What would fair expectations be for a new coach?

[dinglefritz]

Assuming we fire Miles, what's fair? Miles had to make the NCAA to save his job this year even with Jordy leaving and all the injuries. Does the new coach have to make the NCAA next year? Year 2? Year 3? Anything less than an NCAA berth next year seems like kicking the can down the road to me. With the availability of high quality transfers, we certainly ought to be able to make the tournament in year 2.

 

[HBK4life]

Year 3 tourney. Major rebuild needed. Everyone gone after this year.

 

[dinglefritz]

Year 3 tourney. Major rebuild needed. Everyone gone after this year.

Every player? Well that would be interesting to say the least. How do you field a team? We've got some talent coming back next year and hopefully we can keep the JUCO kid coming in. All a new coach would need to win IMO is a couple of guys for immediate help. If nothing else IMO Thor has proven he can be a role player off the bench. Thomas Allen can score and defend quick guards IF he wants to. IF it is Hoiberg, a couple of guys we haven't seen yet fit perfectly what Hoiberg did at ISU. He would have to find some 6-7 to 6-9 guys who can run a shoot to add to the mix.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

NCAA tourney every 2-3 years. No tourney 3 years in a row is bad.

 

[bleed husker red]

Build a culture.

Have a plan and recruit to it

Represent the state of Nebraska in a prideful way

Treat your players well and those around you

Make it a point to build up Nebraska high school coaching and players.

Win some games, be competitive, and be in the conversation yearly in regards to the NCAA tournament.

Win an NCAA tournament game.

Groom your successor

 

[TruHusker]

Every player? Well that would be interesting to say the least. How do you field a team? We've got some talent coming back next year and hopefully we can keep the JUCO kid coming in. All a new coach would need to win IMO is a couple of guys for immediate help. If nothing else IMO Thor has proven he can be a role player off the bench. Thomas Allen can score and defend quick guards IF he wants to. IF it is Hoiberg, a couple of guys we haven't seen yet fit perfectly what Hoiberg did at ISU. He would have to find some 6-7 to 6-9 guys who can run a shoot to add to the mix.

I understand the general statement "we've got some talent coming back next year" but I really wonder who that is? Started mostly seniors this year with Thomas and Roby the exceptions. Harris came in and played some, not what I would call outstanding and Akenten was suspended. Thor gave some minutes, especially when injuries hit. Miles was very hesitant to use Heiman and he is frankly the only big body (tall) we have.

I think we need to live in reality with this team. The cupboard was stocked for this year, as well as it had been anyway and going forward it does not look good for a while. Who is your point guard? Who are your forwards even if you do play Heiman at center. Who spells him? There is no depth at all.

My guess is you will see several transfers coming in for a year or two at the most just to get the ship in order. Whoever comes in is not coming into a very good situation as near as I can tell. Maybe there is something hiding in the weeds but I can't determine where the talent is.

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

I understand the general statement "we've got some talent coming back next year" but I really wonder who that is? Started mostly seniors this year with Thomas and Roby the exceptions. Harris came in and played some, not what I would call outstanding and Akenten was suspended. Thor gave some minutes, especially when injuries hit. Miles was very hesitant to use Heiman and he is frankly the only big body (tall) we have.

I think we need to live in reality with this team. The cupboard was stocked for this year, as well as it had been anyway and going forward it does not look good for a while. Who is your point guard? Who are your forwards even if you do play Heiman at center. Who spells him? There is no depth at all.

My guess is you will see several transfers coming in for a year or two at the most just to get the ship in order. Whoever comes in is not coming into a very good situation as near as I can tell. Maybe there is something hiding in the weeds but I can't where the talent is.

IMHO, there may be a little more talent on the roster than what it might seem on the surface. The biggest thing - pun intended - is no big, other than Roby. (I expect him to return, but he will be more impactful if he does not have to play the 5 position). Roby and Allen are known commodities, and with a different coach and scheme they have the ability to take a step up in production. The transfer, Burke, can be the 3rd scorer. Since he is sitting out this year, that is conjecture. If Jervay Green stays committed, that is the 4th scorer. So, theoretically, there is a possibility of doing OK in regard to the top 3-4 in point production.

Harris, Thorir, and Akenton are decent role players - in the right situation. Harris and Thor showed what they could do when forced into action. Personally, I thought they should have been given more minutes all year long. Heiman has potential. Gotta gain some bulk. He was one player I thought could have provided more help, but for some reason he got lost once B1G play started. When we hit our early season losing streak I don't think Miles had the ability to take a chance on him. Karrington was out all year with an injury. Not sure what he can provide. Supposed to have offensive skills.

We have the potential to be a decent offensive team, which will keep us competitive. Hard to see where we can get rebounds and play half-court defense. Without a big coming in, it wouldn't surprise me to see a very aggressive defensive scheme and full-court pressure most of the game.

 

[huskerfan66]

First round NCAA tournament victory next year. Basketball quicker rebuild than FB

 

[husker2612]

Assuming we fire Miles, what's fair? Miles had to make the NCAA to save his job this year even with Jordy leaving and all the injuries. Does the new coach have to make the NCAA next year? Year 2? Year 3? Anything less than an NCAA berth next year seems like kicking the can down the road to me. With the availability of high quality transfers, we certainly ought to be able to make the tournament in year 2.

No expectation first year. Rebuilding, getting everyone on the same page ect ect.... I think year 2 should be a bubble team and at least in the conversation of tourney. Year 3 a tourney birth should be expected.

 

[Top_Gun_]

IMHO, there may be a little more talent on the roster than what it might seem on the surface. The biggest thing - pun intended - is no big, other than Roby. (I expect him to return, but he will be more impactful if he does not have to play the 5 position). Roby and Allen are known commodities, and with a different coach and scheme they have the ability to take a step up in production. The transfer, Burke, can be the 3rd scorer. Since he is sitting out this year, that is conjecture. If Jervay Green stays committed, that is the 4th scorer. So, theoretically, there is a possibility of doing OK in regard to the top 3-4 in point production.

Harris, Thorir, and Akenton are decent role players - in the right situation. Harris and Thor showed what they could do when forced into action. Personally, I thought they should have been given more minutes all year long. Heiman has potential. Gotta gain some bulk. He was one player I thought could have provided more help, but for some reason he got lost once B1G play started. When we hit our early season losing streak I don't think Miles had the ability to take a chance on him. Karrington was out all year with an injury. Not sure what he can provide. Supposed to have offensive skills.

We have the potential to be a decent offensive team, which will keep us competitive. Hard to see where we can get rebounds and play half-court defense. Without a big coming in, it wouldn't surprise me to see a very aggressive defensive scheme and full-court pressure most of the game.

this is what Stockholm Syndrome looks like^^^^

 

[nwualum]

Have more than one offensive play ready each game.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

To win.

 

[dinglefritz]

To win.

Win how much? Tourney game? .500 in conference? .500 over all technically is a winning season.

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

this is what Stockholm Syndrome looks like^^^^

Is that good or bad? I've never been to Sweden to know.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

At some point we actually need to build a team with quality players that can come off the bench. The downfall of Miles was not having any shooters and not having anyone outside the starting 5 that is worth a shit. Don't bring up Johnny Trueblood or others as they are not legit D1 players on good teams.

 

[scarletred]

Win how much? Tourney game? .500 in conference? .500 over all technically is a winning season.

C’mon you know what he means.. just better the 0.500 like TM isn’t what we want..

 

[Husker4real]

I feel like Nebraska should be a bubble team 4 out of every 5 years. NCAA 2 or 3 of those, NIT (yuck) 1-2 - and only when the team is young and inexperienced. 1 out of every 5 years the perfect storm hits and they miss the post-season.

 

[newAD]

Assuming we fire Miles, what's fair? Miles had to make the NCAA to save his job this year even with Jordy leaving and all the injuries. Does the new coach have to make the NCAA next year? Year 2? Year 3? Anything less than an NCAA berth next year seems like kicking the can down the road to me. With the availability of high quality transfers, we certainly ought to be able to make the tournament in year 2.

I can't really answer what I think is fair to an potential new coach until we see what the roster is going to be like next year. It could be a brutal year.

 

[Bill_Callahan2.0]

Burke might not be here come August, and that’s a bummer because he might be the best scorer we have on roster.

 

[dinglefritz]

At some point we actually need to build a team with quality players that can come off the bench. The downfall of Miles was not having any shooters and not having anyone outside the starting 5 that is worth a shit. Don't bring up Johnny Trueblood or others as they are not legit D1 players on good teams.

Trueblood has proven that he was a legit role bench player at NU. Starter? Probably not, but the kid can play. If anything, Trueblood should have played more over the past 2 years.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Assuming we fire Miles, what's fair? Miles had to make the NCAA to save his job this year even with Jordy leaving and all the injuries. Does the new coach have to make the NCAA next year? Year 2? Year 3? Anything less than an NCAA berth next year seems like kicking the can down the road to me. With the availability of high quality transfers, we certainly ought to be able to make the tournament in year 2.

The reality is the less we pay on a coach the more can be put into football, I am not in favor of overspending to win a tournament game when even a final 4 appearance doesn't move the dial in terms of revenue. If we can pay in the bottom half of the sport...and still win 20 games every 3 years, then we are doing it right. Fans go to the games for the atmosphere, and because it is nebraska and there isn't anything else to do...the worse thing to do is to pretend like overspending is going to fix a program that has never won. No decent player wants to play at NU without being damaged goods or underrated.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Simple. Within five years:
-only first year can be losing season, (but there shouldnt even be one.)
-finish in top half of the BIG at least three times
-at least two NCAA tourney apearances.
-one NCAA tournament win, or at least 3 births if there is no win.


Obviously its hard to know everything that could possibly happen...for example if we come out and make an elite 8 in year five but thats our only ncaa appearance then you still keep him. Or if first two years are losing then you rattle off three straight ncaa appearances with a few wins, you keep him. Odds of these hypothetical things happening are nil, though.

The goal is to show consistent growth and improvement and actual ncaa tourney appearances and wins, not the constant "next year...oh wait that happened...so next year!" we had with miles 7 years in.

 

[artguy68]

As if Nebraska basketball is in the position to say, "do this or else". Coach roulette does not work. You give a coach enough time to build a program, and after several years it will become obvious if it is not working out. Fire after one, two, or even three years from a program that has never had a winning history? Recruits seeing that the coach may get fired after such a short time ensures that this program will never go anywhere.

 

[ZJSARENOTFREE]

Trueblood has proven that he was a legit role bench player at NU. Starter? Probably not, but the kid can play. If anything, Trueblood should have played more over the past 2 years.

He is a legit bench player because we are bad, and have no depth, but we will know that we actually have a decent basketball team when guys of his caliber are probably the very last guy off the bench. In my eyes, JT would not even make most of the top 25 teams. That is where I think we should strive to be, but it is NU basketball we are talking about.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

First round NCAA tournament victory next year. Basketball quicker rebuild than FB

Well considering Nebraska has never accomplished an NCAA Tournament victory, that’d be more of a build than a rebuild.

 

[huskerfan66]

Well considering Nebraska has never accomplished an NCAA Tournament victory, that’d be more of a build than a rebuild.

We've had the talent. Get the right coach and a couple players and we'll be fine

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

Assuming we fire Miles, what's fair? Miles had to make the NCAA to save his job this year even with Jordy leaving and all the injuries. Does the new coach have to make the NCAA next year? Year 2? Year 3? Anything less than an NCAA berth next year seems like kicking the can down the road to me. With the availability of high quality transfers, we certainly ought to be able to make the tournament in year 2.

Have a .500 record in year 1 (depends if we can find a big in the grad transfer market), in the NCAA discussion in year 2, but most likely make the NIT. Then year 3 we should make the NCAAs. Years 4-8 should be evenly split between the NCAA and NIT (with an occasional "blip" of a season when everything that can go wrong does go wrong).

 

[JohnRossEwing]

My expectations are are hard to define...it is like porn...I can't define it but I know what it is when I watch it (and I watch a lot of it)

 

[TravisWalker]

Sweet 16 next year!

 

[Hoosker Du]

First of all...to look remarkably like Fred Hoiberg. Secondly...to coach remarkably like Fred Hoiberg.

The rest will take care of itself.

He has some of the best facilities in the nation to recruit to. He has great college success and can help players get to the next level. Did I mention the rest will take care of itself?

 

[CameronKrazie86]

Please god let us have a watchable offensive system. That's all I really hope for with whoever is hired. Hopefully Nebraska can become a frequent tournament contender but really I just want to have a watchable product.

 

[huskerfan66]

Moos echoes my post above.

 

[mmunso7]

Sweet 16 next year!

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