70 team super league ...

[RedCap]

Equivalent support and resources? There's about 6 teams that will always have significantly more resources and support than the rest. Again, Ohio State literally spent $17M just to keep this years roster in tact, not sure of many other teams that can or are even willing to do that:

O$U
Oregon
Texas
Michigan
Tex A&M
Notre Dame
USC

After those, I think the next chunk would be your Bama's, Georgia's, Tennessee, Miami, LSU, Penn St, Nebraska. After that, there's a massive fall off imo which just means again that the rest of the league will always be at a severe disadvantage.

Actually I would now rephrase what is meant by equivalent support to be the amount of total revenue sharing a team can afford to pay its players in light of the House settlement terms. Those teams that can afford the maximum revenue sharing allowed will have a distinct advantage and ought to comprise the "super league" however many teams that is. It won't be 70.

 

[bigboxes]

regardless, this 70-team proposal might be the (next) end game for major college sports. the idea is to bring in the top 70 programs, divide them into tiers based on their value, and sell the product as a package rather than piecemeal as we see today. there would be uneven revenue distribution between tiers based on value.

the proposers forecast the top tier - teams like bama, uga, nd, and tosu - would make more revenue than under their current media contracts. the 70 programs would only play one another. g5 and lower division schools like tulane and boise would theoretically be left out to form their own consortium.

Shhhh... it will be over soon

 

[beaglehusker]

Why are you here, and where were you after the BYU embarrassment. Go back to your own board

 

[Zeke2005]

I work in Boulder and live in Boulder county. I have more personal reasons to want the CU/Deion hype to die a painful death.

Back in the day, we wanted our opponents to do well because that might be needed to get us into the MNC game. With the CFP, maybe those motivations will resurface. This year, we might be able to lose only to OSU to have a chance. But if we also lose to IU, then we would be behind IU, OSU, PSU, and Oregon in the pecking order. Maybe also Illinois. In that case, CU doing well doesn’t help us.

Sorry guess I’m stuck in 2002 and the BCS computer rankings.

 

[Zeke2005]

Who would take K-State?

The Great Plains Athletic Conference in the NAIA

 

[Zeke2005]

There's going to be decent teams that will get left out or may want to not be in the top tier. Look at the best fcs teams. Better than a lot of low fbs teams. 70 is too many.

I agree, should be around 40 or leave all 135ish in it. The tiered system would be garbage as well. Some SEC and Big Ten schools would take a cut in funding. Why would they agree to this?

 

[huskerfan66]

the foundational concept is that football is a national game, second in popularity to the nfl. and that it is most valuable when the largest number of programs are represented across the nation. the 70-team league can then be sold at a premium over what current contracts in the sec and b10 offer. additionally, private equity is willing to pony up $9 billion for the rights which can be used by the programs for title 9, house, olympic sports, and other such costs.

They put in 9 billion. What's in it for them? Why give it to them? The league could pocket that money and use it for what you said

 

[huskerfan66]

I agree, should be around 40 or leave all 135ish in it. The tiered system would be garbage as well. Some SEC and Big Ten schools would take a cut in funding. Why would they agree to this?

If you're going to have a tiered system, wouldn't letting the b1g and $ec do their own thing be the same result? Nobody outside of those conference would be in the top tier of a 70 team super league anyway

 

[AVeritas]

They put in 9 billion. What's in it for them? Why give it to them? The league could pocket that money and use it for what you said

pocket the $9 billion they don't have? this is about selling the rights to a 70-team mega league, nfl lite. the rights have to be sold before the $9 billion is appropriated. the concept is that conferences today do a p'poor job marketing their product. as a whole it would be worth far more than even the top tier teams are receiving today. and someone is willing to put $9 billion on the table to prove that.

 

[AVeritas]

If you're going to have a tiered system, wouldn't letting the b1g and $ec do their own thing be the same result? Nobody outside of those conference would be in the top tier of a 70 team super league anyway

notre dame would certainly be in the top tier, likely clemson and fsu from the acc, perhaps a team or two from the b12 as well, likely byu perhaps cu.

 

[huskerfan66]

pocket the $9 billion they don't have? this is about selling the rights to a 70-team mega league, nfl lite. the rights have to be sold before the $9 billion is appropriated. the concept is that conferences today do a p'poor job marketing their product. as a whole it would be worth far more than even the top tier teams are receiving today. and someone is willing to put $9 billion on the table to prove that.

I don't see the upside. They aren't gifting 9 billion. They want something. If you're broke it makes sense.

 

[huskerfan66]

notre dame would certainly be in the top tier, likely clemson and fsu from the acc, perhaps a team or two from the b12 as well, likely byu perhaps cu.

ND yes I agree. Expansion isn't over but it's close. I don't think clemson or fsu would be top tier in value nor byu

 

[Huskers123456]

pocket the $9 billion they don't have? this is about selling the rights to a 70-team mega league, nfl lite. the rights have to be sold before the $9 billion is appropriated. the concept is that conferences today do a p'poor job marketing their product. as a whole it would be worth far more than even the top tier teams are receiving today. and someone is willing to put $9 billion on the table to prove that.

Your conference might be doing a poor job of marketing but our conference is making money hand over fist.

There is zero incentive for any team in the Big 10 or SEC to deviate from the status quo. Not one. The powerful teams like OSU and Bama don't have a reason to take a chance of upsetting the balance of power. The teams like Maryland or Vandy have zero reasons to take a chance of getting left out in the cold.

 

[AVeritas]

I don't see the upside. They aren't gifting 9 billion. They want something. If you're broke it makes sense.

$9 billion is the immediate upside, plus the additional revenue from selling the product holistically rather than piece mean as done today. if you think a bunch of academics and a.d.s who never saw an mba class can match negotiating wits with venture capitalists, like paul edgerley or mitt romney, you're mistaken.

 

[AVeritas]

Your conference might be doing a poor job of marketing but our conference is making money hand over fist.

There is zero incentive for any team in the Big 10 or SEC to deviate from the status quo. Not one. The powerful teams like OSU and Bama don't have a reason to take a chance of upsetting the balance of power. The teams like Maryland or Vandy have zero reasons to take a chance of getting left out in the cold.

the cases they are laying out says you are completely wrong. the each b10 and sec school in the 70 would see larger returns. otherwise, this would be senseless.

 

[Huskers123456]

the cases they are laying out says you are completely wrong. the each b10 and sec school in the 70 would see larger returns. otherwise, this would be senseless.

It is senseless.... that's why it won't happen.

 

[king_kong_]

Your conference might be doing a poor job of marketing but our conference is making money hand over fist.

There is zero incentive for any team in the Big 10 or SEC to deviate from the status quo. Not one. The powerful teams like OSU and Bama don't have a reason to take a chance of upsetting the balance of power. The teams like Maryland or Vandy have zero reasons to take a chance of getting left out in the cold.

This does a lot of assuming that the status quo will continue

It won’t

Completely unsustainable

Collective bargaining is coming. An overly paired down product won’t return nearly as much as a national one at some point.

I’ve said all along it should be 64 teams. 70 sounds good, too.

Rich will stay rich, don’t worry.

 

[V-Doub]

They put in 9 billion. What's in it for them? Why give it to them? The league could pocket that money and use it for what you said

Whole thing sounds like some sort of corporate socialism to financially level the playing field for about 30 non-SEC/B1G schools. Plus, the B1G and SEC don’t need that corporate money. Why let someone buy a share of your business if you don’t need their investment money and you already own the product everyone wants?

Seems like a ruse to convince the B1G and SEC to hitch themselves to about 30ish programs they don’t want or need. All while financially weakening the B1G and SEC to the benefit of those same 30ish schools. When you have a massive oil reserve on your property, you don’t sell off your land to your competitors. I’m sure there will be many more landscape altering changes in CFB… but this 70 team welfare project for current Big XII and ACC teams is a ridiculous pipe dream.

 

[huskerfan66]

$9 billion is the immediate upside, plus the additional revenue from selling the product holistically rather than piece mean as done today. if you think a bunch of academics and a.d.s who never saw an mba class can match negotiating wits with venture capitalists, like paul edgerley or mitt romney, you're mistaken.

We don't need the 9 billion. Hire/create our own to market. Someone's doing a good job negotiating

 

[V-Doub]

This does a lot of assuming that the status quo will continue

It won’t

Completely unsustainable

Collective bargaining is coming. An overly paired down product won’t return nearly as much as a national one at some point.

I’ve said all along it should be 64 teams. 70 sounds good, too.

Rich will stay rich, don’t worry.

Landscape shifting change will continue. But the B1G and SEC will not participate in anything that weakens them in any way. They drive the boat and they’re not gonna let any third party corporation into the captains chambers. Makes no sense to sell off part our product to a third party that you don’t need to be successful. What am I missing?