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Can we please not crucify Tommy for 1 pick.

2017 schedule doesn't seem that bad to me.

at oreg, at psu
home vs ohio st, iowa, wisky

2018...at ohio st, iowa, michigan, and wisky plus sparty at home. that's a tough one.
 
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2017 schedule doesn't seem that bad to me.

at oreg, at psu
home vs ohio st, iowa, wisky

2018...at ohio st, iowa, michigan, and wisky plus sparty at home. that's a tough one.

'18 is more difficult than 17. But the bigger issue is how difficult our schedule is verse other west division teams. Look at Iowas schedule for 17 and 18. They have somehow drawn a 6 yet easy schedule stretch. Unreal.
 
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Im I the only one who notices last year and first 2 games of this year, that on 3rd and short it will always be a pass play. I know Im not the only one, the Ds know it too. They send the house every 3rd down, know it will be a pass. I said it from day one, Riley will not magically change from and average coach to a great one just by coming to Neb. He is who he is as a coach, his habbits and tendencys are set. He will be here 2-4 more years, do average as his past suggests and be replaced by Frost.
And Frost won't do anything either, and would be wasting his time at a school where he would never win more than 9 games according to your ridiculously negative post elsewhere.
 
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Why am I worried about a incompletion. I don't like interceptions. I will admit it was a bad pass if you admit Tommy played a good (borderline great) game. Fair?
Borderline great? He wasn't very good in throwing the ball as usual. The receivers bailed him out quite a bit. You must have watched a different game than me.
 
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'18 is more difficult than 17. But the bigger issue is how difficult our schedule is verse other west division teams. Look at Iowas schedule for 17 and 18. They have somehow drawn a 6 yet easy schedule stretch. Unreal.
Agree.. Scheduling in the B1G is not even close to being fair among it's members. Basically, you have to peak as a team at the right time as you have a semi-favorable schedule. Playing 9 games, just makes it harder on everyone in the league. What they should have done for the divisions, is only count the games within the division toward winning it. That way, if your schedule is loaded with tough opponents from the other division, and you lose a few of those, it doesn't count against your own division foes who might have very light schedules that year.
 
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Borderline great? He wasn't very good in throwing the ball as usual. The receivers bailed him out quite a bit. You must have watched a different games than me.
I watched the same games as you. How is throwing for 377 and 3 touchdowns and running for another not a borderline great game. What is your standard? You also mention his completions not being to standard. Really? Lmao. At some point our fan base has to come back to earth and quit with criticiseing ever play every mistake. This attitude has brought us in and out of coaches for 15 years. Lol. So I watched one of the smartest most experienced NFL QB's throw a pick right to a defender yesterday. Bad read bad throw should have never tossed it. These things happen when there trying to make plays. Bad yes! Earth shattering no. Tommy had a good game Saturday. Enjoy it. Don't pick it apart. It will make your Saturday's much more enjoyable.
 
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I watched the same games as you. How is throwing for 377 and 3 touchdowns and running for another not a borderline great game. What is your standard? You also mention his completions not being to standard. Really? Lmao. At some point our fan base has to come back to earth and quit with criticiseing ever play every mistake. This attitude has brought us in and out of coaches for 15 years. Lol. So I watched one of the smartest most experienced NFL QB's throw a pick right to a defender yesterday. Bad read bad throw should have never tossed it. These things happen when there trying to make plays. Bad yes! Earth shattering no. Tommy had a good game Saturday. Enjoy it. Don't pick it apart. It will make your Saturday's much more enjoyable.
The difference is that you're looking at his stats and I'm looking at his actual performance.
 
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The difference is that you're looking at his stats and I'm looking at his actual performance.
I guess I will have to assume (which I hate doing) that you know absolutely zero about QB play and football. Please don't take it as a knock. Many Nebraska guys are like you. Know nothing and it's very easy to zero in on a play or two a sound smart. All good. Let's agree to disagree. You can't break every record at Nebraska and suck. That's a fact.
 
This debate is pretty simple. TA played great for most of the day and had a huge game statistically throwing the football. However, he made two huge mistakes in the Red Zone throwing one INT that took away a TD and another that should have been a pick-6. The debate is how much stock you put into the two Red Zone errors?
 
This debate is pretty simple. TA played great for most of the day and had a huge game statistically throwing the football. However, he made two huge mistakes in the Red Zone throwing one INT that took away a TD and another that should have been a pick-6. The debate is how much stock you put into the two Red Zone errors?
Agree kinda. I don't worry about hypothetical issues. I would argue that the refs screwed Riley's catch that puts Tommy over 400 yards. One very bad pick. Can't happen. Agree.
 
Agree kinda. I don't worry about hypothetical issues. I would argue that the refs screwed Riley's catch that puts Tommy over 400 yards. One very bad pick. Can't happen. Agree.

Not sure I get the hypotheticals comment. TA made two mistakes in the Red Zone, we shouldn't really pretend like the second one didn't happen because the defender dropped the ball and a sure pick six. Also, not sure how the refs screwed Riley's catch, it clearly hit the ground on the replay.

Again, the debate is simply how much stock you put in two bad Red Zone throws and weather you think that takes away from or overshadows the good. Clearly you think the good outweighs the bad and HuskerPower972 believes the two bad reads equal a poor game. Truth is probably somewhere in between. And for the record I like TA. I think he's a warrior and has willed us to a lot of victories, but he has his flaws and it doesn't look like they are going away.
 
I guess I will have to assume (which I hate doing) that you know absolutely zero about QB play and football. Please don't take it as a knock. Many Nebraska guys are like you. Know nothing and it's very easy to zero in on a play or two a sound smart. All good. Let's agree to disagree. You can't break every record at Nebraska and suck. That's a fact.
I know nothing about football? That's laughable. According to the things I've read from you, you're the one that knows nothing about football. Please don't take it as a knock some people just don't have the capacity to learn the game.
 
Not sure I get the hypotheticals comment. TA made two mistakes in the Red Zone, we shouldn't really pretend like the second one didn't happen because the defender dropped the ball and a sure pick six. Also, not sure how the refs screwed Riley's catch, it clearly hit the ground on the replay.

Again, the debate is simply how much stock you put in two bad Red Zone throws and weather you think that takes away from or overshadows the good. Clearly you think the good outweighs the bad and HuskerPower972 believes the two bad reads equal a poor game. Truth is probably somewhere in between. And for the record I like TA. I think he's a warrior and has willed us to a lot of victories, but he has his flaws and it doesn't look like they are going away.
I don't think he had a poor game, it was OK. Tommy being Tommy.
 
Not sure I get the hypotheticals comment. TA made two mistakes in the Red Zone, we shouldn't really pretend like the second one didn't happen because the defender dropped the ball and a sure pick six. Also, not sure how the refs screwed Riley's catch, it clearly hit the ground on the replay.

Again, the debate is simply how much stock you put in two bad Red Zone throws and weather you think that takes away from or overshadows the good. Clearly you think the good outweighs the bad and HuskerPower972 believes the two bad reads equal a poor game. Truth is probably somewhere in between. And for the record I like TA. I think he's a warrior and has willed us to a lot of victories, but he has his flaws and it doesn't look like they are going away.
I know nothing about football? That's laughable. According to the things I've read from you, you're the one that knows nothing about football. Please don't take it as a knock some people just don't have the capacity to learn the game.
chill dude. Tommy had 377 and 3. Live with it.
 
Not sure I get the hypotheticals comment. TA made two mistakes in the Red Zone, we shouldn't really pretend like the second one didn't happen because the defender dropped the ball and a sure pick six. Also, not sure how the refs screwed Riley's catch, it clearly hit the ground on the replay.

Again, the debate is simply how much stock you put in two bad Red Zone throws and weather you think that takes away from or overshadows the good. Clearly you think the good outweighs the bad and HuskerPower972 believes the two bad reads equal a poor game. Truth is probably somewhere in between. And for the record I like TA. I think he's a warrior and has willed us to a lot of victories, but he has his flaws and it doesn't look like they are going away.
I believe we are on the same page. I just don't put a lot of stock in things that did not happen. The one pick was bad. I he throws a pick six like JT Barrett did vs Hawaii on the first series of OSU game then I would be concerned even more. My thread was simple. Let's not crucify Tommy for the one pick. Hard for some to do apparently.
 
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Lol settle down man. We won. That is my point. Saturday you will be sitting in your recliner and just hoping Tommy messes up. Just so you can feel smart. Weird. How bout cheer him on and enjoy the game.
Don't pretend to know me. I don't root against guys on my team. Us winning is not your point at all. You, OTOH, are not very intelligent and this is my last reply to you.
 
Back to your punter comment. I don't think any freshman punter should be making a call on a fake or not on their own. I also don't think they should ever try to avoid a touchback on a punt. Just catch it and boot the heck out of it in your first year back there...

TA played good. Like someone else mentioned, this past game could've/would've went the other direction last season...

GBR
 
Not sure I get the hypotheticals comment. TA made two mistakes in the Red Zone, we shouldn't really pretend like the second one didn't happen because the defender dropped the ball and a sure pick six. Also, not sure how the refs screwed Riley's catch, it clearly hit the ground on the replay.

Again, the debate is simply how much stock you put in two bad Red Zone throws and weather you think that takes away from or overshadows the good. Clearly you think the good outweighs the bad and HuskerPower972 believes the two bad reads equal a poor game. Truth is probably somewhere in between. And for the record I like TA. I think he's a warrior and has willed us to a lot of victories, but he has his flaws and it doesn't look like they are going away.

He keeps using 'hypothetical' and 'speculation' and I am not sure if he knows what they mean....
 
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Don't pretend to know me. I don't root against guys on my team. Us winning is not your point at all. You, OTOH, are not very intelligent and this is my last reply to you.
Based on what I've read here, I'm not sure I believe that. So if it's not about stats but about "actual performance", would you give him credit if he played well but the stats didn't show it? I doubt that too.
 
Based on what I've read here, I'm not sure I believe that. So if it's not about stats but about "actual performance", would you give him credit if he played well but the stats didn't show it? I doubt that too.
I don't give a rat's ass what you believe. A QB could certainly play well and his receivers could hurt his stats by dropping the ball. However, playing well and Tommy Armstrong don't go hand in hand very often I'm afraid.
 
Everybody wants more consistency (for all positions). But, when they play well we need to acknowledge it. I think everyone understands the "no win" matchups vs. crap teams. You win big...well they weren't any good. You lose...and we suck. Either way, no win...

However, I've long contended that what makes this place special is the high expectations. Is Wyoming D top 25? No...so I get how some fans want to see a good performance against an "elite" D. A great performance has no mistakes and TA did make a couple vs. Wyoming. TA will get his chances to show well vs. Mich St, Wisky, and Ohio St. Save the judgement for after that...

GBR
 
Everybody wants more consistency (for all positions). But, when they play well we need to acknowledge it. I think everyone understands the "no win" matchups vs. crap teams. You win big...well they weren't any good. You lose...and we suck. Either way, no win...

However, I've long contended that what makes this place special is the high expectations. Is Wyoming D top 25? No...so I get how some fans want to see a good performance against an "elite" D. A great performance has no mistakes and TA did make a couple vs. Wyoming. TA will get his chances to show well vs. Mich St, Wisky, and Ohio St. Save the judgement for after that...

GBR
He gets his chance in 5 days! :)
 
Everybody wants more consistency (for all positions). But, when they play well we need to acknowledge it. I think everyone understands the "no win" matchups vs. crap teams. You win big...well they weren't any good. You lose...and we suck. Either way, no win...

However, I've long contended that what makes this place special is the high expectations. Is Wyoming D top 25? No...so I get how some fans want to see a good performance against an "elite" D. A great performance has no mistakes and TA did make a couple vs. Wyoming. TA will get his chances to show well vs. Mich St, Wisky, and Ohio St. Save the judgement for after that...

GBR
Agree wholeheartedly. My post was basic. I wanted us to try to focus on the Good Tommy not dwell on the pick.
 
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