When is it acceptable for Huskers defense to give up 511 yards?
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Better than giving up over 400 yards rushing by one player in only 3 quarters!!! Lol. Give it a rest dude. First game for new staff against a good team. Missing our best LB and starting DB didn't help either. We be fine!
My guess is nobody likes that it happened. My other guess is you don't realize how poorly the prior staff recruited and are in denial about the talent level this staff inherited. When you recruit top 30-35 classes in today's game, this is what you get. We were also missing some pretty important pieces that will be back next game. We were facing arguably the best QB we will face all season, which can and has put up more points and yards on teams with more talent than ours. I think most reasonable CFB fans are coming to the conclusion that today's offenses put up way more yards and points than they are used to seeing. NU will probably never allow less than 10 points a game on average, all season, again. When we had all world Suh, and several NFL bodies in our backfield we had a glimpse of awesomeness, but that isn't likely to happen again. If you're going to harp on the defense, I think it's fair to look at the offense as well, to get the whole picture. We can't run the ball. If our O-line was just a little better, and we could run it and chew the clock a little more, or convert a late 3rd down, then our defense doesn't even take the field and therefore cannot give up any more yardage. Some of the post's since Saturday are beyond embarrassing, people need to give this staff more time than one game before they draw any definitive conclusions.
Answer.....if we win the game who gives a damn. Scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
To answer the question, it's not "acceptable". But, hopefully no one would call it acceptable or expect it to be par for the course. As for the rest of the year, maybe MSU would be the only one, barring some time of meltdown. And I don't expect MSU to put 500+ yards up on us.
The way the board tone is shifting the blame, it sounds like many don't think our players could make any other teams roster in Div 1.
The way the board tone is shifting the blame, it sounds like many don't think our players could make any other teams roster in Div 1.
completely agree ... the talent and depth in this program is alarmingly shallow
I feel very bad for Riley as he is going to bear the responsibility for the current roster deficiencies that he inherited
Bo needed to go and Eichorst recognized the trajectory of the program but a certain part of me wished Bo was here this year to reap what he sowed
unfortunately too many fans are blindly expecting 9+ wins without any clue about the current talent level in this program
"At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." Shawn Eichorst.
Riley should have known exactly what he was getting into. I hope he can turn this thing around soon. The schedule this year is a walk in the park compared to next year. I was hoping he would get off to a great start this year, so that he could get the recruiting momentum established before next year's schedule hits us.
If we continue to stumble this year, I'm not sure if we'll be able to get the recruiting buzz going.
What do you expect him to say Tulsa? Hell, I've told kids walking up to the plate during an important at bat that they are awesome and hit the ball the way they are capable of, all the while thinking to myself.."If he even makes contact I'll be happy".
How about tell the truth...if that is what he really thinks? Pedey had no problem saying it when he canned Frank. Why would you stand at a podium knowing 90% of the people in Nebraska are going to hear your every word and lie?
The reality is that we have players that easily could be as good as any team in the Big Ten sans OSU. BYU is made out to be this great team on this board. They ranked 62, 63, 72, and 67 the last four years.
"If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." Tom Osborne.
Well, that's Tom Osborne when it pertains to Bill Callahan, but not Bo Pelini.
Tom was exactly right about Cally. He should have fired Bo two years earlier. As you well know, there is no argument from me here about whether Bo should have been canned earlier.
Tommy, do you REALLY think Eichorst was telling us that we have 22 starters capable of winning a championship? Really? 22? Orrrrr, is it just possible he was saying what any reasonable professional would say during a difficult speech? Reality is, anyone with half a brain knows we don't have enough players on this current roster capable of winning a championship, doesn't mean we don't have any. You and I both know he wasn't telling us that we have 22 starters capable of winning a championship, and that we would win one as soon as we made a coaching change. So why would you even post what you just did? Only reason I can think of is, trolls never take days off. Deep down, they are always a troll, looking for an opportunity.
You have your head in the sand about BYU. I could also tell you that they had more Rivals 100 and 250 players on the field than Nebraska, but that also doesn't tell the story. If you've truly watched football the last few decades, you'll know full well why BYU was a terrible matchup for Nebraska in the first game. Don't cherry pick your facts to make an assertion.
Your defense is weak. The only trolling is trying again and again and again to lay Saturday's ineptitude all at the feet of our players (Bo's players as some say) and absolve the coaches from any mistakes.
Nobody is saying fire coaches. But the fact that we can't have rational discussions here on this board about the good and bad they did is underwhelming.
I agree entirely here, I am done with all the excuses and justifications on why nu cannot field a decent team. Especially on defense when we see other teams who have not even recruited at our level playing much better defense
Week 1:
Oregon - 549
Tennessee - 557
Texas - 527
Arizona - 525
Wisconsin - 503
Texas Tech - 637
Virginia Tech 572
Tulsa (for Tom!) - 563
Have you all met the modern era of College Football? If not, let me introduce you!
I know many of us want to see NU and MR succeed, but making excuses for the team is not helping anyone.
NU gave Bo 7 years, a lot of you have given Riley one game. Now who isn't being realistic here?
Yes Nebraska has a lot of talent, young talent. Oh, my god how do they lose to a team with recruit rankings in the 60s?
Get away from recruit rankings this is not apples to apples here. While we have young talent, BYU counters with grown men.
http://m.dailyprogress.com/cavalier...ccc-0f78-11e3-b651-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2011/09/byu-has-age-advantage-over-longhorns.html/
Under this line of thinking the USA should have never lost to the Soviet Union in basketball in 1972 and 1988. But they did. Why? Not because they were more talented. Because they were older, more mature, more experienced. If you don't think consistently having a team average about 2 years older than their competition helps even the playing field, then why in the hell do coaches recruit JUCO players?
I swear the inability of some people on this board to accept the fact that mighty Nebraska lost to lowly BYU is just beyond perplexing. Nebraska was damn lucky to not be further down at halftime. Remember their dropped pass?
In 2013 BYU beat Georgia Tech, Boise State, and lost to Wisconsin on the road by 10, which is a hell of a lot better than Nebraska has done in Camp Randall.
In 2012, they aniliated Georgia Tech, on the road. So their lowly 60 some rated classes bitch slapped a power running team coachef by a guy that a lot oF people on this board wanted as the coach here. I guess they were pretty tough.
In 2011 they went on the road and lost to Texas by 1 point. How the hell did that happen? I mean Texas had top 10 classes on their team? Oh and Texas was still decent then.
For some reason I appear to be one of the few who realized that game was going to be tough to win, and didn't expect Nebraska to pull it off. Not because I have an agenda, or don't like Riley, but because I have somewhat of a clue about what is going on.
BYU isnt intimidated. They came in and expected to win. We lost the game. Get the F over it people. Give some credit where credit is due. This is 2015 not 1995.
I don't see it as an excuse pointing out that we lack talent...especially on defense. Look no further than our LB and DE positions. LB, I like our young guys...but we should not have to be relying on true freshman at that position. I do think we have enough talent to win 9 games again...but more than that? I'm not seeing it. Now that our DE walk on is out for 3 weeks we will have to rely on a freshman who was just converted from tight end. It will be an excuse if 2-3 years down the road if this staff did not fill those holes or develop enough talent like the previous staff failed at.
BYU hasn't been ranked at the end of the year in the AP (just for Tim) top 25 since 2009. Jim McMahon hasn't played quarterback for them for over 30 years.
"Dumb", is taking one sentence from an Eichorst speech and using it to justify your position that Riley has already failed as a coach here, which is exactly what you did.
He was right about both coaches but only held one to the same standard. Don't recall you voicing Osborne to fire Pelini in 2012 or sooner. I do recall it post audio-gate.
So then why are Baylor, TCU, Mich St, Wisconsin, Arizona St, Oregon, Minnesota, Boise St any good?
jeans one of the reasons we got a new coach is because teams like the ones you listed have been better than we have in years past, but can you blame Riley for that? The OP asked when is it acceptable to give up 511 yards? Go look up what all those teams you listed give up frequently. Giving up 450-500 yards these days doesn't mean what it used to. I don't like it, but that college football for ya these days. With a healthy QB, and some important defensive starters missing from any of those teams you mentioned, BYU could put up about 500 on a lot of them. Those teams aren't as good defensively as you think, but many have recruited better, and had better staff's prior to Riley's hiring.
Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe (or something like that) his first year at alabama. He must really stink. Bad hire there.
Give him some time
I saw a lot of improvements, it all just has to come together
Give him some time
I saw a lot of improvements, it all just has to come together
Neither was Wisconsin hanging 70 on NU, but you sure liked Pelini regardless.
Do you think if we talk about the offense in another thread you'll be able to stay on topic? Or will you bring up how the defense allowed big play after big play and couldn't contain the QB (Hill or the freshman)?
After losing their QB, I am not sure we're going to get a handle on how good they are. I do know, or at least think, their QB was one of the best we will face this season, and BYU has knocked off a lot bigger names than Nebraska in recent years.
With a healthy Taysom Hill I think they are a top 25 team. While it almost helped us to win the game...it's unfortunate he got hurt because I think they were set up for a very good year.
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