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Colorado to Big 12 soon?

Colorado. If they changed from the Buffaloes to The Homeless Pot Smokers I'd at least admire their honestly.
Colorado is a beautiful state with a corrupt, rotting culture. Thanks to Boulder. Ever been there? It's a real freakshow.
I drove through once and was lodged by a bike trail due to traffic issues. It was like one Harry Potter character after another, on bikes, rode by. Pretty entertaining.
 
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Reminds me off the scene in Airheads when David Arquette's character wants back into the studio.

Colorado is the crazy ex GF who nobody wants so they keep running back to old loser boyfriend's because they know they can't do any better. Right @Scavenger? Enjoy the Big 12 sans Oklahoma and Texass. RollingLaugh
 
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Curious why Utah isn't more coveted? Is that state just not a big sports draw? They have historical success in basketball and football, couple big cities....waaaaay more attractive than Colorado IMO.
 
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Curious why Utah isn't more coveted? Is that state just not a big sports draw? They have historical success in basketball and football, couple big cities....waaaaay more attractive than Colorado IMO.
There may well be things going on behind the scenes for the other schools, they're just not leaking it to the public. But also in the case of Utah I'm guessing they split their state TV interest with BYU so getting them just isn't a slam dunk for getting the state.

Remember these days when it comes to conference realignment, it ISN'T about who has the best ranked teams in the polls, it's about who actually draws the most TV eyeballs.
 
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There may well be things going on behind the scenes for the other schools, they're just not leaking it to the public. But also in the case of Utah I'm guessing they split their state TV interest with BYU so getting them just isn't a slam dunk for getting the state.

Remember these days when it comes to conference realignment, it ISN'T about who has the best ranked teams in the polls, it's about who actually draws the most TV eyeballs.
this is wrong (for the dozenth time)

it simply has to do with one single factor - which cable markets are not currently part of a conference's local TV package today

if Utah or BYU came into the B1G, BTN would be offered in local cable packages throughout the state of Utah and probably parts of Idaho, because that's their regional cable market

who watches what has NOTHING to do with it & never has

for instance: nobody watches Rutgers, but now everybody who is a cable subscriber in NY/NJ gets BTN as part of their local package instead of having to pay a premium to subscribe out of market.

again - none of them watch it, but they all have it on their listings, which BTN can sell to advertisers
 
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this is wrong (for the dozenth time)

it simply has to do with one single factor - which cable markets are not currently part of a conference's local TV package today

if Utah or BYU came into the B1G, BTN would be offered in local cable packages throughout the state of Utah and probably parts of Idaho, because that's their regional cable market

who watches what has NOTHING to do with it & never has

for instance: nobody watches Rutgers, but now everybody who is a cable subscriber in NY/NJ gets BTN as part of their local package instead of having to pay a premium to subscribe out of market.

again - none of them watch it, but they all have it on their listings, which BTN can sell to advertisers
That's basically the only thing CU has going for it (other than Deion and he's a wildcard), the Denver market for tv deals. I wonder how that impacts CU's attractiveness to the B12 since they don't have a dedicated conference network like BTN.
 
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Curious why Utah isn't more coveted? Is that state just not a big sports draw? They have historical success in basketball and football, couple big cities....waaaaay more attractive than Colorado IMO.
Utah has indicated that they don't want to be in the Big 12.
 
Imagine a conference that looked like this:

Nebraska
Texas
K-state
Missouri
Texas A&M
Colorado
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa St.
TCU

The Big 12 was a conference of fools. They had it all and completely blew it. Instead, Nebraska is now in a conference that except for a few games, is like watching paint dry. And now Nebraska looks just like the rest of them. Been that way for years, and it is not going to change. UCLA is a complete, uncaring dog. Hope USC can light things up some. But your going to have lots of money!! That you didn't need.
 
Imagine a conference that looked like this:

Nebraska
Texas
K-state
Missouri
Texas A&M
Colorado
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa St.
TCU

The Big 12 was a conference of fools. They had it all and completely blew it. Instead, Nebraska is now in a conference that except for a few games, is like watching paint dry. And now Nebraska looks just like the rest of them. Been that way for years, and it is not going to change. UCLA is a complete, uncaring dog. Hope USC can light things up some. But your going to have lots of money!! That you didn't need.
TCU didn't join the conference until after Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M left.
 
If CU joins the B12, that will make 13 members. Surely, they'll want someone else to join and make an even number. Who's on deck? UCONN, ASU, Arizona, Utah...?
 
Outside of pilfering the P12 schools, who is there left for the B12 to consider? In 2015, the B12 looked into expanding and teased several schools before deciding against expansion. Here are some of the names thrown around then (several of these spent $10-15 grand on a presentation)...Tulane, BYU, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Arkansas State, UCONN, UCF, SMU, Rice, and Houston.
 
Imagine a conference that looked like this:

Nebraska
Texas
K-state
Missouri
Texas A&M
Colorado
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa St.
TCU

The Big 12 was a conference of fools. They had it all and completely blew it. Instead, Nebraska is now in a conference that except for a few games, is like watching paint dry. And now Nebraska looks just like the rest of them. Been that way for years, and it is not going to change. UCLA is a complete, uncaring dog. Hope USC can light things up some. But your going to have lots of money!! That you didn't need.
Odd number of teams. Need to add either West Virginia or BYU to have an equal number of teams per division. Oh yeah, also have Nebraska and Oklahoma as a protected rivalry game or have them in the same division so they can play each other every year.
 
If CU joins the B12, that will make 13 members. Surely, they'll want someone else to join and make an even number. Who's on deck? UCONN, ASU, Arizona, Utah...?
I'll be very surprised if UConn leaves the Big East. They decided to let basketball drive the bus, and it's pretty hard to argue with the results.
 
Imagine this Big 12

Nebraska
Colorado
Iowa State
Missouri
Kansas
K-State
BYU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Baylor

14 team league, basically the old Big 12 plus BYU (another mountain school for CU and late night games) and Arkansas which is close to everyone. Would be the perfect league tbh. Nebraska’s 3 protected rivals can be OU, Colorado, K-State. The other 6 games rotate. That would be amazing. Fun to dream of. I do think college football as we know it will blow up at some point and go back towards more geographical fits. Just my opinion.
 
Imagine a conference that looked like this:

Nebraska
Texas
K-state
Missouri
Texas A&M
Colorado
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Baylor
Texas Tech
Iowa St.
TCU

The Big 12 was a conference of fools. They had it all and completely blew it. Instead, Nebraska is now in a conference that except for a few games, is like watching paint dry. And now Nebraska looks just like the rest of them. Been that way for years, and it is not going to change. UCLA is a complete, uncaring dog. Hope USC can light things up some. But your going to have lots of money!! That you didn't need.
TEXAS.
 
TV markets seem to be the main driving force in conference realignment. Football success is generally a secondary factor unless it's some big football brand like Texass and Oklahoma. Then again, look at Texass, they certainly haven't had a lot of success recently, so my point stands.

The B1G added very little quality in the field since pedst. Just look at the combined records of every team added. UCLA is basically Rutgers West Coast Campus. USC might the first school to find any success since Pedst so why not another school like Colorado.
 
Colorado and Arizona are leaving for the Big 12 according to this guy.
I can see the Big 12 not adding Utah but it seems puzzling that they'd add Arizona instead of Arizona State (unless of course Arizona State has something else "cooking for themselves" and declined a Big 12 offer).
 
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I can see the Big 12 not adding Utah but it seems puzzling that they'd add Arizona instead of Arizona State (unless of course Arizona State has something else "cooking for themselves" and declined a Big 12 offer).
Agreed. ASU may not feel the pressure to make a quick move like Arizona. The Big 12 would be stupid to not add Utah if given the opportunity. They interest me more then most Pac 12 and Big 12 schools.
 
Agreed. ASU may not feel the pressure to make a quick move like Arizona. The Big 12 would be stupid to not add Utah if given the opportunity. They interest me more then most Pac 12 and Big 12 schools.
The problem for the Big 12 in adding Utah is the presence of BYU.
 
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I would love to see regional conferences here is set up for east to west 16 teams. The BIG is not letting go of USC and UCLA and the SEC is not giving up Texas and Oklahoma so here you go. My set up is on the ACC and Big 12 being poached

New Big East
Penn State
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Maryland
Rutgers
Virginia
Virginia Tech
UNC
NC State
Duke
GA Tech
Miami
FSU
Syracuse
Clemson
 
New Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
Purdue
Illinois
N'Western
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
USC
UCLA
Oklahoma St
TCU
Texas Tech

New PAC
Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Oregon
Oregon St
Washington
Washington St
Stanford
Cal
UNLV
SanDiego St
SMU
Houston
UTSA

AAC
Temple
Boston College
Army
UCONN
Navy
UNCC
ECU
Wake Forest
Memphis
UAB
Central Florida
Cincy
Tulane
South Florida
Louisville
ODU
 
Yep. Other than the money, Big 12 would be so much better than B1G. Would love this...

Baylor
BYU
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Colorado
Houston
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Nebraska
Oklahoma St
TCU
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Nebraska would fit right into a conference like that.
 
TCU didn't join the conference until after Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M left.
You are right.
Colorado has “cachet”, no other current member has.
They have their 5 down National Campionship. They have Heisman winners, multiple AA players.

Plus Denver.

Seriously if you are the big 12 wouldn’t you rather have Colorado than UFC??? They have UFC, but have a chance to get Colorado?

Big misfits would rather have Colorado than any of the other 4 Corner schools.


Just my Alaskan opinion.
The University of Colorado - Boulder - has more 'cachet' as you say, than any school in the Big 10 or SEC, and it's not even close. They are a sexy school in a sexy town in a sexy state (Aspen, Beaver Creek, Vail to name a few).
 
You are right.

The University of Colorado - Boulder - has more 'cachet' as you say, than any school in the Big 10 or SEC, and it's not even close. They are a sexy school in a sexy town in a sexy state (Aspen, Beaver Creek, Vail to name a few).
I’m guessing very few people in Apen or Vail care as much about football as people in Lincoln or Tuscaloosa do
 
The problem for the Big 12 in adding Utah is the presence of BYU.
Big 12 cares about winning

BYU would be a boon, not a retractor for adding utah

The conference is losing two of the great rivalries in college football (red river shootout, bedlam). Having a chance to add the holy war - which has been reduced to sporadic after decades of annual play because of realignment - is intriguing to say the least

Not every league makes decisions based solely on media $$$
 
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