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Coleman got to campus in June of 2023 and was forced into action because of massive injuries to our WRs. He would have redshirted in 2023 if not for that and probably wouldn't have gotten injured.

In 2024, up to mid-season, he still wasn't quite healed yet, and Rhule made a decision to hold him out until he's 100% so he stands a good chance of not aggravating the injury, beginning this whole process over again.

This is in contrast to what Bo Pelini did with Taylor Martinez in 2010. He should have shut him down after the Missouri game, but rather he created a chronic injury situation that eventually cost him his senior year.
This makes sense. They had a plan to get Fidone healthy and it worked. Hopefully this works for Coleman. He got mugged last year. With DR he might be good for 2 or 3 DPI a game.
 
Agree. Some coaches rush guys back and the player never gets right. That was what I was trying to say.
I get it, I am just not sure Coleman's injury was one that required him to be out this long during the season. By most accounts, he was practicing all summer and even through camp. IF they were worried about a nagging injury why would they allow that to occur?
 
I get it, I am just not sure Coleman's injury was one that required him to be out this long during the season. By most accounts, he was practicing all summer and even through camp. IF they were worried about a nagging injury why would they allow that to occur?
Rhule announced the intention to redshirt Coleman before the season even started, right?

Said he needs to develop physically or something of the sort?

I don’t think injury has anything to do with it.
 
I get it, I am just not sure Coleman's injury was one that required him to be out this long during the season. By most accounts, he was practicing all summer and even through camp. IF they were worried about a nagging injury why would they allow that to occur?
No idea. It just seems to make sense since our receiver play has been so bad. I can't think of any other reason to not give him a shot.
 
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The decision to redshirt Coleman wasn’t so much about injury. He is a WR returning with game experience, after a year of tutelage with your staff, who has a special combination of size/atheticism. He shouldn’t redshirt before the season unless he has a season ending injury. But he had more of a nagging injury that was hampering his progress.

There was also talk about a great WR room, and how the portal arrivals were going be big part of the production. Coleman wasn’t progressing. Whatever injury he had seemed like a convenient excuse to hide him for year so he can hopefully work himself back in.

I hope Coleman is a stud WR for us in 2025, 2026. But I am not counting on it.
I think he'll have an impact this Saturday.
 
Rhule announced the intention to redshirt Coleman before the season even started, right?

Said he needs to develop physically or something of the sort?

I don’t think injury has anything to do with it.
Rhule announced after a couple of games that he was redshirting and that he wasn't fully recovered from his injury. Now he's fully recovered and has practiced. He can see the field this week and still redshirt, and I think that's what we're going to see.
 
Rhule announced after a couple of games that he was redshirting and that he wasn't fully recovered from his injury. Now he's fully recovered and has practiced. He can see the field this week and still redshirt, and I think that's what we're going to see.
well, Rhule and 100% of the reporting say different.

it appears you have manufactured this fiction and/or your memory of events that took place a mere 8 weeks ago has deteriorated.

from Sept 2nd:

...the presence of senior transfers Jahmal Banks and Isaiah Neyor has limited Nebraska’s reliance on Coleman as an outside wide receiver.

Coleman would be available to play in an emergency situation, Rhule said, especially if the Huskers were to suffer injuries at the position. For now, though, the Lincoln product is headed for a development season.

“We’re kind of taking the pressure off from him for a little bit and letting him go compete,” Rhule said of Coleman.


injury had nothing to do with it.
 
I get it, I am just not sure Coleman's injury was one that required him to be out this long during the season. By most accounts, he was practicing all summer and even through camp. IF they were worried about a nagging injury why would they allow that to occur?
He didn’t practice in the spring and missed reps that others like Barney got. The depth in the room increased and he ended up behind Bullock, about 8th in the pecking order. I just think they decided to take the year. I don’t know if he has any participation in games this year but he can play the remaining four, plus the bowl.
 
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He didn’t practice in the spring and missed reps that others like Barney got. The depth in the room increased and he ended up behind Bullock, about 8th in the pecking order. I just think they decided to take the year. I don’t know if he has any participation in games this year but he can play the remaining four, plus the bowl.
According to Huskers.com, Coleman has played in one game this year, against Rutgers. If that’s correct, he can play in three of the remaining four games, plus a bowl game if there is one.
Huskers.com
 
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Unfortunately I don’t think Bullock is the answer. Outside of his double block against Purdue, he has been a large part of our perimeter blocking getting blown up on the pass plays at the LOS.
If I never see Bullocks in the game again, it will be too soon. Wouldn’t mind seeing IGC get a few snaps, just to see if he brings anything to the table. I don’t think he’s the answer either, but it might be worth a look.
 
I still can’t let the image of Coleman dogging it last year against Maryland out of my mind. Games on the line, kid gave little effort, hard to root for.
 
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well, Rhule and 100% of the reporting say different.

it appears you have manufactured this fiction and/or your memory of events that took place a mere 8 weeks ago has deteriorated.

from Sept 2nd:

...the presence of senior transfers Jahmal Banks and Isaiah Neyor has limited Nebraska’s reliance on Coleman as an outside wide receiver.

Coleman would be available to play in an emergency situation, Rhule said, especially if the Huskers were to suffer injuries at the position. For now, though, the Lincoln product is headed for a development season.

“We’re kind of taking the pressure off from him for a little bit and letting him go compete,” Rhule said of Coleman.


injury had nothing to do with it.
The kid missed the whole spring and some of the summer with injury. He could have been called on, but he wasn't ready. I'm not sure what your point is. Rhule determined that he's not ready and he didn't need to be because of the other big receivers on the roster.

Do you believe for one second that he was actually ready Game 1 but Rhule choose to sit him out? Really? Sometimes you have to read between the lines and past the coach speak. But you're actually making the case that he's healthy and our best perimeter blocking WR is not playing for some other reason? Really?
 
The kid missed the whole spring and some of the summer with injury. He could have been called on, but he wasn't ready. I'm not sure what your point is. Rhule determined that he's not ready and he didn't need to be because of the other big receivers on the roster.

Do you believe for one second that he was actually ready Game 1 but Rhule choose to sit him out? Really? Sometimes you have to read between the lines and past the coach speak. But you're actually making the case that he's healthy and our best perimeter blocking WR is not playing for some other reason? Really?
Him redshirting had/has nothing to do with injury.

Yes, he was ready physically game 1. Mentally, perhaps not, and I’m not sure he ever will be.
 
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Him redshirting had/has nothing to do with injury.

Yes, he was ready physically game 1. Mentally, perhaps not, and I’m not sure he ever will be.
So what do you know about him mentally? I don't think you know anything.

Don't you think it's altogether possible that since we had to 2 big seniors, Rhule had the luxury of moving him along slowly, getting him ready for the last 4 games of this season, since he missed most of the 2024 off season?

The kid played almost all season last year, got hurt, and had to recover. He didn't do too bad either as a true freshman who arrived on campus 3 months before.

You seem to think that because he's not beating out Nayor and Banks that he's not progressing. Going back to the Marvin Harrison example, you could have made the same case for him not playing as a true freshmen. Harrison must be no good because he couldn't beat out Olave, Wilson, and Smith-Njigba as a true freshman and instead redshirted.
 
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Maybe, but the premise is still the same, next year's starting OL is going to be/ Jrs and Soph, and that is assuming Lutovsky isn't beat out by someone. On the DL with the exception of Jeudy and Butler if they return, the 2 deep is going to be all Soph and Juniors. Now you have 2 classes to bring in high school players and get them up to speed. IF a OL or DL isn't playing until their 4th year, then you haven't done a good enough job recruiting linemen, in my opinion.
Ideally you want an old team. You want guys who could play early but there’s a great benefit to having good players, especially linemen, who get a 5th year. Not very many guys are able to compete consistently as true freshmen. The roster limits are going to make it a little tougher to keep guys around.
 
Rhule announced after a couple of games that he was redshirting and that he wasn't fully recovered from his injury. Now he's fully recovered and has practiced. He can see the field this week and still redshirt, and I think that's what we're going to see.
Notes from DH after the first day DH conducts practice at NU: "They're playing a 6'4" 200+ pound Sr WR who runs round routes, doesn't contest 50/50 balls, can disappear for 2-3 games at a time, has average speed at best, and doesn't like to block. A young kid, 6'4" 200 pound RS FR who is a capable blocker, can contest 50/50 balls, has the speed to take the top off a defense, but doesn't see the field. Neither one seems to have a whole lot of want-to. No wonder this offense sucks."
 
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Ideally you want an old team. You want guys who could play early but there’s a great benefit to having good players, especially linemen, who get a 5th year. Not very many guys are able to compete consistently as true freshmen. The roster limits are going to make it a little tougher to keep guys around.
Talent over age all day every day
 
well, Rhule and 100% of the reporting say different.

it appears you have manufactured this fiction and/or your memory of events that took place a mere 8 weeks ago has deteriorated.

from Sept 2nd:

...the presence of senior transfers Jahmal Banks and Isaiah Neyor has limited Nebraska’s reliance on Coleman as an outside wide receiver.

Coleman would be available to play in an emergency situation, Rhule said, especially if the Huskers were to suffer injuries at the position. For now, though, the Lincoln product is headed for a development season.

“We’re kind of taking the pressure off from him for a little bit and letting him go compete,” Rhule said of Coleman.


injury had nothing to do with it.
Maybe Rhule can develop Malachai into a Jamaal Banks caliber WR. LOL
 
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Talent over age all day every day
Sure but you’re not going to be able to field a 2 deep of “talented” freshmen and sophomores and expect to win. Michigan won a national championship in part because their O line was loaded with 4th and 5th year players. IF you can get talented high schoolers AND keep them around for 4-5 years, your success rate should be greater if you can coach. Nebraska didn’t win titles with freshmen and sophomores.
 
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If I never see Bullocks in the game again, it will be too soon. Wouldn’t mind seeing IGC get a few snaps, just to see if he brings anything to the table. I don’t think he’s the answer either, but it might be worth a look.
Why?!??

When he comes in, you get to see the run game outside the tackles. Sometimes even a bubble screen to the slot!

I get excited when he comes in. I get to predict the play and everyone watching with me thinks I’m genius!

Only question is if I am more excited than the DC of the team we are playing
 
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Don’t know how old you are but Check the depth charts of Nebraska 94-95 and 97 . A ton of Juniors and seniors.
Different time, different rules.

The conversation I was involved in was about redshirting players. You can become a junior and senior without redshirting.

Edit - if you want to talk about 94 and 95 though
Aaron Graham started as a RS sophomore
Zach Wiegert started as a RS sophomore
the other players on the 94 OL started multiple seasons.
 
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Sure but you’re not going to be able to field a 2 deep of “talented” freshmen and sophomores and expect to win. Michigan won a national championship in part because their O line was loaded with 4th and 5th year players. IF you can get talented high schoolers AND keep them around for 4-5 years, your success rate should be greater if you can coach. Nebraska didn’t win titles with freshmen and sophomores.
Again, I am not sure where you are reading that I wrote that you only have to play only freshmen and sophomores. 3rd and 4th year players are still juniors and seniors. You just don't have to redshirt every single player.
 
I get it, I am just not sure Coleman's injury was one that required him to be out this long during the season. By most accounts, he was practicing all summer and even through camp. IF they were worried about a nagging injury why would they allow that to occur?
I agree. There have been other rumors of lack of effort and attitude holding up his progress. These seem to pass the sniff test more than an injury.
 
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