Who was the better Husker QB?
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nothing against TA but he could not hold Fraziers jock strap. I would not put TA in my top 8, just because he filled up the stat sheet doesn't mean he is a top 0 10 qb, he couldn't even throw a 10 yard lob pass.
I had high praise for TA before the start of last season. He is fiercely competitive and has a cannon for an arm. I thought in year two under Langs he would finally show his true potential. I was wrong. He just lacked accuracy as a passer, lacked touch on the short throws, and locked in on his primary receiver all the time. He would not be in my top ten.
This is too difficult to answer. It is not a simple question. I think Taylor was probably more dynamic of a player, but I think Tommy showed more heart. Taylor played far too often when he was hurt. I think Bo was afraid he would transfer if he didn't play him plus he had no back-up for him. Bo never developed a decent back-up for either Taylor or Tommy so when they went down the Huskers were screwed. If Taylor could have played every game like he did against K-State in Manhattan (I believe it was a Thursday night game) it would have been a hell of a ride. Taylor just got hurt too much. I still think Tommy could have been more successful than what he was if he was limited to roll outs and short passes. He was terrible when inside the pocket throwing long.
Martinez was straight up now tell me do you really want to love me forever oh oh oh
or am I caught in a hit and run.
Armstrong was now your dancing feet are always on my couch.
or am I caught in a hit and run.
Armstrong was now your dancing feet are always on my couch.
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From what I've seen in my lifetime I go...
1. Turner Gill
2. Tommie Frazier
3. Eric Crouch
4. Steve Taylor
5. Jerry Tagge
6. Scott Frost
7. Zac Taylor
8. David Humm
9. Gerry Gdowski
10. Vince Ferragamo
1. Turner Gill
2. Tommie Frazier
3. Eric Crouch
4. Steve Taylor
5. Jerry Tagge
6. Scott Frost
7. Zac Taylor
8. David Humm
9. Gerry Gdowski
10. Vince Ferragamo
Here are mine:
Eric crouch
Tommie Frazier
Turner Gill
Scott Frost
Steve Taylor
Jerry Tagge
Dennis Claridge
Gerry Gdowski
David Humm
Vince Ferragamo
Zac Taylor
Joe Ganz
I watched Steve Taylor get happy feet in pretty much every big game, and remember reading stories about OL having to tell him to calm down in the huddle. Nebraska has three qbs primarily responsible for NCs, a Heisman qb beyond that, and Turner Gill, just for starters. Taylor in a top 5 is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
While I know he was blessed with tremendous talent, in more ways than one (I remember the white Honda he drove with its dark windows and gold plating, ahem), and I respect your opinions here, winning big games is a big deal; not his forte, it just didn't often happen.
Not all on him by the by; who can ever forget Switzer running seemingly every option at the all-red-clad walkon jamrog and away from the sandman. Dammit, those losses still hurt.
Opinions, everyone has one.
Tommie Frazier is number one period. The rest of the list can be debated but Nebraska does not get to the championship in 93 and win it in 94/95 without him. Yes he played along with some great talent but he was the difference maker. The fortunes of the Nebraska Football Program changed when he signed with the Huskers and the change to the 4-3 in 1993.
Tommie Frazier was our Michael Jordan. He was a cold hearted assassin on the football field. He demanded respect from every single player on the field. He didn't have problems getting in the faces of the upperclassmen when he was a freshman and telling them to get in line because it was now his team. How soon we forget that many experts believed he should have won the Heisman Trophy after his performance in the Fiesta Bowl against Florida.
Many experts believe he was one of the best if not the best quarterback in the history of college football but some debate his status at Nebraska?
With all due respect to some posters in this thread...to have Tommie Frazier ranked lower than the #1 quarterback at the University of Nebraska is simply ludicrous.
Bleacher Report... #2 Quarterback of All Time
Bleacher Report...#20 College Football Player of All Time
NBC Sports Top Five... #1 Quarterback All Time
Fansided Top 10 Option Quarterbacks #2 All Time
Top College Football Players in the 1990's...#1 in the 1990's
12 Best Players in College Football History to not win the Heisman...Frazier #5
College Football Hall of Fame...Frazier Inducted in 2013
Tommie Frazier was our Michael Jordan. He was a cold hearted assassin on the football field. He demanded respect from every single player on the field. He didn't have problems getting in the faces of the upperclassmen when he was a freshman and telling them to get in line because it was now his team. How soon we forget that many experts believed he should have won the Heisman Trophy after his performance in the Fiesta Bowl against Florida.
Many experts believe he was one of the best if not the best quarterback in the history of college football but some debate his status at Nebraska?
With all due respect to some posters in this thread...to have Tommie Frazier ranked lower than the #1 quarterback at the University of Nebraska is simply ludicrous.
Bleacher Report... #2 Quarterback of All Time
Bleacher Report...#20 College Football Player of All Time
NBC Sports Top Five... #1 Quarterback All Time
Fansided Top 10 Option Quarterbacks #2 All Time
Top College Football Players in the 1990's...#1 in the 1990's
12 Best Players in College Football History to not win the Heisman...Frazier #5
College Football Hall of Fame...Frazier Inducted in 2013
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I agree but not to the degree you say. Berlinger could have plausibly been a two-time NC winner.
But Tommie changed the culture. Nobody else is close. It is not a reasonable argument to say anyone else is the"best qb" in Nebraska history. A pure "best-talent" argument could be made - but winning games has to be part of even that - but Tommie is the best qb in Nebraska history. Might be, ever.
Brook Berringer was an incredible talent and more importantly a phenomenal human being. Thankfully he did earn 2 National Championships at the University of Nebraska.
Crouch wouldn't have had as many carries for that 95 team as he did when he played. If he did he would be in the slot quickly.
Frazier would have pitched the ball in 99-01
A lot of Crouch's option runs were designed keepers where there was no pitchman. The RBs would go and block. Take a look at the game winner against Notre Dame in 2000. Alexander was in front of Crouch blocking at the point of attack. We ran stuff like that just about every other play it felt like
Exactly right. Crouch was overrated at running the option. If he kept it fine, but when it came to pitching it, he hardly was a wizard. Not all his fault though, the RBs were part of the problem. Hence, a good idea to do more designed keepers.
Also, I agree that Frazier was the Michael Jordan of college QBs.
Also, I agree that Frazier was the Michael Jordan of college QBs.
In my years..
1. Tommy Frazier
2. Jerry Tagge
3. Eric Crouch
4. Bob Churchich
5. Vince Ferragamo
6. David Humm
7. Dennis Claridge
8. Zack Taylor
9.Brook Berringer
10. Van Brownson
Too late to count but I forgot Steve Taylor who would belong in middle of this pack. Most forget Churchich but he was one of the biggest leaders ever for NU. Had them positioned twice for title. Held Sugar Bowl passing record for many years. ( Big 8 Batting Champ too )
1. Tommy Frazier
2. Jerry Tagge
3. Eric Crouch
4. Bob Churchich
5. Vince Ferragamo
6. David Humm
7. Dennis Claridge
8. Zack Taylor
9.Brook Berringer
10. Van Brownson
Too late to count but I forgot Steve Taylor who would belong in middle of this pack. Most forget Churchich but he was one of the biggest leaders ever for NU. Had them positioned twice for title. Held Sugar Bowl passing record for many years. ( Big 8 Batting Champ too )
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Couldn't agree more. Crouch was a lone man standing against Miami in the championship game. He was a stud!
I remember Kornheiser saying after the game..."Miami left tire tracks all over the backs of the Nebraska players".
Penny, I don't normally disagree with you that much, but I agree with mel mains Steve Taylor was over rated and if Gerry Godwski had a chance to play more than one year he would easily been one of the top 5 Husker QB's.
Frazier and Gill top 2,Eric Crouch, Jerry Tagge, Scott Frost and Vince Ferragamo round out my best.
I agree that Gerry Gdowski could have been one of the all time greats if he started as many games as some of the Nebraska quarterbacks over the years.
Gdowski had so much more poise than Taylor did. Taylor could make a really big play or a big mistake. Gdowski was more consistent and I thought he made better decisions in his one year as a starter.
Obviously Steve Taylor has better overall statistics than Gdowski considering he started for 3 more years. However, if you want to go by statistics during their senior years...it is clear that Gdowski was more efficient and the better player. I believe these statistics are correct.
I think I am going to watch some games from the 1989 season this weekend. I need to pull out the old VCR.
Steve Taylor 1988 Season...Senior Year
Passing Yards- 1067
NCAA Rating- 121
Touchdown Passes- 11
Interceptions- 7
Rushing Yards- 826 Net (157 Carries)
Yards Per Carry- 5.3
Rushing Touchdowns- 13
Gerry Gdowski 1989 Season...Senior Year
Passing Yards- 1326
NCAA Rating- 177.3
Touchdown Passes- 19
Interceptions- 2
Rushing Yards- 925 Net (117 Carries)
Yards Per Carry- 7.9
Rushing Touchdowns- 13
I think you pointed out TF's greatest asset, LEADERSHIP. I do believe Nebraska has had better QB by definition, but not a better leader.Tommie Frazier is number one period. The rest of the list can be debated but Nebraska does not get to the championship in 93 and win it in 94/95 without him. Yes he played along with some great talent but he was the difference maker. The fortunes of the Nebraska Football Program changed when he signed with the Huskers and the change to the 4-3 in 1993.
Tommie Frazier was our Michael Jordan. He was a cold hearted assassin on the football field. He demanded respect from every single player on the field. He didn't have problems getting in the faces of the upperclassmen when he was a freshman and telling them to get in line because it was now his team. How soon we forget that many experts believed he should have won the Heisman Trophy after his performance in the Fiesta Bowl against Florida.
Many experts believe he was one of the best if not the best quarterback in the history of college football but some debate his status at Nebraska?
With all due respect to some posters in this thread...to have Tommie Frazier ranked lower than the #1 quarterback at the University of Nebraska is simply ludicrous.
Bleacher Report... #2 Quarterback of All Time
Bleacher Report...#20 College Football Player of All Time
NBC Sports Top Five... #1 Quarterback All Time
Fansided Top 10 Option Quarterbacks #2 All Time
Top College Football Players in the 1990's...#1 in the 1990's
12 Best Players in College Football History to not win the Heisman...Frazier #5
College Football Hall of Fame...Frazier Inducted in 2013
Taylor had 8 wins over AP top 12 teams in his career. So he won plenty of big games just maybe not the big OU games (though you can't really the '86 game on him).
I agree 100%. I put Gill at number 1 because of overall skill set. Much better passer than Tommie or Crouch. But the intagables and leadership is what made Tommie special. Let's not forget Crouch led a totally average team in 2001 to the National Championship game (whether deserved of not). That team had no business going 11-2 and probably wouldn't have won 8 or 9 without Crouch. Whether not he was a great option QB is debatable, but he certainly was one of the most explosive playmakers we've ever seen at Nebraska.
Wow. You surmised all that because I rate Taylor 5th?
Step back from the cliff... lol
wait wait wait....
You mean steve taylor, not taylor martinez, right? I had it confused. My bad. Steve taylor can be ranked fifth.
Neither Martinez or Armstrong deserve to be compared to turds, gonorrhea or syphilis.
Sometimes I don't know what the hell is wrong with people.
Sometimes I don't know what the hell is wrong with people.
