Complete rebuild can't happen with Raiola coaching

[JOHNNY N]

It's too bad the coaches keep these lousy ass Olinemen in the game. They're all practice pillow warriors and then suck balls as soon as someone hits them in the mouth. Don't wanna wish for an injury but...

The younger guys haven't done well when they've been in either. Crazy how much the big OT flipping to OU hurt the offense.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

We are missing and not developing. I can't imagine being a backup to TC and not even getting a shot with how he plays.

Never ceases to amaze me how many "new" kids show up playing for the D, when they never made a contribution last year, yet offensively, we are stuck with same sad sacks in the OL and never given a shot to the young kids like Jenkins, Gottula and Sledge.

Maybe they are like some of the defensive new contributors, in that what they really need is a shot at playing in a real game. See who steps up and who doesn't. Maybe one or two of them come outta nowhere.

To have Corc, Piper and Benhart so solidly entrenched as immovable starters is ridiculous.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

It's too bad the coaches keep these lousy ass Olinemen in the game. They're all practice pillow warriors and then suck balls as soon as someone hits them in the mouth. Don't wanna wish for an injury but...

Their biggest contribution most plays is running up to the running back to help them up.

If they were doing their job, the back would be farther down the field and not have to be helped up a yard from the line of scrimmage.

Instead of "pancake" blocks, they should chart who is the first to help the RB up after the play.

Its a joke.

 

[JOHNNY N]

He's had 2 years to bring in a starting quality LT and hasn't done it. With the ease of bringing in guys from the transfer portal, there's no excuse for that. They still don't look that well coached. The OL doesn't know how to get to the 2nd level. They get easily confused in pass protection if there's any sort of stunt or blitz called. And they don't always play hard. Unless there's massive improvement in line play from now until the end of the season, Raiola needs to be out the door.

Not exactly fair to lay anything that went on during the frost era at Raiolas' feet.

He had a pretty good OT committed until he flipped to OU for a better NIL deal. Unless you think that UNLs' NIL shortcomings are Raiolas fault.

 

[beaglehusker]

That you don't think coaches are involved with the motivation of their players is quite frankly one of the dumbest takes I've heard on here. Talk about know nothing.

Did I say that, no. You said it was one of their primary functions. It absolutely is not, not even close to the top of the list of a coaches "primary" functions. The fact that you need it explained and apparently spelled out further is more proof you have absolutely little idea what a coach does.

I never once said a coach won't try motivation, but it's no way a primary function. That kind of coach is worthless. Let me guess, that's how you coach. Try some reading comprehension

 

[Wyldcard]

I keep seeing people say "complete rebuild", alluding to it's going to take patience to see results. And while I understand that, at the same time, you can't have a rebuild using ANY of the same coaches from the previous staff. Especially not at the most important position group on the field.

You can't take a house with a severely damaged foundation and say "it'll be a complete rebuild" and then just toss on some new siding, and repaint some of the rooms, while completely ignoring the crumbling foundation.

While Rhule was not my first choice, I was certainly willing to give him a chance and be hopeful. Then once he announced he was keeping Raiola, I sighed and said to myself, "might as well just start looking for a new AD and start raising money for Rhule's buyout right now."

Trev better tell Rhule to start looking for a new o-line coach and make him the highest paid position coach in the program.

You sir are a moron and if it wouldn't been for him, we wouldn't be ranked 6th in the nation in Rushing Offense and haven't been ranked that high in Rushing since Solich was here, and that was 20 years ago whe he got canned.

 

[oldjar07]

Not exactly fair to lay anything that went on during the frost era at Raiolas' feet.

He had a pretty good OT committed until he flipped to OU for a better NIL deal. Unless you think that UNLs' NIL shortcomings are Raiolas fault.

Again, we have the rest of the year to see if he can make something of his unit. 2 years is more than enough time to evaluate an assistant coach.

 

[dinglefritz]

Again, we have the rest of the year to see if he can make something of his unit. 2 years is more than enough time to evaluate an assistant coach.

Recruiting is a big part of it. Raiola is coaching his guys the way Rhule wants them coached. HAVE to develop a left tackle better than Corcoran.

 

[Big bo fan]

Again, we have the rest of the year to see if he can make something of his unit. 2 years is more than enough time to evaluate an assistant coach.

I believe the reasons that Donnie was retained.
1 it was the only shot to get Dylan.
2 Frost and Whipple had the offense so screwed up the line was preparing to block to different approaches offensively. Rhule gave him a second chance but it’s only a 1 year contract.

 

[HankMoody78]

Are there any OL coaches, or former OL on here? Id like to hear an informed opinion vs we average fans. Personally, I think I've seen slow improvement since Mickey took over, excluding Corcoran. I don't buy that Dylan was a major factor in retaining Donovan. He has a pretty good reputation, and coaches/players always speak highly of him.

 

[inWV]

I don't think our OL is terrible like many seem to think. We have QBs that cannot throw and minimal elite targets. We are #1 in rushing the conference right now. You can't have a sh*t OL and do that. Pass blocking we do seem to whiff and TC gets beat quite a bit. Not saying we are a good OL, but it's def not terrible.

I think Sat needs to do a better job of doing screens, quick PA passes to tight ends. Grant and our QBs can run well enough. Gotta find Kemp and Fidone a LOT more.

The Dline for NIU was no joke and La Tech had some athletic kids. Run yards will be at a premium this Saturday, but hopefully the add some more wrinkles to the option.

 

[inWV]

Recruiting is a big part of it. Raiola is coaching his guys the way Rhule wants them coached. HAVE to develop a left tackle better than Corcoran.

Rhule will not throw kids under the bus, but I suspect they are working Teddy into game shape. Better to have him in shape and playing with confidence for 5-6 games than getting re-injured because we wanted him in there against Michigan.

 

[dinglefritz]

The Dline for NIU was no joke and La Tech had some athletic kids. Run yards will be at a premium this Saturday, but hopefully the add some more wrinkles to the option.

Hopefully HH is 100%

 

[king_kong_]

Are there any OL coaches, or former OL on here? Id like to hear an informed opinion vs we average fans. Personally, I think I've seen slow improvement since Mickey took over, excluding Corcoran. I don't buy that Dylan was a major factor in retaining Donovan. He has a pretty good reputation, and coaches/players always speak highly of him.

I'm sure extending the lone offer to his kid brother is because of his "pretty good reputation", too

get real, guy. it didn't play a major part. it was the only part.

 

[Big bo fan]

I'm sure extending the lone offer to his kid brother is because of his "pretty good reputation", too

get real, guy. it didn't play a major part. it was the only part.

I agree with you on Dylan’s recruitment as I stated earlier as a major reason. But I honestly believe also that in talks with Donnie on his philosophy and talking to the returning OL. I think Rhule was Willing to give him a chance. As I stated Frost and Whipple had completely different ideas on the direction of the offense any line and their coach would have been totally confused. But he only gave him a 1 year contract so it’s not like he totally bought in. We will see what happens at seasons end.

 

[leodisflowers]

I don't know what happens behind the scenes with Raiola, but you can't blame him for everything. Yes, coaches play a role, but at some point players have to play. There is no way Raiola is coaching Turner C to be that bad.

 

[oldjar07]

I don't know what happens behind the scenes with Raiola, but you can't blame him for everything. Yes, coaches play a role, but at some point players have to play. There is no way Raiola is coaching Turner C to be that bad.

Well he is that bad, and Raiola has done nothing to address it.

 

[JOHNNY N]

has done nothing to address it.

 

[leodisflowers]

Lol. That's why he is on ignore for me. I don't even want to engage.

 

[HankMoody78]

I'm sure extending the lone offer to his kid brother is because of his "pretty good reputation", too

get real, guy. it didn't play a major part. it was the only part.

I don't think a coach with Rhules experience retains a position coach because of a possible recruit. I realize it's not the most popular opinion, but agree to disagree. I'm not as low on coach Riola as most others.

 

[dinglefritz]

I don't think a coach with Rhules experience retains a position coach because of a possible recruit. I realize it's not the most popular opinion, but agree to disagree. I'm not as low on coach Riola as most others.

Dylan would have been huge for the program but I agree with you. People forget that Rhule and Satt have both coached the O line. Raiola has his marching orders and Rhule micromanages all of his assistants. Tom was the ultimate micromanager. I’m not worried about Raiola as long as he can build relationships with recruits which by all accounts he’s good at that.