Those charts are from http://www.cornnation.com/2015/10/1...scholarship-2-deep-weep-when-you-look?ref=yfp
A large dose of reality, regarding our 2-deep compared to the nation
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There is no question that walk ons have been a very important part of our program and have contributed significantly to our success. MOST of those guys though have been guys that spent 3-4 years in the system and only played significant roles as 4th year juniors or 5th year seniors. Now we have multiple guys playing or on the 2 deep as underclassmen. That should obviously tell you that our recruiting of scholarship players was not good or that we've been severely hurt by injuries and departures and that is in fact what happened. IMO, Bo was forced to take some guys that had some "issues" in order to try to get enough talent to be competitive. Now they're gone, the guys that are left are banged up and we're paying the price by having to play young walk ons that wouldn't have seen the field this early. The other fact IMO is that a guy like Gangwish (who I love) likely would have been a back up this year IF Moss hadn't had his issues. Dzuris would never have been on the 2 deep. The sheer number of walk ons playing crucial roles is damning to our former staff's recruiting of scholarship players.
I was talking to a buddy of mine about this the other day. Roughly 1/5 of our 2 deep are former walkons. I don't care who your coach is it's difficult to win at a high level with that many former walkons. Even as great as Bill Snyder has been at developing talent, I don't think even he could win at a high level when that large a percentage of his 2 deep is walkons. In this age of scholorship limits, the walkon program is harder to sustain and is not going to draw the same quality player that it may have 20 years ago.
The bottom line here is that the previous guy didn't do us any favors in the recruiting department and we've been forced to fill in the gaps with mediocre talent and mediocre talent is going to cap out at some point, especially when faced with adapting to new styles and schemes. Therefore we get mediocre results.
The bottom line here is that the previous guy didn't do us any favors in the recruiting department and we've been forced to fill in the gaps with mediocre talent and mediocre talent is going to cap out at some point, especially when faced with adapting to new styles and schemes. Therefore we get mediocre results.
One could argue that the scholarship limits in fact mean that there are alot MORE scholarship worthy guys out there available to walk on. Many of those guys would have gotten scholarships to lower tier D-1 programs before the limits but now those D-1 programs are getting better more highly rated talent due to the scholarship limits. So now the choice for some of those guys that might have gotten offers from Wyoming or Iowa State is between going to South Dakota State or walking on. We have had and DO have some good players that were walk ons but the odds of having the number of guys we have contributing right now don't add up.
The Iowa athletic dept also earns millions more in total revenue than Neb, and they have for many years now.
Resources are not a problem at Iowa. Iowa is just not a blue blood and has below average recruiting (at best). Money is the least of their issues.
Quite possible that will change when NU receives a full share. Regardless, who said money is an issue? Sure wasn't me however, I did say Nebraska spends more on recruiting than Io_a, that's a fact supported by many years. Money is only one aspect of resources, there's plenty more to include in that category, which Io_a doesn't come close to Nebraska.
OP Some info I found:
1. MSU has 3 walk ons on their 2 deep: AJ Troup (WR) and their 2 full backs 1st and 2nd string. Trevyn Pendalton, and Lucas Collin. (not surprising most D1 teams are going to have walk ons at their FB spots)
2. Illinois is spot on with 1
3. Iowa, I counted 7 walk ons, but I couldnt find the info on Ferentz? If he is a walk on or a schollie player, so if he is, that is 8, but if he is not a walk on, I got 7 for walk ons for them in their 2 deep.
Here are the guys I ID'd as walk ons on Iowas 2 deep
riley mccarron wr
cole croston
Macon Plewa
Adam Cox
Kyle Terlouw
Bo Bower
Brandon Snyder
And Ferentz, who I could not figure out if he was a walk on or not.
Iowa unlike us is only playing 1 Frosh as a starter.
1. MSU has 3 walk ons on their 2 deep: AJ Troup (WR) and their 2 full backs 1st and 2nd string. Trevyn Pendalton, and Lucas Collin. (not surprising most D1 teams are going to have walk ons at their FB spots)
2. Illinois is spot on with 1
3. Iowa, I counted 7 walk ons, but I couldnt find the info on Ferentz? If he is a walk on or a schollie player, so if he is, that is 8, but if he is not a walk on, I got 7 for walk ons for them in their 2 deep.
Here are the guys I ID'd as walk ons on Iowas 2 deep
riley mccarron wr
cole croston
Macon Plewa
Adam Cox
Kyle Terlouw
Bo Bower
Brandon Snyder
And Ferentz, who I could not figure out if he was a walk on or not.
Iowa unlike us is only playing 1 Frosh as a starter.
I hope you live in a different country otherwise, you should seek help for drinking at 10:50am CST, on a non game day.
