I don't disagree with you IF you have 2 capable qbs like Frazier/Berringer. Not sure we have that in these 2. Short leash on turnovers for sims? If like your scenario were down 2 scores and sims turns it over, we're probably down 3 scores.
Who Starts at QB going forward
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Don’t do math well do you? View results not working for you? You are wrong twice. 😂
Haarberg got banged up Saturday. It’s questionable if they’re going to call many zone read options or QB runs if he plays.
Scarlet is a bit of a slow blinker .. I think @Jaemekon lack of using OT broke his brain
Some good reading from the 2021 Ga Tech vs NIU game
Northern Illinois led 14-0 but had a regroup after backup quarterback Jordan Yates, playing after Jeff Sims suffered an arm injury, rallied the Yellow Jackets with three unanswered touchdowns.
So I love it when people say “well it was NIU”, a team Jeff couldn’t move the ball against in 2021 but yet his backup did quite well against.
2020 - 3-7
2021 - 2-5
2022 - 3-4
2023 - 0-2
What a resume. I’m sure none of any of those losses are really on him.
Northern Illinois led 14-0 but had a regroup after backup quarterback Jordan Yates, playing after Jeff Sims suffered an arm injury, rallied the Yellow Jackets with three unanswered touchdowns.
So I love it when people say “well it was NIU”, a team Jeff couldn’t move the ball against in 2021 but yet his backup did quite well against.
2020 - 3-7
2021 - 2-5
2022 - 3-4
2023 - 0-2
What a resume. I’m sure none of any of those losses are really on him.
I’m not sure they’re going to be open about his injury. They were working on his left shoulder before they pulled him. If you listen to Rhule’s presser iMO he hinted that Haarberg is banged up now too. I hope he can go but he needs to be near 100% in the QB run game. That’s our best weapon right now.
He should try out for our QB room, he would fit right in.
Alabama is going to have some QBs in the off-season that need a new situation…
dingle, come on buddy. If HH can't run zone reads, or option, exactly where the hell are the yards gonna come from?
You don't think it wil take 6 offensive plays by us before Michigan figures out HH aint packing the leather today?
Far as I'm concerned the first play should be HH rolling out left or right, depending on the hash, and flipping the ball to Coleman for a reverse. Let's see what a 4.3 guys looks like on the football field.
We may lose 10 yards, or the ball, or he may take it to the house. At any rate, it tells Michigan we are gonna do new shit today.
At one point, I thought maybe you could slip Sims into a game for a series or two, but I don't think I could do that. He's a liability waiting to happen. I would be too worried about an instant turnover. I didn't even like him in there for that 1 play handoff that he also happened to screw up last Saturday.
Part of me thinks it would be safer to roll with Purdy as the backup.. but I guess if HH was out, and you really had no other option, then I guess the decision is already made for you. I just think that kid is a liability on the field. They need to replace his spot in the offseason, so we aren't wasting a scholarship next season.
Part of me thinks it would be safer to roll with Purdy as the backup.. but I guess if HH was out, and you really had no other option, then I guess the decision is already made for you. I just think that kid is a liability on the field. They need to replace his spot in the offseason, so we aren't wasting a scholarship next season.
Contempt? Nah, just don’t choose to dangle from his nuts like a lot of you do. Hit me up when he does something special against a team with a pulse. Keep in mind it’s not like I said HH should kill himself, like your boyfriend Kong said about A Mart. Here’s a post for you, it’s a doozy.
Unlike you, I can change my mind when presented with new data points.. it’s what intelligent people do Todd.
I voted for Sims, it goes against what Rhule preaches if doesn’t give him another shot. If Sims is 100% he has a higher ceiling than HH this season. The odds of winning against MI are razor thin, Sims upside increase those odds slightly. There is almost no way HH beats MI unless the D pitches a shut out and generates 2-3 turnovers.
I'd be curious on why you think Sims has a higher ceiling?
From here on out between Sims and Haarberg, I'd say the QB that is the healthiest starts.
My concern as well. I’m just putting up the caution flag on expectations for him in the run game. Rhule mentioned him “not being able to finish the game”. Saturday. I think he played one series after they were working on his shoulder and I don’t recall any QB runs in that series. We didn’t need to do that so there is that. IF Haarberg isn’t 100% it could severely limit our offense.
Do you think Crouch, Lord, Frost, Frazier, etc were ever 100% heading into game 5 of any season they were the starters? He might be injured to the point where it affects the game plan, or it might be that Rhule was telling the truth when he said "I don't think it's too much" when asked about Haarberg's injury.
Good question.
Here's an interesting thread on Reddit. After the Minnesota game, a Husker fan asked Georgia Tech fans what's up with Sims.
Nobody said "We hate Sims". But there were a lot of interesting takes.
A sampling:
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"Re: Jeff Sims. He’s a freak athlete with a huge arm, shows great in practice. He chokes on game day. If he throws a pick early, he’s done. He’ll have one or two break out games where he’s a stud but just a liability rest of time. He’s a good kid and I feel terrible for him. Fresh start at a new school and got hyped up by outsiders and just to fall on his face like that in game 1, it’s sad."
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"Lots of Tech fans gave up on Sims after he made poor decisions game after game. I don't wish anything bad on him at all, but he's just not that good. He'd have one or two games where he would show flashes of greatness, and I think people like to focus on that, but his consistency is god-awful."
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"It’s frustrating to watch because you can tell that he has all of the physical tools you could ask for in a QB, but when it comes to the mental and execution, he just can’t put it together unfortunately. You just knew he was going to give the defense the ball in critical situations. I really wish the best for him and hope Rhule and his staff can turn him around"
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"The biggest problem with Jeff is his potential. It lures you in. Everyone can see he can be a talented runner and throw strong passes, but he lacks consistency and confidence. This leads him to making poor decisions and staring down receivers."
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"He's always been weirdly good in practice - correct reads, hits deep balls, etc. That's a lot of what coaches see. Plus he's 6'4" with the requisite athleticism. Looks good in shorts, etc......
In games...I think he's just very bad at adjusting on the fly to anything he isn't expecting, and getting out of his head after a pick. His consistency, confidence, ability to just shake it off after a bad play, and in-game processing speeds aren't there for a P5 QB right now IMO.
My guess is that lots of teams vying for him in the portal bet that Geoff was the problem and not Jeff. That's probably not an entirely unreasonable bet, but it may not have been a winning bet either."
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Generally agree.
The only downside to that plan would be if he has a terrible game vs Michigan.
Sometimes, leaving a young player in who is struggling can be cruel.
Rhule and Satterfield know they are not beating Michigan and will start HH. They will let Sims rest and get 100% and start him away on a Friday against Illinois.
Not saying I agree but my gut tells me that they feel aside from the turnovers and and he needs to stop that they feel he can move the ball better JMHO.
Not saying I agree but my gut tells me that they feel aside from the turnovers and and he needs to stop that they feel he can move the ball better JMHO.
this is Haarberg's 3rd year at Nebraska
he's not a young player, he's an inexperienced player
there's no substitute for game experience. none.
Yes, I should have written inexperienced.
I trust Rhule to keep him from getting killed out there in any event.
Imagine this is the plan with accepting a loss to Meatchicken in mind, but then HH goes out and leads the team to an upset victory.
Sims who??
chances are if you voted for sims you never played sports. You just can’t underestimate confidence and stepping up when the lights come on. And it’s not like a switch that will eventually just happen. You can’t lift an extra weight, or take another rep to fix it. Just like some people are never going to run a 4.5, some people are never going to be able to perform in front of alive audience.
Do you think that all of those qbs had more talent around them to help shoulder the load?
Irrelevant question. They were all physical running QB's who got the shit beat out of them on a weekly basis. None of them were ever 100% going into game 5.
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And they all superior talent around them to help shoulder the load. Vastly superior talent, especially upfront.
Thanks Captain Obvious. What's your point that's relevant to whether Haarberg plays Saturday at or below 100%?
Not having any receivers who scare a defense doesn't help. No team we've played has had to respect our receivers, fidone and kemp are the only above average catchers. MI has got some studs and are going to load the box with no fear of getting beat deep.
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