Can we please not crucify Tommy for 1 pick.

[Phantom Husker]

It's not about one pass. Those stats are very misleading. When Tommy throws 5 picks against Ohio State everyone will lose their minds because they'll look back on stats like this game while ignoring the warning signs. Tommy constantly misreads, misfires, under throws, over throws, misses wide open receivers and under performs. Throw in his decision-making and he's lost us more games than he's won us. The stats from today show us 2 things: how good and athletic our WRs are and 2, how horrible their DBs are. I'm really really nervous to face a defense with a pulse until we get a Riley QB in there.

 

[Captain Nick]

Listening to Steve Taylor and several callers. They are really hung up on ONE pass. Yes it was a bad pass. I see NFL QB's do it every week as well. 20-34 for 377 and 3 TD's. I like!!

WHOA!!! SLOW DOWN THERE!!! How are we suppose to show that we're smarter than the coaches if we can't jump all over the most obvious stuff and second guess every decision?

 

[redwine65]

I liked how armstrong seemed to spread his passes around, I know it's tempting to go to good hands westercamp all the time, but he seemed to hit them all today

 

[red rover 70]

I liked how armstrong seemed to spread his passes around, I know it's tempting to go to good hands westercamp all the time, but he seemed to hit them all today

He threw the ball well except for the one horrible decision.

 

[huskerhomie]

I almost forgot. He was screwed on Riley's catch too. Borderline hypothetical but it was a catch. I am now saying he threw for 400 plus.

TA didnt just have one bad throw, he had several. We were lucky that he didnt have more than that one terrible pick, but he had several bad throws. They didnt result in interceptions, but they resulted in incompletions that stalled drives. Our WR's also bailed out TA on a few of the catches they made on some bad passes that he made with some nice catches. He missed targets that any high level D1 QB should be connecting on, especially a 5th year player and 4 year starter should be making. His footwork is still poor, his pocket awareness has also not improved. His decision making in the ZR game has still not improved. Again vs better teams, TA's flaws will be exposed more, they are just not as magnified

It appears to me that TA has not made any progress from last year, and that will become clearer (unless something changes) once we start playing teams that are at higher level than WY and Fresno.

When we start playing teams with tough defenses that are going to stack the box and make TA beat them (ALA like Iowa did last year) we are going to find very tough sledding to win games. That is, unless TA gets more consistent in his game. I just do not see that type of improvement as of yet, and I am not alone, that is why people are ticked about the horrible pass in the Endzone where TA threw the ball to three white jerseys which was horrendous.

 

[HuskerPower972]

Crucify the idiot that called the play. I cannot believe they didn't just run the ball but I should have known better. Langsdorf is just itching to throw. He can't help himself. He continues to forget his QB has a crooked arm and terrible judgement.

We should have had a 28-0 lead if we just run the ball. There was a 2nd and 5 I remember and they have to throw. Run the damn ball!!!!

Should have won a minimum of 10 games last year if we just run the ball.

 

[jeans15]

Apparently our fans don't watch much college football.

 

[Husker Sledge]

It's not about one pass. Those stats are very misleading. When Tommy throws 5 picks against Ohio State everyone will lose their minds because they'll look back on stats like this game while ignoring the warning signs. Tommy constantly misreads, misfires, under throws, over throws, misses wide open receivers and under performs. Throw in his decision-making and he's lost us more games than he's won us. The stats from today show us 2 things: how good and athletic our WRs are and 2, how horrible their DBs are. I'm really really nervous to face a defense with a pulse until we get a Riley QB in there.

Well, guess we don't have a "Riley" QB do we. Good grief, get over it! People need to accept the fact that he's the best we got and just enjoy the damn ballgame. He played great with the exception of that one pick. People should be more focused on these dumb ass penalties than throwing Tommy under the microscope all the time. Especially since we are now +7 in turnovers!

 

[red rover 70]

Well, guess we don't have a "Riley" QB do we. Good grief, get over it! People need to accept the fact that he's the best we got and just enjoy the damn ballgame. He played great with the exception of that one pick. People should be more focused on these dumb ass penalties than throwing Tommy under the microscope all the time. Especially since we are now +7 in turnovers!

I will say most the penalties were questionable IMHO. As I've been throwing around the last 12 hours... Mountain West officiating went all Mountain West officiating.

 

[NikkiSixx]

I think the coaching staff needs to continue to make a big deal about the turnover. They have been stressing the heck out of it, and it's been working. We got one today, I don't want the coaching staff letting up on it. You hold TA accountable and to the wall for it for the rest of the season. If we end the season with only 6 interceptions, they and TA will have done an awesome job. So I still think you make a big deal out of it. Don't forget all the good plays he made today though. He played one heck of a game.

 

[Red I 73]

Let's not forget the almost pick 6 that was dropped. It's not like he made one bad play. He made one horrifically bad play that cost us 7 and he made a few other bad plays that we got lucky that didn't burn us.

I think people were hoping for the 'new and improved Armstrong.' Every year we hear about how he learned to use his check downs or that he learned to throw it away or that he learned to minimize turnovers. That pick just showed that he is the same old up and down, hot and cold, unpredictable QB. Peoples hopes were dashed by that pick. And that is why they are so upset about one throw.

I'm sure you never got lucky. Scott Frost & Nebraska git lucky against Missouri. If that didn't happen, one less national championship for Nebraska. It's part of the game.

 

[red rover 70]

I think the coaching staff needs to continue to make a big deal about the turnover. They have been stressing the heck out of it, and it's been working. We got one today, I don't want the coaching staff letting up on it. You hold TA accountable and to the wall for it for the rest of the season. If we end the season with only 6 interceptions, they and TA will have done an awesome job. So I still think you make a big deal out of it. Don't forget all the good plays he made today though. He played one heck of a game.

I agree 100%.
For the most part Tommy has really played within himself this year. And with all the playmakers we have that's all he really needs to do to be successful.

 

[Antwill]

The light is not going on, folks.

Tommy is going to continue to make the same decisions he has always made. We can hope that he will make fewer bad decisions, but the idea that he is suddenly going to become the QB who doesn't make the bone headed decision ain't gonna happen.

Understand that his poor decision making is going to probably play a major part in costing us a game or two again this year, but also realize that he is the best we got right now and being overly critical of him isn't going to help anything, either.

 

[red rover 70]

2-0 BABY!

 

[GretnaShawn]

I'm sure you never got lucky. Scott Frost & Nebraska git lucky against Missouri. If that didn't happen, one less national championship for Nebraska. It's part of the game.

You're missing the point. Just because It didn't get picked does not make it a good throw/decision.

It was a very poor throw/decision. It should be noteworthy because of how obviously poor it was and how it could have changed the game.

 

[red rover 70]

The light is not going on, folks.

Tommy is going to continue to make the same decisions he has always made. We can hope that he will make fewer bad decisions, but the idea that he is suddenly going to become the QB who doesn't make the bone headed decision ain't gonna happen.

Understand that his poor decision making is going to probably play a major part in costing us a game or two again this year, but also realize that he is the best we got right now and being overly critical of him isn't going to help anything, either.

The defense is really playing solid and that'll help counteract any mistakes Tommy makes. Last year there was no room for error and so every mistake was magnified a hundred fold. This year we might have some breathing room.

 

[red rover 70]

You're missing the point. Just because It didn't get picked does not make it a good throw/decision.

It was a very poor throw/decision. It should be noteworthy because of how obviously poor it was and how it could have changed the game.

I agree. And it really is something how he has total tunnel vision on a play.

 

[Jason R Ward]

It's not about one pass. Those stats are very misleading. When Tommy throws 5 picks against Ohio State everyone will lose their minds because they'll look back on stats like this game while ignoring the warning signs. Tommy constantly misreads, misfires, under throws, over throws, misses wide open receivers and under performs. Throw in his decision-making and he's lost us more games than he's won us. The stats from today show us 2 things: how good and athletic our WRs are and 2, how horrible their DBs are. I'm really really nervous to face a defense with a pulse until we get a Riley QB in there.

Speculation/ hypothetical arguments. I believe he will throw for 300 and 4 TD's vs Ohio St.

 

[Jason R Ward]

The light is not going on, folks.

Tommy is going to continue to make the same decisions he has always made. We can hope that he will make fewer bad decisions, but the idea that he is suddenly going to become the QB who doesn't make the bone headed decision ain't gonna happen.

Understand that his poor decision making is going to probably play a major part in costing us a game or two again this year, but also realize that he is the best we got right now and being overly critical of him isn't going to help anything, either.

Thank you for your positive outlook. Tommy threw for 377 and 3 TD's and ran for 1 TD. A good game by any standard. I believe he play a major part in winning us 8 or 9 games this year.

 

[Jason R Ward]

I agree. And it really is something how he has total tunnel vision on a play.

WHOA!!! SLOW DOWN THERE!!! How are we suppose to show that we're smarter than the coaches if we can't jump all over the most obvious stuff and second guess every decision?

You nailed it. Lol

 

[Jason R Ward]

I agree. And it really is something how he has total tunnel vision on a play.

I was impressed by his arm strength and ability to get out of the pocket and make awesome throws.

 

[Jason R Ward]

You're missing the point. Just because It didn't get picked does not make it a good throw/decision.

It was a very poor throw/decision. It should be noteworthy because of how obviously poor it was and how it could have changed the game.

Speculation. Let's stick to what actually was caught.

 

[GretnaShawn]

Speculation. Let's stick to what actually was caught.

So you're saying it wasn't a bad throw/decision?

 

[Jason R Ward]

So you're saying it wasn't a bad throw/decision?

I'm saying that all quarterbacks make a few bad passes a game. Yet to see a QB be 100% perfect every play every game. Tommy played a great game minus the pick.

 

[GretnaShawn]

I'm saying that all quarterbacks make a few bad passes a game. Yet to see a QB be 100% perfect every play every game. Tommy played a great game minus the pick.

So it was a bad throw and not speculation? Man, you're the king of deflection.

 

[leodisflowers]

Crucify the idiot that called the play. I cannot believe they didn't just run the ball but I should have known better. Langsdorf is just itching to throw. He can't help himself. He continues to forget his QB has a crooked arm and terrible judgement.

We should have had a 28-0 lead if we just run the ball. There was a 2nd and 5 I remember and they have to throw. Run the damn ball!!!!

Should have won a minimum of 10 games last year if we just run the ball.

These guys aren't stupid. It makes it difficult to run when there are 9 guys in the box. It isn't that Langs is "itching" to throw... Mike Riley's best teams where when he had backs that went for 1300-1400 yards. Add in the component of jet sweeps. I suppose you are in the crowd that we need to get 22 kids from Nebraska because we would be better as well?

 

[Jason R Ward]

So it was a bad throw and not speculation? Man, you're the king of deflection.

Why am I worried about a incompletion. I don't like interceptions. I will admit it was a bad pass if you admit Tommy played a good (borderline great) game. Fair?

 

[GaRed]

I have to give him hell because he is a Senior and those are games killers. He cannot get anymore breaks on crap like that. Friggin Stevie Wonder could have known not to throw that pick. There was NOBODY open, no excuses. It was stupidity and must be stopped.

 

[GretnaShawn]

Why am I worried about a incompletion. I don't like interceptions. I will admit it was a bad pass if you admit Tommy played a good (borderline great) game. Fair?

His stats were great. I don't think he played great. I'll take the numbers every week though.

 

[NUSouth]

Overall, he had a decent game, but that was a very costly interception. It kept Wyoming in the game until the end of the 3rd quarter. Last year, it could have been a very different outcome than it was today. Everything you do matters at that level of competition.

My take on that play is what made it so bad was that there were 2 Wyoming defenders between tommy and the receiver on a very short route. If somehow the first defender doesn't catch the ball the 2nd on would have. The Nebraska receiver would have been the 3rd most likely to catch that ball on a 10 yard pass. And it isnt like those 2 defenders came out of nowhere. There were right in the line of the pass. It's a pass most high school QBs would never throw.

As far as all the yardage I give most of the credit to the receivers. Many times the balls are close, but not thrown where they need to be and our receivers make great catches and great runs. See swing pass to newby as a perfect example. Against better pass defenses I don't see that happening.

 

[Jason R Ward]

His stats were great. I don't think he played great. I'll take the numbers every week though.

It's pretty hard to have great stats without playing a great game.

 

[Jason R Ward]

My take on that play is what made it so bad was that there were 2 Wyoming defenders between tommy and the receiver on a very short route. If somehow the first defender doesn't catch the ball the 2nd on would have. The Nebraska receiver would have been the 3rd most likely to catch that ball on a 10 yard pass. And it isnt like those 2 defenders came out of nowhere. There were right in the line of the pass. It's a pass most high school QBs would never throw.

As far as all the yardage I give most of the credit to the receivers. Many times the balls are close, but not thrown where they need to be and our receivers make great catches and great runs. See swing pass to newby as a perfect example. Against better pass defenses I don't see that happening.

So you actually grade Tommy on the completions too. He gets a negative grade if the catch is not perfectly thrown. Interesting.
So you are actually g

My take on that play is what made it so bad was that there were 2 Wyoming defenders between tommy and the receiver on a very short route. If somehow the first defender doesn't catch the ball the 2nd on would have. The Nebraska receiver would have been the 3rd most likely to catch that ball on a 10 yard pass. And it isnt like those 2 defenders came out of nowhere. There were right in the line of the pass. It's a pass most high school QBs would never throw.

As far as all the yardage I give most of the credit to the receivers. Many times the balls are close, but not thrown where they need to be and our receivers make great catches and great runs. See swing pass to newby as a perfect example. Against better pass defenses I don't see that happening.[/QUOTE

 

[SC_'sker]

Tommy didn't play a bad game. That being said, he had some really bad decisions and throws. It really bothers me that he can't throw accurately into the flats and still can't throw a screen pass.

He's not a bad QB but I wouldn't say he's any better than above average. His WR (and Newby) bail him out a lot. Unfortunately, we're going to have to throw a lot this year - it's obvious that other teams want to stack the box and dare us to throw. They must not think he's a good/great QB either.

 

[Jason R Ward]

Tommy didn't play a bad game. That being said, he had some really bad decisions and throws. It really bothers me that he can't throw accurately into the flats and still can't throw a screen pass.

He's not a bad QB but I wouldn't say he's any better than above average. His WR (and Newby) bail him out a lot. Unfortunately, we're going to have to throw a lot this year - it's obvious that other teams want to stack the box and dare us to throw. They must not think he's a good/great QB either.

I observed a couple nice screen pass tosses yesterday. Wyoming did play run. We threw. We blew them out.

 

[huskerhomie]

I observed a couple nice screen pass tosses yesterday. Wyoming did play run. We threw. We blew them out.

Yes the final score indicated that it was a blowout, but we didnt blow them out until the 4th q. Wyoming was hanging around way too late in the game.

Some of those misfires by TA on semi easy completions earlier in the game contributed to WY being able to uang around. As we saw last year these types of mistakes will not fly vs better teams and we ended up losing games because of these types of things.

We wont get as many chances to recover vs better teams on misfires, bad reads, or yolo bombs vs the tougher teams on the sched.

 

[Jason R Ward]

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Yes the final score indicated that it was a blowout, but we didnt blow them out until the 4th q. Wyoming was hanging around way too late in the game.

Some of those misfires by TA on semi easy completions earlier in the game contributed to WY being able to uang around. As we saw last year these types of mistakes will not fly vs better teams and we ended up losing games because of these types of things.

We wont get as many chances to recover vs better teams on misfires, bad reads, or yolo bombs vs the tougher teams on the sched.

I like to stick to reality and facts. Speculation is meaningless. Tommy threw several nice balls. He threw for 377 and 3 TD and ran for another. A great game by any standard. My hypothetical would be that we were screwed on Riley's catch that would have put Touchdown Tommy over 400.

 

[huskerhomie]

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I like to stick to reality and facts. Speculation is meaningless. Tommy threw several nice balls. He threw for 377 and 3 TD and ran for another. A great game by any standard. My hypothetical would be that we were screwed on Riley's catch that would have put Touchdown Tommy over 400.

It is no t speculation that TA missed several easy throws. It is also not speculation that TA's WR's bailed him out on a few balls by catching poorly thrown balls.

It is also not speculation that you want underdogs hanging around on your home turf going into the 4th quarter.

I also do not think it is speculation that our QB needs to clean up stuff or else against better teams it will bite us in the butt. We have seen numerous examples of this with TA over the years, so is that speculation or speaking about previous facts?

 

[husker2612]

Crucify the idiot that called the play. I cannot believe they didn't just run the ball but I should have known better. Langsdorf is just itching to throw. He can't help himself. He continues to forget his QB has a crooked arm and terrible judgement.

We should have had a 28-0 lead if we just run the ball. There was a 2nd and 5 I remember and they have to throw. Run the damn ball!!!!

Should have won a minimum of 10 games last year if we just run the ball.

Im I the only one who notices last year and first 2 games of this year, that on 3rd and short it will always be a pass play. I know Im not the only one, the Ds know it too. They send the house every 3rd down, know it will be a pass. I said it from day one, Riley will not magically change from and average coach to a great one just by coming to Neb. He is who he is as a coach, his habbits and tendencys are set. He will be here 2-4 more years, do average as his past suggests and be replaced by Frost.

 

[jeans15]

How much help did Moore need to score his first TD.....Being chosen to target.

The pass to Westerkamp was the perfect place for the ball...only he could get it.

The pass to Westerkamp on the 2nd TD....He put it on him perfectly, giving him time to slip into the end zone.

Give the man a break.

 

[Jason R Ward]

Im I the only one who notices last year and first 2 games of this year, that on 3rd and short it will always be a pass play. I know Im not the only one, the Ds know it too. They send the house every 3rd down, know it will be a pass. I said it from day one, Riley will not magically change from and average coach to a great one just by coming to Neb. He is who he is as a coach, his habbits and tendencys are set. He will be here 2-4 more years, do average as his past suggests and be replaced by Frost.

I hope your wrong but the facts are the facts. He did only have one 10 win season at OSU. How bout next years schedule? Uggg brutal.