Am I the only one not sold on DR?

[Mack In Motion]

I think there was something physically wrong with his arm down the stretch. He was rarely stepping into his throws later in the season, everything seemed to be a touch pass often off his back foot.

At any rate, a big step was taken in the bowl. For the first time, his offense didn't give the ball back at the end when they had the chance to put it away.

The next step needs to be winning a game with a late go ahead score. The Alpha QB's figure out how to make that happen. Been a really long time since we have had one under center that had that mentality. Maybe going back to Armstrong.

 

[SomedayHusker]

I seem to remember a LOT more emotional fvckbags in the middle of the season declaring him a loser, a bust , don’t care if he leaves, etc.

They seem to be absent here. He had a pretty good freshman year and has a VERY high ceiling. Some of us knew he just needed to throw short more often and Dana absolutely came in and made that happen.

He’s obviously the guy and will set more records here

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Assuming no injuries, after the 2025 season Raiola will be 4th on the all time Nebraska passing list and finish as the all time passing yardage leader after 3 years. He will have 3 of the top 6 seasons in passing yards for a season, and will be in the top 3 passing TDs after 3 years. IF he stays for 4 years will hold all the records and it won't be close, but I don't think he will stay for the 4th year.

 

[jteten]

Read the OP and nothing else in the thread. Tell me you’ve watched very little college football in your life without telling me you’ve watched very little college football in your life. Or trolling.

 

[schuele]

I think there was something physically wrong with his arm down the stretch. He was rarely stepping into his throws later in the season, everything seemed to be a touch pass often off his back foot.

At any rate, a big step was taken in the bowl. For the first time, his offense didn't give the ball back at the end when they had the chance to put it away.

The next step needs to be winning a game with a late go ahead score. The Alpha QB's figure out how to make that happen. Been a really long time since we have had one under center that had that mentality. Maybe going back to Armstrong.

I tend to think the over-reliance on touch passes is a bad habit rather than being driven by an injury, and I hope the coaching staff addresses it.

Yesterday it seemed there was some improvement on that front. The TD pass to EJ, for example, was terrific. Used enough touch that it was an easy catch, but enough zip that the ball didn’t take forever to arrive.

 

[GaRed]

He had a very good year but he looked downright awful at times

I’ll agree not all of it was on him (OC, line, WRs) but I just don’t see a great QB right now

The 2 slides in the 4q yesterday were really dumb
1 late just asking for an injury
1 early when we need a first down to ice the game

I will say that this was the first season in a long time that 3rd and long didn’t seem like an impossible task.

 

[dragonraider1]

I had sex with Jane Fonda in Vietnam. After I graduated HS, the CIA then sent me to Latin and South America for regime change by insemination. I was busy as a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest for a few years. Then they "retired' me to Iowa for Johnson R&R.
After six months of abstinence in Iowa they transferred me to Intelligence. I then retired, moved back to Nebraska and raised a family. GBR.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

Raiola had a really good year considering how one dimensional his game is. Adrian kept defensive backs honest with his running ability, which left more open passing.

Satterfield and a lot of the WR’s also didn’t help.

Adrian had Stanley Morgan, JD Spielman, Stoll, Austin Allen, & others.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

A-Mart didn’t have to deal with Satterfield ran offense. AMart had a pretty solid supporting cast too. Stanley Morgan and Stoll still hanging around in the NFL. Oz played a while in the NFL. Dylan needs weapons.

Also AM didn’t go bowling. DR did. So there’s that

Don’t disagree but AM had a better frosh year than DR - no real debating that. Also - Barney and E Johnson will see time in the NFL.

Dylan Frosh:

• Passing: 2,823 yards, 276-of-411 (67.2%) completion, 13 touchdowns, 11 interceptions
• Other: 96 carries, 161 yards, 2 touchdowns

Adrian Frosh:

Martinez finished his freshman season with 2,617 passing yards, 17 passing touchdowns, and eight interceptions. He added 629 rushing yards and eight rushing touchdowns on the ground. He finished sixth in the Big Ten Conference in passing yards and total touchdowns, and was fourth in passer rating.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

I think there was something physically wrong with his arm down the stretch. He was rarely stepping into his throws later in the season, everything seemed to be a touch pass often off his back foot.

At any rate, a big step was taken in the bowl. For the first time, his offense didn't give the ball back at the end when they had the chance to put it away.

The next step needs to be winning a game with a late go ahead score. The Alpha QB's figure out how to make that happen. Been a really long time since we have had one under center that had that mentality. Maybe going back to Armstrong.

I really like his ball placement on the running backs to the sideline. It’s a little thing but they were able to be in full stride by the time the ball got there.

 

[redwine65]

my only problem with our qb is, and my whole problem with the team in general is..not putting games away...
so I can't single out our qb...I can only include him in a larger group that don't have the proper killer instinct so far...
but this can be worked on....

I remember a si article about a game we went up a few scores, and a 3rd team player went in the game then went to the bench, and dr. tom got up in his face about effort.....
these are kinda the finer details but still need addressed...

someone said raiola got hurt midseason, cause he did'nt know how to slide...or did'nt....not sure if this is true or not..
as just fans we don't have all the info on whats going on..so alot of things are educated guessing.....and in a few fans uneducated guessing....

 

[HuskerHusaria]

This thread is inherently a throwaway simp thread. He has already said he is with NU. Pl ase delete this thread

 

[19Football19]

He will play in the NfL. Lots of talent. He didn’t have as good of a frosh year as Martinez but I think he will be one of the top QBs in the country over the next couple of years. Assuming - the OL can block for him.

The sliding? I blame that a bit on the coaches. That last slide (he could have gotten another 4-5 yards) could have cost us the game as it made it 4th down. He needs to know where the marker is and in certain situations (his last slide) he needs to be physical and get as many yards as he can. There are times that he shouldn’t slide at all IMO.

Agree. I think he can be all world but isn’t the athlete people think. If he were on OSU or Georgia or legit team with talent he’d look all world. He can’t improvise enough on his own. If he were throwing to OSU wr he’d look amazing. Wont happen here but I’ll guess a top 10 pick. Sadly we won’t see that again for decades.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Agree. I think he can be all world but isn’t the athlete people think. If he were on OSU or Georgia or legit team with talent he’d look all world. He can’t improvise enough on his own. If he were throwing to OSU wr he’d look amazing. Wont happen here but I’ll guess a top 10 pick. Sadly we won’t see that again for decades.

A lot of our past QBs would have looked better with the scenarios you outline

 

[redwine65]

Agree. I think he can be all world but isn’t the athlete people think. If he were on OSU or Georgia or legit team with talent he’d look all world. He can’t improvise enough on his own. If he were throwing to OSU wr he’d look amazing. Wont happen here but I’ll guess a top 10 pick. Sadly we won’t see that again for decades.

he's alot better then your iowa qb

 

[scarletred]

Agree. I think he can be all world but isn’t the athlete people think. If he were on OSU or Georgia or legit team with talent he’d look all world. He can’t improvise enough on his own. If he were throwing to OSU wr he’d look amazing. Wont happen here but I’ll guess a top 10 pick. Sadly we won’t see that again for decades.

Idiot Out Wondering Around.

 

[inWV]

A lot of our past QBs would have looked better with the scenarios you outline

The rub on Amart was poor decision making when the situation called for the opposite. That became less of an issue for him when he went to the Little Apple. QBs tend to look better on teams where the rest of the offensive players aren’t dicking around. I’d say most of the time this season, Raiola played within himself.

 

[Dean Pope]

A-Mart didn’t have to deal with Satterfield ran offense. AMart had a pretty solid supporting cast too. Stanley Morgan and Stoll still hanging around in the NFL. Oz played a while in the NFL. Dylan needs weapons.

Also AM didn’t go bowling. DR did. So there’s that

Martinez was a better athlete. Dylan is a much better quarterback.

 

[regoratsginrom]

Big big upside.
Very good at short/mid range throws.
High football IQ.
Sounds like a good recruiter for the team.
Needs to work on his body.
Stop copying every mannerism #15 in KC does.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

The rub on Amart was poor decision making when the situation called for the opposite. That became less of an issue for him when he went to the Little Apple. QBs tend to look better on teams where the rest of the offensive players aren’t dicking around. I’d say most of the time this season, Raiola played within himself.

I agree. But AM had less interceptions as a frosh than DR. AM seemed to regress as the years went by but over 600 yards rushing and 8TDs on the ground. DR couldn’t rush for that many yards if he ran it every single play.

DR will be a high draft choice when he leaves. AM wasn’t (either were Gill, Frazier or Crouch) but I’m just pointing out one thing and one thing only - AM had a better Frosh season than DR. People love to hate on AM - but in his freshman year - he was damn good. Top 5-7 Heisman prospect heading into his Sophomore season. But as I said - he regressed for whatever reason.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I agree. But AM had less interceptions as a frosh than DR. AM seemed to regress as the years went by but over 600 yards rushing and 8TDs on the ground. DR couldn’t rush for that many yards if he ran it every single play.

DR will be a high draft choice when he leaves. AM wasn’t (either were Gill, Frazier or Crouch) but I’m just pointing out one thing and one thing only - AM had a better Frosh season than DR. People love to hate on AM - but in his freshman year - he was damn good. Top 5-7 Heisman prospect heading into his Sophomore season. But as I said - he regressed for whatever reason.

As was stated, Martinez played in zero bowl games in 4 years.

224 for 347 64.6% 2617 yards 7.5 per attempt, 17 TD 8 INT 139.5 rating 4 wins.

279 for 411 67.2% 2823 yards 6.9 per attempt 13 TD 11 INT 129.94 rating 7 wins.

 

[Walleye79]

I agree. But AM had less interceptions as a frosh than DR. AM seemed to regress as the years went by but over 600 yards rushing and 8TDs on the ground. DR couldn’t rush for that many yards if he ran it every single play.

DR will be a high draft choice when he leaves. AM wasn’t (either were Gill, Frazier or Crouch) but I’m just pointing out one thing and one thing only - AM had a better Frosh season than DR. People love to hate on AM - but in his freshman year - he was damn good. Top 5-7 Heisman prospect heading into his Sophomore season. But as I said - he regressed for whatever reason.

People love to hate on DR. Did you not see what people were saying about him yesterday. Embarrassing day for Husker nation

 

[Rick.Shaw]

As was stated, Martinez played in zero bowl games in 4 years.

224 for 347 64.6% 2617 yards 7.5 per attempt, 17 TD 8 INT 139.5 rating 4 wins.

279 for 411 67.2% 2823 yards 6.9 per attempt 13 TD 11 INT 129.94 rating 7 wins.

So Dylan had a better year? You can pin a couple of losses directly on him (e.g. Iowa). There was a game (maybe Ohio State) that he overthrew 2 wide open receivers in the end zone. If not - would have been a win. Whatever - DR had a better Frosh season because they went to the Monster Lawn Mower Pinstripe Bowl. AM was an outstanding frosh…not so much the rest of his time in Lincoln.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

As was stated, Martinez played in zero bowl games in 4 years.

224 for 347 64.6% 2617 yards 7.5 per attempt, 17 TD 8 INT 139.5 rating 4 wins.

279 for 411 67.2% 2823 yards 6.9 per attempt 13 TD 11 INT 129.94 rating 7 wins.

So what in those stats (you didn’t include rushing) doesn’t favor AM? There are 22 players on a team. This years team went to a bowl game more from T Rob and Nash’s efforts than the QB. That’s my take.

 

[Walleye79]

So Dylan had a better year? You can pin a couple of losses directly on him (e.g. Iowa). There was a game (maybe Ohio State) that he overthrew 2 wide open receivers in the end zone. If not - would have been a win. Whatever - DR had a better Frosh season because they went to the Monster Lawn Mower Pinstripe Bowl. AM was an outstanding frosh…not so much the rest of his time in Lincoln.

Wins matter. AM never got it done

 

[dinglefritz]

I think I’ll order for some pizza for dinner.

Had brunch at Jams in Omaha this morning. Wonderful! Then supper tonight at Crave in Sioux City. Yummie.

 

[inWV]

I agree. But AM had less interceptions as a frosh than DR. AM seemed to regress as the years went by but over 600 yards rushing and 8TDs on the ground. DR couldn’t rush for that many yards if he ran it every single play.

DR will be a high draft choice when he leaves. AM wasn’t (either were Gill, Frazier or Crouch) but I’m just pointing out one thing and one thing only - AM had a better Frosh season than DR. People love to hate on AM - but in his freshman year - he was damn good. Top 5-7 Heisman prospect heading into his Sophomore season. But as I said - he regressed for whatever reason.

He regressed because his body was increasingly beat to shit because of the physical abuse that comes with being a high use dual threat QB. He could have used an EJ and a Dowdell. Coincidentally, the back that will probably carry the groceries for the next couple of years was recruited by Ron Brown in the short time he coached after Held was cashiered.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

So Dylan had a better year? You can pin a couple of losses directly on him (e.g. Iowa). There was a game (maybe Ohio State) that he overthrew 2 wide open receivers in the end zone. If not - would have been a win. Whatever - DR had a better Frosh season because they went to the Monster Lawn Mower Pinstripe Bowl. AM was an outstanding frosh…not so much the rest of his time in Lincoln.

Better individual season is irrelevant. One led the team to a bowl game and 7 wins, one didn't ever get to a bowl game as a Husker.

Do you really want to go back and count games where you could blame losses directly on Martinez? C'mon

 

[Rick.Shaw]

People love to hate on DR. Did you not see what people were saying about him yesterday. Embarrassing day for Husker nation

I think he will be a starter in the NFL. If I had a criticism at all (which would be very minor)…..I didn’t like him celebrating by himself by going to the crowd when the clock hit 0. Win as a team - celebrate as a team. No need to call attention to yourself. DR has a hell of an arm though. Future first round draft pick.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Better individual season is irrelevant. One led the team to a bowl game and 7 wins, one didn't ever get to a bowl game as a Husker.

Do you really want to go back and count games where you could blame losses directly on Martinez? C'mon

I’m talking freshman year. And the D this year had more say in us getting to a bowl. Wouldn’t you say? You know what. Let’s end the conversation. DR had a better freshman season than AM. Case closed.

 

[Walleye79]

I think he will be a starter in the NFL. If I had a criticism at all (which would be very minor)…..I didn’t like him celebrating by himself by going to the crowd when the clock hit 0. Win as a team - celebrate as a team. No need to call attention to yourself. DR has a hell of an arm though. Future first round draft pick.

Another thing I saw out of DR was as he got fired and his team responded. Am never once had the tangible part of being the QB. And nit picking him celebrating with the fans after the first bowl game win in 8 years are people like you just looking for something to complain about. So weird

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Another thing I saw out of DR was as he got fired and his team responded. Am never once had the tangible part of being the QB. And nit picking him celebrating with the fans after the first bowl game win in 8 years are people like you just looking for something to complain about. So weird

Ok

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Another thing I saw out of DR was as he got fired and his team responded. Am never once had the tangible part of being the QB. And nit picking him celebrating with the fans after the first bowl game win in 8 years are people like you just looking for something to complain about. So weird

Got fired up because a bad call? Wtf?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

So what in those stats (you didn’t include rushing) doesn’t favor AM? There are 22 players on a team. This years team went to a bowl game more from T Rob and Nash’s efforts than the QB. That’s my take.

Lets compare the rushing yards of Tommie Frazier to David Humm or Jerry Taage.

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Lets compare the rushing yards of Tommie Frazier to David Humm or Jerry Taage.

Sure. But AM had similar passing yards, more passing TDs, less interceptions and a higher qb rating than DR as a frosh. Let’s compare those stats between Frazier and Humm and Tagge as well. What do you think they’d show?

 

[weiddj]

As a Freshman he sometimes seemed to lack urgency- could be just because of coaching and team around him. Ha.

Hopefully a full offseason w/Holgo plus better WR play will help. My biggest concern is still OL & running game.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Got fired up because a bad call? Wtf?

Bad call? Time to see an optometrist

 

[Walleye79]

Got fired up because a bad call? Wtf?

Wow you are clueless. This is a bad post. Wtf

 

[Rick.Shaw]

Bad call? Time to see an optometrist

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It was a bad call IMO. Defender started the tackling process and Dylan slid. There was absolutely nothing the defender could do to avoid what happened next. My eyes are fine as is my football IQ.

 

[Walleye79]

It was a bad call IMO. Defender started the tackling process and Dylan slid. There was absolutely nothing the defender could do to avoid what happened next. My eyes are fine as is my football IQ.

Not at all. This shows right here that this can’t be taken seriously