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Am I the only one not sold on DR?

He had a very good year but he looked downright awful at times

I’ll agree not all of it was on him (OC, line, WRs) but I just don’t see a great QB right now

The 2 slides in the 4q yesterday were really dumb
1 late just asking for an injury
1 early when we need a first down to ice the game

I will say that this was the first season in a long time that 3rd and long didn’t seem like an impossible task.
Willing to bet you can find clips of every quarterback in CFB looking bad at times.
 
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That doesn’t make it a bad call. The refs called it as the rule is written. Change the rule I don’t care but in regards to yesterday it was the correct ca

DR15's DAD didn't like the call against his own son?! That's cold. Why wasn't Dominic at the Pinstripe Bowl in person?

***Their careers never overlaped, well I'll be.***
Not DR’s dad. A starter for the Lions from Lincoln Northeast. He didn’t play at Nebraska.
 
Did he look like an all-american? No. But look at the consistencies and the difference from this year compared to the other 8 years. One main difference. DR.
 
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Sure thing he has some baby fat to drop and replace with muscle, but knowing when to pull the ball and snag QB run yardage is either instinctual or a honed skill. As the RB run game improves in the overall, QB run opportunities will increase.
I’m fine with the baby fat. It’s more about not fearing getting hit. He’s a big kid. He could deliver hits on DBs.
 
I’d take him in a heartbeat. He makes quick decisions and is extremely accurate on the shorter passes. He needs to stop tossing up jump balls but that’s something that will be fixed. But, the antics. I know, I know; get off my lawn.
 
So are you saying that Martinez didn't cost Nebraska any games his freshman year, that he was only able to get 4 wins, while Raiola costing his team multiple games was still able to lead them to a bowl game and 7 wins? That is your argument for Martinez having the better season?
He’s separating personal statistical performance from team results. There is a difference. I liked Martinez’s mobility but my eyes tells me his accuracy was poor and he made too many bad decisions. His run threat most definitely helped helped our receivers get open. They’re just completely different players in different offenses. It’s kind of tough with all the variables to think that stats are an accurate way to rank them IMO.

It’s clear they both had pretty good freshman years but neither probably got as much out of their team as they could have. Both had mistakes that likely cost us wins.
 
I seem to remember a LOT more emotional fvckbags in the middle of the season declaring him a loser, a bust , don’t care if he leaves, etc.

They seem to be absent here. He had a pretty good freshman year and has a VERY high ceiling. Some of us knew he just needed to throw short more often and Dana absolutely came in and made that happen.

He’s obviously the guy and will set more records here
Time will tell.......maybe it's the offensive line or lack of? Could be he is a freshman, on the other hand maybe he is just not clutch and good under pressure.
Maybe he is just not that good.
 
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Assuming no injuries, after the 2025 season Raiola will be 4th on the all time Nebraska passing list and finish as the all time passing yardage leader after 3 years. He will have 3 of the top 6 seasons in passing yards for a season, and will be in the top 3 passing TDs after 3 years. IF he stays for 4 years will hold all the records and it won't be close, but I don't think he will stay for the 4th year.
He did attend 3 or 4 high schools.....benefits a successful dad. Nothing wrong with that i had one also..
 
I agree. But AM had less interceptions as a frosh than DR. AM seemed to regress as the years went by but over 600 yards rushing and 8TDs on the ground. DR couldn’t rush for that many yards if he ran it every single play.

DR will be a high draft choice when he leaves. AM wasn’t (either were Gill, Frazier or Crouch) but I’m just pointing out one thing and one thing only - AM had a better Frosh season than DR. People love to hate on AM - but in his freshman year - he was damn good. Top 5-7 Heisman prospect heading into his Sophomore season. But as I said - he regressed for whatever reason.
Adrian had the much better freshman season. That's not hating on Dylan, it's a simple fact. Luckily Dylan had a much better defense that could lead to a bowl game and a winning season.
 
He regressed because his body was increasingly beat to shit because of the physical abuse that comes with being a high use dual threat QB. He could have used an EJ and a Dowdell. Coincidentally, the back that will probably carry the groceries for the next couple of years was recruited by Ron Brown in the short time he coached after Held was cashiered.
No, he regressed because he had no direction under Frost, just like most of the players during that era.
 
No. I ask them “Do you know I post on a board with a man that goes by the alias of Tuco Salamanca?” That usually gets me out of trouble.

Hey - how about that comparison of Humm and Tagge vs Frazier’s passing #s? You gonna look it up or do you want me to? You compared rushing but not passing. I compared both with AM and DR freshman numbers. Looking for an Apples to apples comparison.
You are also not taking into account the 6 lost fumbles and however many other fumbles that Nebraska recovered. You don't get to count the 600 yards and not count the negatives that went along with it.

The whole discussion is apples to oranges anyway. Two different styles of QB, like comparing Mike Vick to Peyton Manning,
 
DR is obviously super talented and was a major upgrade this year. Still has a ways to go but I think people need to realize he is a freshman playing D1 football. If he was in year 2 or 3 I would be more critical. He had some bad games and moments but thats to be expected. We should see major improvements next season.
 
Folks championing AM and he was the most unclutch player in Husker history. Pretty sure he led the planet in total turnovers during his tenure at Nebraska.
If healthy, Dylan is a top 10 NFL pick. DR will likely be an All American in year 2 with DH calling plays and talent all around him. He will be a completely different athlete physically when he gets to camp next year as well. Folks need thank football Jesus every day that he was a product of former Husker semen.
 
DR is obviously super talented and was a major upgrade this year. Still has a ways to go but I think people need to realize he is a freshman playing D1 football. If he was in year 2 or 3 I would be more critical. He had some bad games and moments but thats to be expected. We should see major improvements next season.
Our coaching staff thought it was a good idea to put 100% of this year’s offensive success squarely on his shoulders

If we decide to give him just a little bit of help with any semblance of a running game those bad moments become much fewer and farther between

I’m still astonished by how incredibly stupid our approach to this season offensively was
 
DR had a good season. He did nothing that specifically lost us games, unlike AM (I think he threw a pic to end the UCLA or USC game, cant remember, but we would have needed a lot more after that play to even tie). He failed to hit a couple guys that were open that would have won us some more games. He also had a couple receivers drop TDs that would have won us a couple games. He also had to deal with some stupid special teams play that specifically cost us games.
 
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Our coaching staff thought it was a good idea to put 100% of this year’s offensive success squarely on his shoulders

If we decide to give him just a little bit of help with any semblance of a running game those bad moments become much fewer and farther between

I’m still astonished by how incredibly stupid our approach to this season offensively was
what was the run/pass ratio this year, and what do you think it should have been to make it not incredibly stupid? Or are you just saying, the running plays they ran were stupid because they didnt work?
 
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what was the run/pass ratio this year, and what do you think it should have been to make it not incredibly stupid? Or are you just saying, the running plays they ran were stupid because they didnt work?
We had zero run scheme for the first 9 games of the year.

Zero.

Run/pass ratio for the season was 50/50. Needs to be 55/45 in favor of the run at minimum going forward (was better with DH) and the closer we can get to 60% runs the better.
 
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We had zero run scheme for the first 9 games of the year.

Zero.

Run/pass ratio for the season was 50/50. Needs to be 55/45 in favor of the run at minimum going forward (was better with DH) and the closer we can get to 60% runs the better.

I think in some cases, perception is reality. The play calling and the results were basically the same under Holgersen as it was with Satterfield. I think the difference was that the flow was better and there seemed to be an actual game plan. So that gave the perception that it was different. I do believe that Holgersen will take it to another level in 2025.

USC - Plays 63 - Runs 25 - Passes 38 - 40/60
Wisconsin Plays 74 - Runs 36 - Passes 38 - 49/51
Iowa Plays 76 - Runs 43 - Passes 33 - 57/43
BC (BCU for oldman) Plays 64 - Runs 32 - Passes 32 - 50/50

Totals - Plays 277 - Runs 136 - Passes 141 - 49/51
 
Stats say 448 rushing and 435 passing. Literally right about 50/50.
yep.

we need a 10% (at minimum) shift toward running the ball.

and DR needs to get more comfortable under center this offseason.

we saw a philosophical shift once Dana came in - we started punishing people - and we need to triple down on it
 
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Our coaching staff thought it was a good idea to put 100% of this year’s offensive success squarely on his shoulders

If we decide to give him just a little bit of help with any semblance of a running game those bad moments become much fewer and farther between

I’m still astonished by how incredibly stupid our approach to this season offensively was
Yes and it starts with playing your best rb.. which we will do all season next year
 
Our coaching staff thought it was a good idea to put 100% of this year’s offensive success squarely on his shoulders

If we decide to give him just a little bit of help with any semblance of a running game those bad moments become much fewer and farther between

I’m still astonished by how incredibly stupid our approach to this season offensively was
The entire reason we had a 'good' running game last year was because of HH and the QB run game. Without a mobile QB, that kind of goes out the window with average talent at RB and OL, and below average outside blocking. The running game is a numbers game, and a QB run threat gives you an extra guy to exploit the front 7 of the defense.
 
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I think in some cases, perception is reality. The play calling and the results were basically the same under Holgersen as it was with Satterfield. I think the difference was that the flow was better and there seemed to be an actual game plan. So that gave the perception that it was different. I do believe that Holgersen will take it to another level in 2025.

USC - Plays 63 - Runs 25 - Passes 38 - 40/60
Wisconsin Plays 74 - Runs 36 - Passes 38 - 49/51
Iowa Plays 76 - Runs 43 - Passes 33 - 57/43
BC (BCU for oldman) Plays 64 - Runs 32 - Passes 32 - 50/50

Totals - Plays 277 - Runs 136 - Passes 141 - 49/51
I throw the USC game out since Dana was one week on the job

there was a concerted effort to get the ball out of DR's hands the last 3 games - as there should have been for the entirety of the season
 
AM was a more “exciting” QB with his ability to scramble and run, and that was clearly seen as a true freshman. The excitement around DR is more about arm/accuracy potential that we can see is there, but it didn’t connect often enough down field as a true freshman.

There are two reasons we got more wins with DR than AM as freshmen. One, the 2024 defense kept us in games and won games for us. Two, DR doesn’t turn the ball over like AM did.

Until we upgraded the OC and WR coaches, they were going to have the same curse of poor coaching and player development. If that didn’t change, DR would likely regress and/or transfer. Hopefully that will be better going forward so that we can see DR’s potential realized in games more often.
 
I throw the USC game out since Dana was one week on the job

there was a concerted effort to get the ball out of DR's hands the last 3 games - as there should have been for the entirety of the season
Ok. But even with those numbers thrown out, only the iowa game, a loss, did Holgersen run more than throw. In the two wins it was 50/50. I believe the run game will be more aggressive or with a different attitude than what Satterfield called. The OLine was on its heals under Satt

Remember the end arounds to Barney are passes because the ball is tossed forward.

I am not sure the play calling will be much different ratio wise. Again those plays to Barney, the quick wheel route to the RB that we saw more of, are an extension of the run game.
 
I think in some cases, perception is reality. The play calling and the results were basically the same under Holgersen as it was with Satterfield. I think the difference was that the flow was better and there seemed to be an actual game plan. So that gave the perception that it was different. I do believe that Holgersen will take it to another level in 2025.

USC - Plays 63 - Runs 25 - Passes 38 - 40/60
Wisconsin Plays 74 - Runs 36 - Passes 38 - 49/51
Iowa Plays 76 - Runs 43 - Passes 33 - 57/43
BC (BCU for oldman) Plays 64 - Runs 32 - Passes 32 - 50/50

Totals - Plays 277 - Runs 136 - Passes 141 - 49/51
And who hired that dumbass? And stuck with him.
 
He had a very good year but he looked downright awful at times

I’ll agree not all of it was on him (OC, line, WRs) but I just don’t see a great QB right now

The 2 slides in the 4q yesterday were really dumb
1 late just asking for an injury
1 early when we need a first down to ice the game

I will say that this was the first season in a long time that 3rd and long didn’t seem like an impossible task.
So which true freshman QB by name do you like better?
 
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