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27 dead in a Texas shooting

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I am sure most have heard about this already. But a gunman walked into a Baptist Church near San Antonio and killed 27 with about 30 injured. Police killed the shooter.

This is becoming routine in our country it seems. Not even shocked anymore.
 
I am sure most have heard about this already. But a gunman walked into a Baptist Church near San Antonio and killed 27 with about 30 injured. Police killed the shooter.

This is becoming routine in our country it seems. Not even shocked anymore.

Wow. Been out running around. My wife always questioned why I went armed to chuch when we went. Well, it’s one heck of a soft target. Sad.
 
our parish has hired a police patrol for sundays, and im really thankful for their presence. guess it wont be long before we have a sniper in the steeple.
 
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Wow. Been out running around. My wife always questioned why I went armed to chuch when we went. Well, it’s one heck of a soft target. Sad.
Yup. Always feel nervous sitting in church. One of the only places I don't carry. So much evil in the world. But hey, tragedies make for good agendas.
 
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Businesses are coming BACK to the U.S. Economy was in the dumps the last few years

Huh? Bull market since credit recovery. I agree though, everything looks pretty good for the next couple years...

My point is, during the next recession, things could get ugly. So protect yourself
 
Compromise....you can have all the muskets you want...everything else has to go....too big of a responsibility to be trusted on the populous ...Americans have repeatedly proven to be incapable of responsible gun use
The black market, mafia, cartels all vote - YES!!!
 
Compromise....you can have all the muskets you want...everything else has to go....too big of a responsibility to be trusted on the populous ...Americans have repeatedly proven to be incapable of responsible gun use

On elitists like you can decide what the populace can handle.

99.999% or more of americans do just fine.
 
Compromise....you can have all the muskets you want...everything else has to go....too big of a responsibility to be trusted on the populous ...Americans have repeatedly proven to be incapable of responsible gun use
It doesn't say the right to bear muskets. It says the right to bear arms. For a reason.
Words mean things. Your smug, cute attempt to nullify the 2nd amendment is not only inaccurate, it makes you look stupid.
 
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It doesn't say the right to bear muskets. It says the right to bear arms. For a reason.
Words mean things. Your smug, cute attempt to nullify the 2nd amendment is not only inaccurate, it makes you look stupid.

When was it written? What I think is really stupid is people saying that arming more citizens is a reasonable solution. Even if today's shooter was stopped by an armed citizen 20+ dead people is considered a successful result of that plan. Its guns man ...there will never be any reason for any citizen to have an automatic weapon...NEVER
 
Just waiting on Trump to call white men animals....and logically you have to enforce a travel ban to people from Texas ...just to be consistent
 
Quick question for those of you advocating carrying at places like a church. Say, for example, that the entire congregation felt the same as you and brought their gun to church. Further, let's assume that this guy was sitting in a pew when he stood up and started firing. You then get up and (understandably) try to take him out. Others in the congregation don't see what's going on as quickly and by the time they comprehend the situation, all they see is you and a bunch of other people shooting. Is this really a better situation? How are they supposed to know who is the "bad guy" and who are those trying to do the right thing? What if there are multiple "bad guys" intermixed among "good guys?" What if there are a bunch of innocent, unarmed people around the shooter--are you still going to be shooting at the guy?

My problem with the notion that more armed people equates to more safety is that scenarios like these are unlikely to be as simple as they are portrayed in which there is a clear "bad guy" who is taken out by one person who clearly understands what's going on and shoots an accurate shot in the midst of a crowded facility during what is, by definition, an incredibly traumatic and scary situation. Real life is much more nuanced.
 
Quick question for those of you advocating carrying at places like a church. Say, for example, that the entire congregation felt the same as you and brought their gun to church. Further, let's assume that this guy was sitting in a pew when he stood up and started firing. You then get up and (understandably) try to take him out. Others in the congregation don't see what's going on as quickly and by the time they comprehend the situation, all they see is you and a bunch of other people shooting. Is this really a better situation? How are they supposed to know who is the "bad guy" and who are those trying to do the right thing? What if there are multiple "bad guys" intermixed among "good guys?" What if there are a bunch of innocent, unarmed people around the shooter--are you still going to be shooting at the guy?

My problem with the notion that more armed people equates to more safety is that scenarios like these are unlikely to be as simple as they are portrayed in which there is a clear "bad guy" who is taken out by one person who clearly understands what's going on and shoots an accurate shot in the midst of a crowded facility during what is, by definition, an incredibly traumatic and scary situation. Real life is much more nuanced.
My point for arming citizens was not to incite gunfights. There is nothing more cowardly than walking into a church full of unarmed peaceful people and see how many you can kill before you run out of bullets. If there was even a chance he thought they would shoot back he, as the coward he was would have never considered doing it. And in the scenario you described if a dozen people were killed that would have meant a dozen lives saved in today's mess
 
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