Who are the 3-3-5 DCs out there?
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What Rhule says and what he does are often quite different. Let’s see if we end up with a 3-3-5 guy.
He was Leach’s last DC, right? He and Holgorsen would have a common connection in that way.
analyst at Ole Miss Former DC at Mississippi State and head coach after Leach's untimely death. Good coach. Yes please.
Joe Klanderman K state
Tony Gibson NC State
John Heacock ISU
Tyson Viedt Cinci
Bryan Nardo formerly Ok State
Austin Armstrong UF
Tony Gibson NC State
John Heacock ISU
Tyson Viedt Cinci
Bryan Nardo formerly Ok State
Austin Armstrong UF
"I think what's important to me is I like the way we play defense. I like this defense. I like these fronts. I like the multiplicity of what we did. We did some different things against Iowa which I thought was great so I don't want to switch to something different. I want to do this defense. Whoever that is, I don't want to make that decision for the short term where we all feel good about it. I don't want to make a splashy hire."
I don't see the numbers 3-3-5. My opinion is that people are reading too much into a base defense and thinking it has to be a 3-3-5 coordinator. Why can't it be a 3-3 stack guy or a 4-2-5 guy that can be multiple and drop into a 3-3-5 when needed.
3-3-5 blows! If your front three get no penetration, or your linebackers aren’t gap savvy and over pursue and your DB’s can’t tackle consistently, game over.!
Play the line of scrimmage with 6 (corners cover at LOS) and blitz often enough to not get caught with pants down on a screen..but that’s just my easy chair watching observation.
Play the line of scrimmage with 6 (corners cover at LOS) and blitz often enough to not get caught with pants down on a screen..but that’s just my easy chair watching observation.
Thing I've learned about defense is. Generally the better your players are the more likely you are to be able to play good defense.
With good players we can play 3-4,5-2,4-3, or any other variations. As long as the concepts are sound and players talented most any defense will work.
Gimme a coach who teaches discipline and playing fast in defense. Then put some dudes in there. We would be fine playing anything
Holla
Jay Moore verbalized the same sentiment earlier this week.
Yep. It's called preaching and consistency is not essential. In other words, hypocrisy is forgiven.
Get out of here with that nonsense.
If you say you are a 3-3 stack team that means you only have 3 DL every play and you have 5 DBs every play no matter what the offense has in the game for personnel.
It doesn’t work in the Big 10!!!!
We took our lumps for a couple years when we switched from the 5-2 to the 4-3 until we got enough horses
Go get Jim Leonhard......ex Wisky DC. Conversion from his 3-4 wouldn't be too difficult.
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I run multiple fronts at the HS level all out of a 4-3 base. If Rhule wants to run a 3 man front it can be done by any coordinator worth his salt.
Now if he wants the terminology to be similar then he will need to find someone who has been associated with the TW and or his mentors.
Leanhard would have to be high on the list being considered for DC..
My opinion is that he wants to hire Butler and this DC search is the equivalent of the HC search that brought in Pelini. The decision is already made and has been made since Sept. My feeling too is that Tony White may have already communicated to Rhule he was leaving after this season as early as Sept and the hiring of Butler as DB coach was made with that in mind. What good reason would a guy that was the Bills DC have for taking a position coach job if he didn't already know it was a temporary move?
He wasn't Bills DC. He was DB coach.
And he quit the Bills because they promoted another coach on the staff to DC who was younger and had less tenure.
Disagree - there was angst among the defensive recruits. It would have been extremely simple to bring calm to the situation by announcing Butler if he was the guy. This will absolutely be a legit search IMO.
There had better be an actual job search that considers multiple quality candidates.
Butler showed up at an odd time when most coaches are settled and focused on their season about to start. There was a limited pool of candidates, from which we pulled in Butler. To just hand it to him because he is here is not how Nebraska should operate.
I know Butler wants to be DC, but he has one year of experience and that was a decade ago. That’s basically no DC experience. He comes from the NFL, but college player development is not the same. I think that might explain why the DB room was a weakness this year compared to last.
If Butler is hired as DC, I will have to believe that Rhule was just too soft to make the hard decisions that winners make.
I’m not sure Butler is the right guy. He could be, but we really don’t know much about him. Let’s get the right guy for the right reasons
Yeah. Didn't we kick ass very quickly rolling down OLB to DE and safeties to LB? Thought 93 or so was first year of 4-3.
I thought we made the change after the bowl game at the end of the 90 season vs GT.
So what you are saying is if players don’t execute, there will be breakdowns. Isn’t that true with any defensive system?
My only question is who replaces a guy like Nash in the middle? That’s the biggest issue with running a 3 man front is being able to recruit and develop a 300+ pound NG consistently. That’s my only complaint about any defense is do you have the personnel to run it.
I’m saying that against teams with an offense pulse, QBs that move around in pocket and can run, good Running Backs that cut back against grain a see holes, WRs that get open quickly,…
We don’t match up very well with 3-3-5. Just don’t have the speed, awareness or discipline. In a 4-3 or even 5-2, you don’t have to be quite as quick or gap sound as you’re already where you need to be.
I agree. Even with some of our recent portal departures, we still have some nice talent at DE (RVP, Cam L, Davis), but we are missing that bull in the middle.
Generally even but some formations dictate different alignments
I think we move to a multiple D. 5 down if we play Iowa. 3-3-5 against air raid teams. Then something in the middle for others.
The biggest problem I have with Nebraska's 3-3-5 is we play only three lineman and yet we are not a fast defense. Some say our team speed is actually slow.
