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Brent Venables vs Lincoln Riley

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2 years later, it looks like USC ended up with the better coach.

At this rate, OU won’t make a bowl game unless they really get it together.
 
2 years later, it looks like USC ended up with the better coach.

At this rate, OU won’t make a bowl game unless they really get it together.
There is a reshuffling happening across college football. The old strategies of hoarding talent and using current success, program pedigree, and location aren't AS effective. Teams used to bring in 3 or 4 top 100 players at a position...none of them could easily transfer, and none of them could be easily paid without risk. Now, your starters leave for the NFL after 2 years, your 3rd string transfers for more money or opportunity, which leaves any program thin. There is also a bunch of realignment, which generally leads to shifts in how programs develop players and systems. There is now a priority on spending NIL on the right guy, not giving up on top tier talent just because they have better offers, encouraging guys to skip the NFL in favor of NIL, and keeping young guys from transferring. Some coaches and programs will excel in these areas and won't be the usual characters of the last 15 years. Georgia could reel of 3 straight titles but more likely there could be some really weird champions over the few years as a single injury to a qb could derail a season as there isn't necessarily a 5 star backup like the old days. The most amazing thing last year...wasn't Georgia getting screwed but Alabama not being able to stop the run..something unthinkable in the pre-nil era.
 
Better offensive coach.Venables is the defensive mind,,
Well yeah.

Living in Oklahoma, the popular narrative was “we’re glad Riley is gone, he was never going to win anything anyway”

Venables looks like he should’ve stuck to being Bud Foster 2.0
 
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There is a reshuffling happening across college football. The old strategies of hoarding talent and using current success, program pedigree, and location aren't AS effective. Teams used to bring in 3 or 4 top 100 players at a position...none of them could easily transfer, and none of them could be easily paid without risk. Now, your starters leave for the NFL after 2 years, your 3rd string transfers for more money or opportunity, which leaves any program thin. There is also a bunch of realignment, which generally leads to shifts in how programs develop players and systems. There is now a priority on spending NIL on the right guy, not giving up on top tier talent just because they have better offers, encouraging guys to skip the NFL in favor of NIL, and keeping young guys from transferring. Some coaches and programs will excel in these areas and won't be the usual characters of the last 15 years. Georgia could reel of 3 straight titles but more likely there could be some really weird champions over the few years as a single injury to a qb could derail a season as there isn't necessarily a 5 star backup like the old days. The most amazing thing last year...wasn't Georgia getting screwed but Alabama not being able to stop the run..something unthinkable in the pre-nil era.
This is great for us. Build up a great program that puts players into the NFL, have great team chemistry and culture, a passionate fan base, and good NIL so they can pocket some money. There are not a lot of programs that have all of these things. Location no longer matters. You’re gonna travel if you’re gonna get paid. Oh, and have great academic support so your graduation rate is still high.
 
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I'll repeat what I've said before: today with all the changes in college football when players can easily transfer, a good team culture (supported by NIL) is the strategic advantage for any school. And thankfully, team culture is Rhule's strength. Those key players like Robinson on defense as well as many other key seniors choosing to stay for an extra year are the proof.
 
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There is a reshuffling happening across college football. The old strategies of hoarding talent and using current success, program pedigree, and location aren't AS effective. Teams used to bring in 3 or 4 top 100 players at a position...none of them could easily transfer, and none of them could be easily paid without risk. Now, your starters leave for the NFL after 2 years, your 3rd string transfers for more money or opportunity, which leaves any program thin. There is also a bunch of realignment, which generally leads to shifts in how programs develop players and systems. There is now a priority on spending NIL on the right guy, not giving up on top tier talent just because they have better offers, encouraging guys to skip the NFL in favor of NIL, and keeping young guys from transferring. Some coaches and programs will excel in these areas and won't be the usual characters of the last 15 years. Georgia could reel of 3 straight titles but more likely there could be some really weird champions over the few years as a single injury to a qb could derail a season as there isn't necessarily a 5 star backup like the old days. The most amazing thing last year...wasn't Georgia getting screwed but Alabama not being able to stop the run..something unthinkable in the pre-nil era.
It’s practically mirroring pro football at this point.
 
Well yeah.

Living in Oklahoma, the popular narrative was “we’re glad Riley is gone, he was never going to win anything anyway”

Venables looks like he should’ve stuck to being Bud Foster 2.0
Bud Foster is a great comparison. The difference is I think Bud was super happy to be at DC all those years. Maybe Venables was too and just thought "this is the perfect gig", lord knows it would be hard to turn down that money.
 
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Venables is not the one. I said that when OU lost to Texas 49-0 in 2022. Now, to his credit, he beat UT in 2023, but losing that game in '22 like that just gave me bad vibes about the guy.

Now that they are in the SEC they may be lucky to win six games.
 
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Venables is not the one. I said that when OU lost to Texas 49-0 in 2022. Now, to his credit, he beat UT in 2023, but losing that game in '22 like that just gave me bad vibes about the guy.

Now that they are in the SEC they may be lucky to win six games.
OU fans are fairly delusional.

They wanted Bob Stoops fired before Lincoln Riley saved him by rejuvenating their offense as OC.

Then they claim they wanted Lincoln Riley fired, but in reality acted like a bitter ex gf when he left for a (much better) opportunity.

They completely memory-holed that they were wanting Venables fired when he was DC, and acted like he was Nick Saban when he came to be head coach.

I think Oklahoma has a cool ethos. It’s the little brother to Texas, but it fights like hell to be competitive in the same industries, and truthfully holds its own weight pretty damn well.

But in college football, you’d think their most recent national championship was 5 years ago, not 25. It could get very ugly for them this year.
 
Bud Foster is a great comparison. The difference is I think Bud was super happy to be at DC all those years. Maybe Venables was too and just thought "this is the perfect gig", lord knows it would be hard to turn down that money.
Get some generational money, then fall back on being a defensive coordinator.
 
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OU fans are fairly delusional.

They wanted Bob Stoops fired before Lincoln Riley saved him by rejuvenating their offense as OC.

Then they claim they wanted Lincoln Riley fired, but in reality acted like a bitter ex gf when he left for a (much better) opportunity.

They completely memory-holed that they were wanting Venables fired when he was DC, and acted like he was Nick Saban when he came to be head coach.

I think Oklahoma has a cool ethos. It’s the little brother to Texas, but it fights like hell to be competitive in the same industries, and truthfully holds its own weight pretty damn well.

But in college football, you’d think their most recent national championship was 5 years ago, not 25. It could get very ugly for them this year.
Oklahoma the last 25 years has been one of the top 3 prorams in the country with a winning pct of 0.793 so just because they have only won one national title.

On the other hand the whorns have a winning percentage of 0.693..

OU will have but they have a much more difficult conference schedule than texass..
 
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