait to see you in the playoffs again

> desirable skill set
> needs to hit a parlay to keep from overdrawing his bank account again

yeah nobody’s buying that, buddy

 

[TheWayITellEm]

I don't change my tune

I'm extremely consistent

those two statements work perfectly in parallel (B1G is weak, national championship is all that matters)

all the pinstripe bowl wins in the world will not change those two facts

All year long you proclaimed that the SEC is great top-to-bottom.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Big Ten West Iowa easily handles SEC Kentucky. Alabama wins.

Updated Bowl results (still similar to last year):

Big Ten: 4-0

SEC: 3-5

 

[king_kong_]

All year long you proclaimed that the SEC is great top-to-bottom.

and during the regular season, the SEC won more games against P5 teams than any other league (B1G went 5-6)

what SEC teams do at half strength before NYE means nothing to anybody but you

 

[king_kong_]

> desirable skill set
> needs to hit a parlay to keep from overdrawing his bank account again

yeah nobody’s buying that, buddy

I can afford to have fun playing college football games

just like I can afford to not live in oklahoma

here's all my pity. please accept it.

 

[EmormousDouchebag]

Hey remember when playing in a bowl game meant something to men? I know i know i know...go shake your fist at the clouds more boomer. What a F'n joke to be arguing this.

 

[thall__]

i cant afford to move

fixed that for you.

drop your Venmo if you’re still hurting for that $200

 

[king_kong_]

fixed that for you.

drop your Venmo if you’re still hurting for that $200

oh, no

this has gotten incredibly sad

please tell me your kids had a Christmas. if not, Santa Kong would like to make it up to them.

maybe it's the holidays, but sitting here in my custom home nestled in the Fort Collins foothills thinking about your family eating dirt 3x per day in oklahoma has struck a nerve

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Facts are stubborn little things that can be funny, ironic, sarcastic all in one setting, yes.

Here's a fact, your little kitties got completely piss pounded. Wonder if you had good old Nebraska flashbacks with that ass kicking you took.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[scarletred]

Big Ten West Iowa easily handles SEC Kentucky. Alabama wins.

Updated Bowl results (still similar to last year):

Big Ten: 4-0

SEC: 3-5

Bama and Tennessee will be in the top 4 after the national title game..
Don’t give a $&it about herky and Gophers beating 5 and 6 loss teams..

 

[EmormousDouchebag]

Wanna know how I know @king_kong_ has a better life/is better than us? Dude straight lives in a CUSTOM home outside F'n FORT COLLINS. Best life. I'm so close to self harming right now I cant even.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

Big Ten West Iowa easily handles SEC Kentucky. Alabama wins.

Updated Bowl results (still similar to last year):

Big Ten: 4-0

SEC: 3-5

BIG really looks good playing against teams scrubs.....

 

[SWIowahawks]

BIG really looks good playing against teams scrubs.....

Scrubs vs. scrubs. Best time of the year outside March.

 

[scarletred]

Scrubs vs. scrubs. Best time of the year outside March.

Hell we would have beat you again to day and were 8 loss team..

 

[thall__]

maybe it's the holidays, but sitting here in my custom home nestled in the Fort Collins foothills thinking about your family eating dirt 3x per day in oklahoma has struck a nerve

"custom home" 🤣

doing picanha roast & king crab tonight! how about you?

 

[king_kong_]

"custom home" 🤣

doing picanha roast & king crab tonight! how about you?

Reservations in an hour

Bone-in ribeye (mkt price) has my name on it

 

[SWIowahawks]

Hell we would have beat you again to day and were 8 loss team..

Third sting QB? Probably. Cooper playing might have kept it close. Guy is a game changer.

 

[scarletred]

Third sting QB? Probably. Cooper playing might have kept it close. Guy is a game changer.

Who’s Copper I only know Alice..

 

[king_kong_]

Same story as last year.

Big Ten 2-0

SEC 1-3

do the post.again!

you were 100% right (as was I)

same story as last year

LMAO

 

[TheWayITellEm]

do the post.again!

you were 100% right (as was I)

same story as last year

LMAO

I'm 100% right. You're 100% wrong.

I said the Big Ten is about as good as the SEC top-to-bottom. You proclaimed daily that the SEC is dominant top-to-bottom.

 

[king_kong_]

I'm 100% right. You're 100% wrong.

I said the Big Ten is about as good as the SEC top-to-bottom. You proclaimed daily that the SEC is dominant top-to-bottom.

yep.

please continue to ignore facts like the probable #1 pick opting out, coaches & starting quarterbacks leaving, etc.

please continue to act like bowl games between .500 teams prior to Christmas mean as much as the playoffs

please feel free to continue wringing your hands over whether or not the 9th best SEC team would beat the 9th best B1G team

it's the absolute dumbest argument going & literally nobody cares

looking forward to our teams playing again to open next season

 

[TheWayITellEm]

yep.

please continue to ignore facts like the probable #1 pick opting out, coaches & starting quarterbacks leaving, etc.

please continue to act like bowl games between .500 teams prior to Christmas mean as much as the playoffs

please feel free to continue wringing your hands over whether or not the 9th best SEC team would beat the 9th best B1G team

it's the absolute dumbest argument going & literally nobody cares

looking forward to our teams playing again to open next season

All I've said is that Big Ten teams can compete with SEC teams.

And I'm right about that. And you're wrong about that.

But yeah, opening day next season should be interesting.

 

[king_kong_]

All I've said is that Big Ten teams can compete with SEC teams.

And I'm right about that. And you're wrong about that.

But yeah, opening day next season should be interesting.

congrats on another post season full of moral victories

I'm sure all the bros down at the ice fishin' hole can't wait to talk about how close the B1G was

maybe next year