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Armstong should be ready against the gophers

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he was running back to the stadium, in good health.
and fife hasn't had near the reps for a second string qb.
I'd say have Armstrong hand off and make quick passes in the first half. then go back to running for the first down as needed in the second half.
we need to finish this season with only 2 defeats. and them would be to pretty solid teams.
remember turner gill had like 4 concussions and he's running a tight ship at liberty.
I think Tommie ball can do it. I give Armstrong a clean bill of health,
playball.

 
Tommy will play ONLY after the medical staff clears him and not a second before
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It's all in their hands right now. If TA is cleared, play him without restrictions. He he isn't new gameplan, built around Fife or Darlington.
 
he was running back to the stadium, in good health.
and fife hasn't had near the reps for a second string qb.
I'd say have Armstrong hand off and make quick passes in the first half. then go back to running for the first down as needed in the second half.
we need to finish this season with only 2 defeats. and them would be to pretty solid teams.
remember turner gill had like 4 concussions and he's running a tight ship at liberty.
I think Tommie ball can do it. I give Armstrong a clean bill of health,
playball.


Glad you aren't coaching my son. You would be spending all of your extra time and money on legal fees.
 
Tommy will play ONLY after the medical staff clears him and not a second before
There is a specific concussion protocol. The doctors that release him if he is still at risk for a second concussion protocol will never release him too soon. From what observed it would be foolish to release a Div-1 athlete back that soon. I would say count on Fife. He Tommy plays in Minn game and gets a second concussion the doctor that released him could lose his license and Tommy would have long term negative changes from the second concussion in that short of time. Just IMO.
 
he was running back to the stadium, in good health.
and fife hasn't had near the reps for a second string qb.
I'd say have Armstrong hand off and make quick passes in the first half. then go back to running for the first down as needed in the second half.
we need to finish this season with only 2 defeats. and them would be to pretty solid teams.
remember turner gill had like 4 concussions and he's running a tight ship at liberty.
I think Tommie ball can do it. I give Armstrong a clean bill of health,
playball.

This does seem like wishful thinking a bit... you can't just say that he seemed good therefore he is good. As others have said there is a protocol to follow that will dictate whether he plays or not. Just saying he looked good will not cut it.

And the argument about TG doesn't help much considering his last concussion occurred over 20 years ago...
 
There is a specific concussion protocol. The doctors that release him if he is still at risk for a second concussion protocol will never release him too soon. From what observed it would be foolish to release a Div-1 athlete back that soon. I would say count on Fife. He Tommy plays in Minn game and gets a second concussion the doctor that released him could lose his license and Tommy would have long term negative changes from the second concussion in that short of time. Just IMO.
How about we not make any speculation unless you have personally examined him? What you observe by watching TV means nothing. Let the doctors do their job and don't try to do it for them. Your observation that it would be foolish to release him is just as meaningless as somebody saying he should be ready to go. I swear there are some people who are hoping he can't go just so you can tell everybody how bad we are going to lose without him.
 
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This used to be the concussion protocol. Thanks alot Ben Omalu.
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he was running back to the stadium, in good health.
and fife hasn't had near the reps for a second string qb.
I'd say have Armstrong hand off and make quick passes in the first half. then go back to running for the first down as needed in the second half.
we need to finish this season with only 2 defeats. and them would be to pretty solid teams.
remember turner gill had like 4 concussions and he's running a tight ship at liberty.
I think Tommie ball can do it. I give Armstrong a clean bill of health,
playball.


Do you go to many practices? Just wondered what you're basing the bolded statement on? Practice reps? Game reps?
 
I swear there are some people who are hoping he can't go just so you can tell everybody how bad we are going to lose without him.

I'm hoping the team I rout for doesn't play it fast and loose with the brain health of a kid I rout for.
I was a little irritated they didn't have someone standing with him when he was back on the sidelines, just to make sure he didn't go wandering off. The kid was knocked out. That's a serious concussion. I don't need to be an MD to understand that. If Riley is thinking of playing him after a week, he better have his lawyer check the morality clause on his contract first.

If they tailor the game around Fyfe, we've got a solid shot. He's not a bad QB; he's just not as good as Tommy. Getting his first meaningful snaps in a year, against the Ohio State defense, on the road, at night, already down, with no running game, a banged up line, and banged up receivers is a tough way to start to his 2016.
 
I'm hoping the team I rout for doesn't play it fast and loose with the brain health of a kid I rout for.
I was a little irritated they didn't have someone standing with him when he was back on the sidelines, just to make sure he didn't go wandering off. The kid was knocked out. That's a serious concussion. I don't need to be an MD to understand that. If Riley is thinking of playing him after a week, he better have his lawyer check the morality clause on his contract first.
Absolutely ridiculous. Doctors are paid to know this stuff. You have no background whatsoever to disagree with it if he is cleared to play. Let the doctors make the decision and stop the armchair medical analysis. I am not of an opinion either way on this. I am letting the doctors make the decision.
 
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Absolutely ridiculous. Doctors are paid to know this stuff. You have no background whatsoever to disagree with it if he is cleared to play. Let the doctors make the decision and stop the armchair medical analysis. I am not of an opinion either way on this. I am letting the doctors make the decision.

Wanna take any bets on how the doctors will address it?
The dude was knocked out.
It's the Fyfe show on Saturday.

This is a message board. It's people typing in arm chairs. Pretend like it's something different if you want.
 
Wanna take any bets on how the doctors will address it?
The dude was knocked out.
It's the Fyfe show on Saturday.

This is a message board. It's people typing in arm chairs. Pretend like it's something different if you want.
I'm saying I don't know and I'm letting the doctors make the decision and not trying to make the decision for them. It's one thing to say what you think is going to happen-it's another entirely to suggest like you did it would be wrong to play him regardless of what the doctors say.
 
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I'm an affordable care health care community organizer. and I feel the general health of the team, will be better with tommie playing his last 3 games. I'm sure he feels the same.
 
Wanna take any bets on how the doctors will address it?
The dude was knocked out.
It's the Fyfe show on Saturday.

This is a message board. It's people typing in arm chairs. Pretend like it's something different if you want.
Ummmm...I know how they handled Tommie Frazier and his blood clots and Brook Berringer and his collapsed lung. I believe they told TF and BB the risks and left the decision in their hands. BTW they both were fine. They played when they probably shouldn't have. I also know some of NU's medical staff now and he'll only be playing if they feel it's safe for him. They'll treat him as if he were their own son.
 
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we are trying to keep premiums low, and we after further review, we concluded fife will not turn into joe ganz. Colorado found their joe ganz.
 
Wanna take any bets on how the doctors will address it?
The dude was knocked out.
It's the Fyfe show on Saturday.

This is a message board. It's people typing in arm chairs. Pretend like it's something different if you want.

You are obviously not trained or have much knowledge on concussions. One that is knocked out can have less severe effects as someone who is not knocked out.
If it is the "fyfe" show on Saturday, they wouldn't have him listed as day to day. The doctors will make the determination on how TA is on Thursday or maybe even Friday and hell, by then it could be a game day decision.
 
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This is pretty straight forward - right? It only becomes Mike Riley's call once TA has been medically cleared.

If he has been cleared and TA or his family doesn't want him to play, that's one thing. It's not like the player or coaches will disregard any protocols in place.
 
Don't even play Tommy. Keep T.A. on the shelf 'till the Iowa game. Fyfe will start but Darlington needs to see significant playing time to prepare him incase he is needed if Fyfe can't go.
 
I say keep him out until the Iowa game and then let Black Friday be an epic battle for 3rd place in the BIG west
 
By the way, Armstrong should have in no way, shape, or form, been jogging an hour afterward if he was in the "concussion protocol." That looked really, REALLY, bad on the Nebraska medical staff, and that's coming from a guy who doesn't give two sh!ts about concussions because of my own history.

Sorry to be a Debbie-Downer, but it looks horrible on Nebraska if he plays on Saturday.
 
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How about we not make any speculation unless you have personally examined him? What you observe by watching TV means nothing. Let the doctors do their job and don't try to do it for them. Your observation that it would be foolish to release him is just as meaningless as somebody saying he should be ready to go. I swear there are some people who are hoping he can't go just so you can tell everybody how bad we are going to lose without him.
Wow. Please read the post again. I have and will never want anything bad to happen to an athlete. I also grew up in a small town in Nebraska and went to UNL. I have been a dedicated Nebraska fan since I can remember. I support this team financially and from every other aspect I can. All I am saying is the protocol will determine the playing decision not hopes of winning a game or games. Please do not question my fan support.

Read about second concussion syndrome on Pubmed, Medline or even google or ask any doctor that deals with contact sports protocols. All I am saying is leave it to the doctors and hope for the best for Tommy he has been and is a warrior for this team. Statistical performance does not determine his level of dedication or love for this team. Sorry if my post was confusion or sent the wrong message. Good luck to Tommy and GBR.
 
By the way, Armstrong should have in no way, shape, or form, been jogging an hour afterward if he was in the "concussion protocol." That looked really, REALLY, bad on the Nebraska medical staff, and that's coming from a guy who doesn't give two sh!ts about concussions because of my own history.

Sorry to be a Debbie-Downer, but it looks horrible on Nebraska if he plays on Saturday.
Agreed.
 
No doctor but if Armstrong indeed does have a bad concussion, seems a very loud and bright stadium would have severely affected him.
 
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By the way, Armstrong should have in no way, shape, or form, been jogging an hour afterward if he was in the "concussion protocol." That looked really, REALLY, bad on the Nebraska medical staff, and that's coming from a guy who doesn't give two sh!ts about concussions because of my own history.

Sorry to be a Debbie-Downer, but it looks horrible on Nebraska if he plays on Saturday.
Keep in mind he was examined by doctors at an OSU hospital-it wasn't just our medical staff. They released him after examining him-are you questioning their medical judgment without examining him yourself?
 
Wow. Please read the post again. I have and will never want anything bad to happen to an athlete. I also grew up in a small town in Nebraska and went to UNL. I have been a dedicated Nebraska fan since I can remember. I support this team financially and from every other aspect I can. All I am saying is the protocol will determine the playing decision not hopes of winning a game or games. Please do not question my fan support.

Read about second concussion syndrome on Pubmed, Medline or even google or ask any doctor that deals with contact sports protocols. All I am saying is leave it to the doctors and hope for the best for Tommy he has been and is a warrior for this team. Statistical performance does not determine his level of dedication or love for this team. Sorry if my post was confusion or sent the wrong message. Good luck to Tommy and GBR.
No, you were not just saying leave it to the doctors in your previous post. You made a judgment about whether he should play based on what you saw on TV-being an armchair doctor who apparently knows exactly what kind of injury he sustained without ever having examined him. I wonder why we play doctors to do this when we have fans who can diagnose a player for free at home and don't ever even have to bother with examining him?
 
I am a doctor and I can tell you that Armstrong does not have a concussion. If you watch closely, and if you have medical experience, you can clearly see that Tommy faints before he hits the ground. You can also read his lips on the cart saying that he couldn't believe that only one Buckeye was tackling him. It caught him by surprise, had a burst of epinephrine from his adrenal gland, and then he fainted. It's not the first time I have seen this happen during a big game.

So look for Tommy to return on Saturday. He is probably too embarrassed to admit to this fainting episode, but hopefully he learns from it and becomes a better QB because of it.

GBR! With a large sarcasm emoji!
 
Keep in mind he was examined by doctors at an OSU hospital-it wasn't just our medical staff. They released him after examining him-are you questioning their medical judgment without examining him yourself?

Assuming they diagnosed him with a concussion...yes I am.
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From his presser:

Riley stressed that he will have no say in Armstrong’s return. If and when the doctors clear him to play, then he’ll play.

“So right now at this point, it is in their hands and their diagnosis and their examination and we wait to get them back,” Riley said. “As soon as a player gets hurt in anyway, I give them to the medical staff and we don’t get them back until they say he is ready to go. So that is actually very comforting
 
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You are obviously not trained or have much knowledge on concussions. One that is knocked out can have less severe effects as someone who is not knocked out.
If it is the "fyfe" show on Saturday, they wouldn't have him listed as day to day. The doctors will make the determination on how TA is on Thursday or maybe even Friday and hell, by then it could be a game day decision.
Got knocked out back in the 70's in a game. Sat out 2 plays. Got the how many fingers am I holding up and how do you feel protocol and played 3 more quarters with zero head ache or later problems. Error on the side of safety but every deal is its own deal.
 
Assuming they diagnosed him with a concussion...yes I am.
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You don't know what the diagnosis was. You are also saying that it was wrong for him to come back to he stadium regardless. I have not heard that from anybody else-give me a doctor's opinion that was wrong, and you might have something. You are saying your armchair medical analysis is better than that of the doctors who examined him. That is the height of arrogance.
 
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