It is, at the detriment to society.Obesity is a personal choice. See people buying 44 ounce sodas and multiple snickers regularly at the convenience store. And they are obese.
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It is, at the detriment to society.Obesity is a personal choice. See people buying 44 ounce sodas and multiple snickers regularly at the convenience store. And they are obese.
Monetarily and visually. Being obese is like taking a great painting and dragging it home from the hitch of a car. Spiritually depressing.It is, at the detriment to society.
Sadly, if we comply now to the mask mandates, it won't be 9 months it will be 42 months. Perhaps off and on but once the power of mind control takes over, it isn't easy to get rid of.This thing in one form or another will be here for the foreseeable future. It seems the vaccinated have a much "better" reaction than the non vaxxed. I can only assume there will be a newer variant and another and another. It incredibly frustrating thats for sure. The thought of having to wear a mask for the next 9 months at work is also frustrating.
And their the ones that need to get the Covid vaccine because their more likely to underlying issues causing them to be in intensive care units..Obesity is a personal choice. See people buying 44 ounce sodas and multiple snickers regularly at the convenience store. And they are obese.
It's pretty difficult to tell what his "real world" perspective is when his talking points are leftist hysterical garbage. Do you know where he works? Do you know what kind of a doctor he is? I don't, but here you are making excuses for him "likely... watching patients die."ALL of you guys have had valid points but the personal attacks on regionsdoc are unwarranted IMO. He's viewing it from his real world perspective which more than likely has involved watching many of his patients die of COVID.
This thing in one form or another will be here for the foreseeable future. It seems the vaccinated have a much "better" reaction than the non vaxxed. I can only assume there will be a newer variant and another and another. It incredibly frustrating thats for sure. The thought of having to wear a mask for the next 9 months at work is also frustrating.
Agree, I look at Dr. Atlas. Many people discounted anything he said and believed anything Fraudci said, even when what Fraudci said previously changed and then agreed with Atlas' beliefs. I can promise you that there are doctors that aren't in favor of mask mandates, mandatory vaccines and shut downs but will not say a word publicly because of the cancel culture that is prevalent in the media and on the left. They aren't going to risk their reputation being soiled by the national media and have to deal with the loss of clientele when they can just say nothing publicly and go about their way.It's pretty difficult to tell what his "real world" perspective is when his talking points are leftist hysterical garbage. Do you know where he works? Do you know what kind of a doctor he is? I don't, but here you are making excuses for him "likely... watching patients die."
For those who have been watching the charade, many of the hyperbolic, attention seeking, public shaming doctors who have been pushing irrational narratives have been nothing but frauds.
I always get a kick how you go from reasonable to ridiculous some times. I'll still buy ya a mango margarita.
Well said.. my wife (MD) and her sister (also MD), and I were just laughing at the new mask rules. All a joke. But regionsdoc and his handler dingle can tell us why we are dumb and should fall in line.It's pretty difficult to tell what his "real world" perspective is when his talking points are leftist hysterical garbage. Do you know where he works? Do you know what kind of a doctor he is? I don't, but here you are making excuses for him "likely... watching patients die."
For those who have been watching the charade, many of the hyperbolic, attention seeking, public shaming doctors who have been pushing irrational narratives have been nothing but frauds.
I always get a kick how you go from reasonable to ridiculous some times. I'll still buy ya a mango margarita.
Not sure Dingle is a mask guy as much as he is a vaccine guy.Well said.. my wife (MD) and her sister (also MD), and I were just laughing at the new mask rules. All a joke. But regionsdoc and his handler dingle can tell us why we are dumb and should fall in line.
Obese->need to get vaccine->potentially spawning new resistant strains. Hopefully the latter doesn't happen.And their the ones that need to get the Covid vaccine because their more likely to underlying issues causing them to be in intensive care units..
Do your wife and her sister advocate their patients take the vaccine? Have they, themselves, taken the vaccine even if they are not high risk?Well said.. my wife (MD) and her sister (also MD), and I were just laughing at the new mask rules. All a joke. But regionsdoc and his handler dingle can tell us why we are dumb and should fall in line.
Honest question: what training does Atlas have that would make him an expert at a global pandemic? He is a radiologist with no training in actual patient care, epidemiology, or infectious disease. He is also a long time member of a conservative think tank. So Fauci is biased because of political leanings, but not Atlas???? And over 96 percent of MDs have received the vaccination. For the record, I am not in favor of mandatory vaccines—-the concern is mandates can lead to worse issues down the road.Agree, I look at Dr. Atlas. Many people discounted anything he said and believed anything Fraudci said, even when what Fraudci said previously changed and then agreed with Atlas' beliefs. I can promise you that there are doctors that aren't in favor of mask mandates, mandatory vaccines and shut downs but will not say a word publicly because of the cancel culture that is prevalent in the media and on the left. They aren't going to risk their reputation being soiled by the national media and have to deal with the loss of clientele when they can just say nothing publicly and go about their way.
I don't care what training he has. He has been consistent from the get go and has been right as much as your hero Fraudci. Fauci is like Wiltfong when it comes to recruiting, changes his opinion to look right.Honest question: what training does Atlas have that would make him an expert at a global pandemic? He is a radiologist with no training in actual patient care, epidemiology, or infectious disease. He is also a long time member of a conservative think tank. So Fauci is biased because of political leanings, but not Atlas???? And over 96 percent of MDs have received the vaccination. For the record, I am not in favor of mandatory vaccines—-the concern is mandates can lead to worse issues down the road.
agreeThe overall messaging of Covid and variants has been all over the place. Regardless of the political difference, the message should have been straight forward and 100% based facts.
people have the right to choose what is best for them and their kids. The information we need to make that decision should be accurate it’s not. So now we have sides drawn, no belief in our government, and a country full of people that have no idea what to think or know what’s next.
This appeal to credentialism is ridiculous. Just look at all of the studies conducted by PhDs that have been shown to be garbage since this crap started. Infamously the Big 10's mycarditis decision that was widely panned and written off fake or fraudulent data.Honest question: what training does Atlas have that would make him an expert at a global pandemic? He is a radiologist with no training in actual patient care, epidemiology, or infectious disease. He is also a long time member of a conservative think tank. So Fauci is biased because of political leanings, but not Atlas???? And over 96 percent of MDs have received the vaccination. For the record, I am not in favor of mandatory vaccines—-the concern is mandates can lead to worse issues down the road.
Wow. That’s interesting. And very sad. Were you concerned for yourself while there?I was there on the ground. My brother in law has been sick for over 6 weeks and his ddimer level is still high, we believe he has lung damage from long covid and is only 36 years old. My uncle in law died while I was there, he was older, mid to late 50’s. I can’t tell you how many ambulances I saw while there, but I recall seeing 3 different ones go through a busy intersection while waiting for a single traffic light. More than 3 peopled died at my wife’s work, a school where there are maybe 40 elementary school employees. And since you probably don’t know, there isn’t an obesity problem in Indonesia either. Their big problem is not being vaccinated.
I consider this a nasty response to a lighthearted jab (no pun intended) at people making the same points over and over for a year and a half.As long as we have you to decide the parameters of every discussion we probably don't even need a discussion board.
Over 80% are asymptomatic. But all it takes is one anonymous handle to tell us they had a relative die from it and people crumble as if they had a life-long relationship with the poster while knowing nothing of the co-morbidity. The sympathy-seeking and virtue-points-empathy is the posturing you get with people who don't believe in arriving at solutions thru rigorous debate.. The vast majority of people who get covid have at worst minor symptoms akin to a cold and are over it quickly. For some it is like the flu.
Do your wife and her sister advocate their patients take the vaccine? Have they, themselves, taken the vaccine even if they are not high risk?
Per masks - do they wear them in the OR or is that a funny infringement on their personal liberties?
Over 80% are asymptomatic. But all it takes is one anonymous handle to tell us they had a relative die from it and people crumble as if they had a life-long relationship with the poster while knowing nothing of the co-morbidity. The sympathy-seeking and virtue-points-empathy-giving is the posturing you get with people who don't believe in arriving at solutions thru rigorous debate.
When your observations/opinions are mostly emotions, you have lost.
And of course all these debates avoid the core issue: "does the constitution become null and void whenever an individual is rationally or irrationally frightened of something or someone?"
Did we get rid of the constitution when AIDS hit? I remember there were people who wanted to use the AIDs epidemic to declare gay people public enemy number 1. But the courts weren't gonna support that and cooler heads prevailed before it ever got that far. But NOW, because the minority has been successfully demonized by truly bad people with unlimited ambition ... well we're gonna satisfy some long held grudges with good old-fashioned revenge.
"We'll follow the science."
2 problems:
(A) We've spent decades turning science into a political cudgel reminiscent of the eugenics "science" scam going back over 100 years.
(B) Sorry charlie, but the constitution trumps "science" when science says liberty is public enemy number 1. And all you need to do is look at the 20th century to find an endless list of oppressors who used "science" to justify consolidation of illegal power.
For those few capable of rational fear, there is something much more terrifying than Covid-19. And that something is how quickly 170+ million of your fellow "freedom-loving" Americans couldn't wait to turn over their autonomy and become wards of the state.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Luckily we have NPR, a state run media enterprise happy to tell us that what Franklin really meant was that a more oppressive government is a good thing. It's almost like NPR exists to make George Orwell look more brilliant with each passing year.
I wonder how many people in this thread have read this book, and of those how many appreciate it's gravitas?
Isn't Florida a bit of shit show right now?
I wasn't too worried since I had the J&J shot a couple of months prior, but I do have risk factors like A+ blood and hypertension, high bmi, over age 50 etc.Wow. That’s interesting. And very sad. Were you concerned for yourself while there?
Over 80% are asymptomatic. But all it takes is one anonymous handle to tell us they had a relative die from it and people crumble as if they had a life-long relationship with the poster while knowing nothing of the co-morbidity. The sympathy-seeking and virtue-points-empathy-giving is the posturing you get with people who don't believe in arriving at solutions thru rigorous debate.
When your observations/opinions are mostly emotions, you have lost.
And of course all these debates avoid the core issue: "does the constitution become null and void whenever an individual is rationally or irrationally frightened of something or someone?"
Did we get rid of the constitution when AIDS hit? I remember there were people who wanted to use the AIDs epidemic to declare gay people public enemy number 1. But the courts weren't gonna support that and cooler heads prevailed before it ever got that far. But NOW, because the minority has been successfully demonized by truly bad people with unlimited ambition ... well we're gonna satisfy some long held grudges with good old-fashioned revenge.
"We'll follow the science."
2 problems:
(A) We've spent decades turning science into a political cudgel reminiscent of the eugenics "science" scam going back over 100 years.
(B) Sorry charlie, but the constitution trumps "science" when science says liberty is public enemy number 1. And all you need to do is look at the 20th century to find an endless list of oppressors who used "science" to justify consolidation of illegal power.
For those few capable of rational fear, there is something much more terrifying than Covid-19. And that something is how quickly 170+ million of your fellow "freedom-loving" Americans couldn't wait to turn over their autonomy and become wards of the state.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Luckily we have NPR, a state run media enterprise happy to tell us that what Franklin really meant was that a more oppressive government is a good thing. It's almost like NPR exists to make George Orwell look more brilliant with each passing year.
I wonder how many people in this thread have read this book, and of those how many appreciate it's gravitas?
I don’t know why I thought you were antivax. That is a pretty conflicting message though. I assume you and your wife and her sister are all healthy. Why would you take it if you didn’t need it? The answer to that, which you very well know is exactly why everyone who is able to take the vaccine, should, on their own accord.Yes, we all have the vaccine. Vaccine is probably a good way to hedge your bets, but if you’re healthy you’re good either way.
cloth masks are useless. It’s a dog and pony show at this point.
Your bread is unhealthy.
Over 80% are asymptomatic. But all it takes is one anonymous handle to tell us they had a relative die from it and people crumble as if they had a life-long relationship with the poster while knowing nothing of the co-morbidity. The sympathy-seeking and virtue-points-empathy-giving is the posturing you get with people who don't believe in arriving at solutions thru rigorous debate.
When your observations/opinions are mostly emotions, you have lost.
And of course all these debates avoid the core issue: "does the constitution become null and void whenever an individual is rationally or irrationally frightened of something or someone?"
Did we get rid of the constitution when AIDS hit? I remember there were people who wanted to use the AIDs epidemic to declare gay people public enemy number 1. But the courts weren't gonna support that and cooler heads prevailed before it ever got that far. But NOW, because the minority has been successfully demonized by truly bad people with unlimited ambition ... well we're gonna satisfy some long held grudges with good old-fashion revenge.
"We'll follow the science."
2 problems:
(A) We've spent decades turning science into a political cudgel reminiscent of the eugenics "science" scam going back over 100 years.
(B) Sorry charlie, but the constitution trumps "science" when science says liberty is public enemy number 1. And all you need to do is look at the 20th century to find an endless list of oppressors who used "science" to justify consolidation of illegal power.
For those few capable of rational fear, there is something much more terrifying than Covid-19. And that something is how quickly 170+ million of your fellow "freedom-loving" Americans couldn't wait to turn over their autonomy and become wards of the state.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Luckily we have NPR, a state run media enterprise happy to tell us that what Franklin really meant was that a more oppressive government is a good thing. It's almost like NPR exists to make George Orwell look more brilliant with each passing year.
I wonder how many people in this thread have read this book, and of those how many appreciate it's gravitas?
the more important inoculation are the books written warning of this moment coupled with the critical thinking skills needed to resist the power-mad
Yes, we all have the vaccine. Vaccine is probably a good way to hedge your bets, but if you’re healthy you’re good either way.
cloth masks are useless. It’s a dog and pony show at this point.
Your bread is unhealthy.
Nasty? I'm so sorry. I had no idea you were such a delicate flower. Best wishes for you to recover from the nasty injury you've sustained. Hopefully you can keep looking down on us when you decide the conversational zenith has been achieved.I consider this a nasty response to a lighthearted jab (no pun intended) at people making the same points over and over for a year and a half.
It wasn't like I labeled someone else's post "an incredible and irresponsible misconception and misinformation" Now had I posted something like that, I would expect nasty responses.
I've read enough of his posts to believe that he's a real Dr. and that he didn't just sleep at Holiday Inn Express. I don't agree with some of the things he posts but on the other hand I haven't read anything that was way out wacky wrong either. You put 20 Dr.s in a room and not all of them are going to agree with everything as regards COVID. Generally though they're going to be polite and give at least some consideration to views that differ from their own. His perspective is different from some of us. That's all.It's pretty difficult to tell what his "real world" perspective is when his talking points are leftist hysterical garbage. Do you know where he works? Do you know what kind of a doctor he is? I don't, but here you are making excuses for him "likely... watching patients die."
For those who have been watching the charade, many of the hyperbolic, attention seeking, public shaming doctors who have been pushing irrational narratives have been nothing but frauds.
I always get a kick how you go from reasonable to ridiculous some times. I'll still buy ya a mango margarita.
When you assume it just makes you an ass.I don’t know why I thought you were antivax. That is a pretty conflicting message though. I assume you and your wife and her sister are all healthy. Why would you take it if you didn’t need it? The answer to that, which you very well know is exactly why everyone who is able to take the vaccine, should, on their own accord.
Cloth masks are useless for protection but help reduce spread. Surgical masks are slightly helpful for protection and very useful to prevent spread. KN95 and above are very useful for prevention and spread. Anyone with a modicum of sense would realize that there is different efficacy. If everyone properly used a KN95 this would get knocked out pretty quickly.
I know that in my clinic I have been exposed to symptomatic Covid at least three times. Each time the patients wore either a surgical or cloth mask and I usually wear a KN95 or surgical mask. Seemed to help for me.
It's the same thing Americans always want. A pill or a shot to make up for all of their poor habits. It's much easier to vaccinate high risk obese patients than to get them to quit Micky Ds and lose that extra 100 lbs of weight they're carrying around. To be fair though, I lost a 65 year old friend who had no comorbidities. This virus can be pretty random in who it decides to kill. The best analogy I've heard is "not getting vaccinated is like playing Russian roulette".Like I said vaccine is a good way to hedge your bets. Eating healthy is also a good way to live longer. I’m still very fascinated why you care so much about vaccines and masks, but haven’t heard your voice your concern over American diets. Obesity is a much bigger risk than COVID. Please use your energy for the latter.
Apology accepted. Thank you. Now feel free to carry on with your miserable life.Nasty? I'm so sorry. I had no idea you were such a delicate flower. Best wishes for you to recover from the nasty injury you've sustained. Hopefully you can keep looking down on us when you decide the conversational zenith has been achieved.
You don’t think recommendations should change as more peer-reviewed data comes in? You don’t think leaders in any field should flex to new information? Generals in war? Pilots in the air? Scott frost with his swing passes? And when did I ever say fauci is a hero? No one in this pandemic has been a hero. It has sucked for everyone, and everyone has been flawed at some point..I don't care what training he has. He has been consistent from the get go and has been right as much as your hero Fraudci. Fauci is like Wiltfong when it comes to recruiting, changes his opinion to look right.
There are people with zero medical experience that can obtain data and determine if what Fraudci or Atlas says is true. There have been practically no studies about mask wearing and how that affects the spread of the virus. Show me one. But I can go to a statistician and have him provide me with data to show that California and all of their mask mandates have a similar spread of the virus as Texas and Florida, with no mask mandates. Explain that to me.
Roughly 8000 people die ever day in the USA on avg. You have plenty of pearl clutching posts, but I have seen zero plans from you on stopping death.Florida reports biggest one-day COVID-19 infection spike with 21,683 new cases
Only a day earlier, Florida reported 17,093 new cases.amp.palmbeachpost.com
Florida accounted for about one in six of the new deaths documented nationwide in July, the data collected by the CDC shows.
Most of the new cases and those seen in the hospital are unvaccinated individuals 20-49 years of age," Alonso told The Palm Beach Post on Saturday.
Anyway back to Husker football the only way I see it impacting the team is if there is an outbreak by position group. The quarantine process could get tricky for sure
This guy has a lot of letters behind his name. Let me know if you like any of them. I'll keep looking.You don’t think recommendations should change as more peer-reviewed data comes in? You don’t think leaders in any field should flex to new information? Generals in war? Pilots in the air? Scott frost with his swing passes? And when did I ever say fauci is a hero? No one in this pandemic has been a hero. It has sucked for everyone, and everyone has been flawed at some point..