What is the over under?

[Toms Wife]

Took your advice and checked the ratings. Guess what? Oregon's average of 22 over 5 years is better than Nebraska's average of 25 over 5 years. How many points is home field advantage good for?

Now I definitely see why we should have no trouble with Oregon next year in their back yard. Never mind the fact that we went from 6-7 to 9-4 in one year... no way Oregon could go from 4-8 to a respectable season with a win over Nebraska.

Tom, you really ought to quit... you're gonna lose this one because you're argument has too many holes. The argument is that a win at Oregon isn't a given. But you are saying it absolutely should be. Based on the talent and home field advantage argument, and assuming the coaches can come in and capture the team buy-in from the start, Oregon could easily emerge from that game with a victory. Not to mention Nebraska is breaking in a new QB and a new defensive system with 3 new coaches on defense as well... Why is it so hard to admit that this is a possibility, and maybe a strong one at that?

I guess we're moving goal posts, huh tom? It must be hard not to be able to use the same idioms when you were tom, now that you're masquerading as Tom's wife...

Goodness, gracious. Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska is saying, "Yep, Nebraska might not win because they have a couple new coaches" while Oregon has a whole new staff? Seriously?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at the recruiting rankings thinks, "Oregon is a way more talented team than the Huskers"?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at Oregon thinks, "A freshman qb at Oregon who started a handful of games last year and went 2-5 ought to be way better than a highly rated qb starting at Nebraska"?

Have you been spending a lot of time "enjoying" Colorado recently?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Goodness, gracious. Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska is saying, "Yep, Nebraska might not win because they have a couple new coaches" while Oregon has a whole new staff? Seriously?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at the recruiting rankings thinks, "Oregon is a way more talented team than the Huskers"?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at Oregon thinks, "A freshman qb at Oregon who started a handful of games last year and went 2-5 ought to be way better than a highly rated qb starting at Nebraska"?

Have you been spending a lot of time "enjoying" Colorado recently?

Yes.

 

[Toms Wife]

Yes.

Yikes...if this is what people think about our qbs, we better go find someone else.

 

[timnsun]

Goodness, gracious. Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska is saying, "Yep, Nebraska might not win because they have a couple new coaches" while Oregon has a whole new staff? Seriously?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at the recruiting rankings thinks, "Oregon is a way more talented team than the Huskers"?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at Oregon thinks, "A freshman qb at Oregon who started a handful of games last year and went 2-5 ought to be way better than a highly rated qb starting at Nebraska"?

Have you been spending a lot of time "enjoying" Colorado recently?

Tom,

Yes, I do think people outside of Nebraska look at Oregon and think they have a more talented team than Nebraska. Absolutely I believe that. The fact that you don't testifies to who's smoking something in Colorado, and it isn't me.

They were in the playoffs 3 years ago, went 2-3 versus top 25 teams 2 years ago, with two of those losses in overtime or by 3 to a top 10 Michigan State team. The reason for their dropoff last year wasn't a lack of talent, it was coaching.

Do people even remember the last time Nebraska was final 4 material? When was the last time Nebraska won a conference championship? Here's a hint... it hasn't even happened this century yet. How many conference championships does Oregon have in that time? Do you seriously, no, I mean seriously, believe the garbage you just passed off in this post? Do you really believe people outside of Nebraska thinks Oregon doesn't have better talent than Nebraska?

Since you're a stat man, here you go... last 5 years, Oregon is 15-7 versus top 25 opponents. Nebraska is 4-12 during that same span. I will share with you that these records occurred against teams currently in the top 25 at the time the game was played... so for example, Oregon last year was 22 when we played them, they count as a victory for us. Take that game out, we are 3-12. Frankly, I don't have the time to search for end of year rankings, if you want to do that be my guest.

Come on back for another whooping if you want, but unlike you I am bringing tangible evidence that shows Oregon is a better team than Nebraska these last 5 years.

And for the last time, remember what the argument is we are discussing here. You contend Nebraska should have no trouble with Oregon at all this fall, and I (and everybody else in this thread I might add) are saying it isn't a gimme, that Oregon will be a tough opponent and not an automatic victory.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Oregon still has athletes and playing on the road with Nebraska breaking in a new QB and a new defensive system. I don't see how this game is anything but questionable at this time.

Amazing that we expect other teams to improve but never us, always excuses for nebraska.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Tom,

Yes, I do think people outside of Nebraska look at Oregon and think they have a more talented team than Nebraska. Absolutely I believe that. The fact that you don't testifies to who's smoking something in Colorado, and it isn't me.

They were in the playoffs 3 years ago, went 2-3 versus top 25 teams 2 years ago, with two of those losses in overtime or by 3 to a top 10 Michigan State team. The reason for their dropoff last year wasn't a lack of talent, it was coaching.

Do people even remember the last time Nebraska was final 4 material? When was the last time Nebraska won a conference championship? Here's a hint... it hasn't even happened this century yet. How many conference championships does Oregon have in that time? Do you seriously, no, I mean seriously, believe the garbage you just passed off in this post? Do you really believe people outside of Nebraska thinks Oregon doesn't have better talent than Nebraska?

Since you're a stat man, here you go... last 5 years, Oregon is 15-7 versus top 25 opponents. Nebraska is 4-12 during that same span. I will share with you that these records occurred against teams currently in the top 25 at the time the game was played... so for example, Oregon last year was 22 when we played them, they count as a victory for us. Take that game out, we are 3-12. Frankly, I don't have the time to search for end of year rankings, if you want to do that be my guest.

Come on back for another whooping if you want, but unlike you I am bringing tangible evidence that shows Oregon is a better team than Nebraska these last 5 years.

And for the last time, remember what the argument is we are discussing here. You contend Nebraska should have no trouble with Oregon at all this fall, and I (and everybody else in this thread I might add) are saying it isn't a gimme, that Oregon will be a tough opponent and not an automatic victory.

You expect to beat them though, right?
They did go 4-8 last year and they do have a whole new staff. We should be improving....honestly this is getting crazy. But maybe you do expect to win and im reading this wrong.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You expect to beat them though, right?
They did go 4-8 last year and they do have a whole new staff. We should be improving....honestly this is getting crazy. But maybe you do expect to win and im reading this wrong.

Not to speak for anyone, but the argument is that Oregon is a guaranteed win because they had a subpar season and replaced their whole staff. The question was never if anyone thought Nebraska would win, just that this wouldn't be a walkover. Oregon still has talent and the game is in Eugene.

I simply believe that at this point in time, Nebraska can't look past any opponent.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Not to speak for anyone, but the argument is that Oregon is a guaranteed win because they had a subpar season and replaced their whole staff. The question was never if anyone thought Nebraska would win, just that this wouldn't be a walkover. Oregon still has talent and the game is in Eugene.

I simply believe that at this point in time, Nebraska can't look past any opponent.

But you expect us to win and losing would be a disappointment?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

But you expect us to win and losing would be a disappointment?

I expect Nebraska to win every game and disappointed when they lose.

I am however objective enough to realize that Nebraska of 2017 isn't Nebraska of 1995 or even Nebraska of 2001. No one fears the N, and teams aren't going to roll over just because Nebraska is the opponent.

 

[bigboxes]

I expect Nebraska to win every game and disappointed when they lose.

I am however objective enough to realize that Nebraska of 2017 isn't Nebraska of 1995 or even Nebraska of 2001. No one fears the N, and teams aren't going to roll over just because Nebraska is the opponent.

No one rolled over for Nebraska in 1995 because of the N. We were just a lot better than our opponents.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

No one rolled over for Nebraska in 1995 because of the N. We were just a lot better than our opponents.

Sure they did. They were psyched out from the jump. It's just like we were with OU for most of the 1970s. We were beat before the game was played.

 

[bigboxes]

Sure they did. They were psyched out from the jump. It's just like we were with OU for most of the 1970s. We were beat before the game was played.

Nope.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Nope.

Next

 

[timnsun]

You expect to beat them though, right?
They did go 4-8 last year and they do have a whole new staff. We should be improving....honestly this is getting crazy. But maybe you do expect to win and im reading this wrong.

I do think we should win this game. Tuco really hit the nail on the head though. I think when the dust settles we should emerge with the victory. But Tom is adamant that this game isn't going to be a challenge, which I don't agree with at all. That's why I looked up the stats and did the research I did.

If we take Oregon lightly because of last year's schedule and a new coaching staff this year they could easily beat us. I don't know what kind of offense taggart is gonna run, but Leavitt is a fine defensive coach that could cause us some problems.

I think we win, but it isn't automatic by any means.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Goodness, gracious. Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska is saying, "Yep, Nebraska might not win because they have a couple new coaches" while Oregon has a whole new staff? Seriously?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at the recruiting rankings thinks, "Oregon is a way more talented team than the Huskers"?

Do you think anyone outside of Nebraska who looks at Oregon thinks, "A freshman qb at Oregon who started a handful of games last year and went 2-5 ought to be way better than a highly rated qb starting at Nebraska"?

Have you been spending a lot of time "enjoying" Colorado recently?

do we have a highly rated QB starting?

 

[bigboxes]

Next

 

[huskerfan1414]

I expect Nebraska to win every game and disappointed when they lose.

I am however objective enough to realize that Nebraska of 2017 isn't Nebraska of 1995 or even Nebraska of 2001. No one fears the N, and teams aren't going to roll over just because Nebraska is the opponent.

Thats not what im saying.
I dont expect them to win every game next year.
I do expect them to beat Oregon, no doubt. Nebraska had better be able to beat this oregon team considering everything.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Thats not what im saying.
I dont expect them to win every game next year.
I do expect them to beat Oregon, no doubt. Nebraska had better be able to beat this oregon team considering everything.

What is considering everything? I don't know that Taggert is going to take Oregon to the next level.

I do know that a 9 win Nebraska team needed everything they had to beat a 4 win, poorly coached Oregon team in Lincoln last year.

So if Oregon is better coached this year, I wouldn't be shocked to see them beat Nebraska at home. There is definitely some doubt. In fact I would think Oregon would be the early line favorite.