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Week 11 Press conference

And if that's what he wants nobody would blame Dana. He might also decide that 1.3 million can buy a lot of happiness without the BS a head coach has to deal with....
Especially when he will be making over $4M from Houston the next two years and I believe 60% of that for a time period after that. (If I’m quoting husker online correctly)
 
it's pretty obvious when you look at the progression of the news cycle which followed:

> Holgorsen in talks to join Nebraska staff
> Holgorsen and Nebraska close to deal
> Glenn Thomas hired
> Holgorsen joins TCU staff
> Thomas & Satt still suck
> Dana immediately agrees to join Nebraska staff when called

You'd have me believe that Holgorsen took the trouble to meet with Rhule, told him he actually wasn't interested in coaching this year, then took a job at TCU?

Holgorsen knew the existing offensive staff was full of dumbasses, probably told Rhule to demote Satterfield and get rid of the child WR coach. Rhule's solution was to get another yes man.

Fast-forward to 2 weeks ago, Rhule calls Dana with his tail tucked between his legs to ask for help from the coach who absolutely crushed him the last time they played.
I don’t disagree that some of those steps may have happened as you say… But I do completely disagree with your notion that Rhule gave DH the finger. That’s not his style. He obviously left the door open, which made it easy for DH to accept the invitation.
 
So now Dana is a liar too? Alrighty then.... Thomas didn't get paraded around Lincoln and he was hired weeks after Dana left town. It's okay to be wrong. Just admit it.
> "weeks"
> Thomas hired 9 days after Dana and Nebraska were "close" to a deal

all coaches feed digestible dialogue to the media. do you think he would've said " yeah I wanted to come here back in January, that's why I was hanging out in Lincoln coming to wrestling matches, but Rhule decided to hire his buddy instead"

it is mistake of you to think our current staff isn't capable of dysfunction while they're still under contract. everytime we've fired a coach, all these stories have come out about how terribly run the program was, yet people like you want to believe its all sunshine and sprinkles while they hold the talking pillow.

of course, you were banging your drum about Holgorsen only being good enough for an analyst role so I could see how revisionist history benefits you.
 
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He hired Thomas because Dana turned him down. He did what he could. He knew we needed a QB coach. We actually moved the ball in spurts last year. The problem was the turnovers. I think it was virtually impossible to evaluate the play calling because our QB play was so bad at times. It was a rough first year but that wasn't unexpected. He deserves credit for bringing in Thomas but Thomas couldn't fix Satt's play calling. As Sirles said, Dylan is struggling in large part because he's hurt and tentative now. THAT is one of the reasons I believe it might be a good idea to sit him and play Haarberg.

I can vividly remember Josh Allen playing for Wyoming and I can't help but wonder what could be with Haarberg. Allen was wildly inaccurate at times with Wyoming but he had a big arm and could run over DBs when he scrambled. What would happen with Haarberg at QB with what is obviously a better O line in front of him and Dana as a play caller. There's only one way to find out and you won't know playing him a snap or two at a time. Allen's junior year I think he thew 4 INTs against us and our D line hammered him time after time. He ended up as a first rounder. I know you're down on Heinrich but I really like what I've seen from him this fall. I think he's an obvious choice at least in the redzone.
Dylan is just not that good.
 
> "weeks"
> Thomas hired 9 days after Dana and Nebraska were "close" to a deal

all coaches feed digestible dialogue to the media. do you think he would've said " yeah I wanted to come here back in January, that's why I was hanging out in Lincoln coming to wrestling matches, but Rhule decided to hire his buddy instead"

it is mistake of you to think our current staff isn't capable of dysfunction while they're still under contract. everytime we've fired a coach, all these stories have come out about how terribly run the program was, yet people like you want to believe its all sunshine and sprinkles while they hold the talking pillow.

of course, you were banging your drum about Holgorsen only being good enough for an analyst role so I could see how revisionist history benefits you.
Please show me where I said Holgerson was only good enough for an analyst role. More made up crap.
 
I don’t disagree that some of those steps may have happened as you say… But I do completely disagree with your notion that Rhule gave DH the finger. That’s not his style. He obviously left the door open, which made it easy for DH to accept the invitation.
Also noted that it’s not like DH went to TCU as a coordinator (which he openly admitted to not wanting). Thalls theory is plausible had he accepted an OC job somewhere else, but he didn’t and could have, had he wanted that grind.
 
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Please show me where I said Holgerson was only good enough for an analyst role. More made up crap.
Glad you asked. This was back in January, in a thread about DH coming here to be OC

Would be a great guy to have as an analyst.
I think a low visibility analyst role would be very attractive for a guy like him. Virtually no pressure and he wouldn’t have to recruit.

I'm sure you'll now revise your opinion since the public temperature on the current staff has been assessed
 
So now Dana is a liar too? Alrighty then.... Thomas didn't get paraded around Lincoln and he was hired weeks after Dana left town. It's okay to be wrong. Just admit it.
Hey Dingle, you've been on here long enough to know DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!! LOL
 
Hey Dingle, you've been on here long enough to know DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!! LOL
there is a greater than 80% chance your wardrobe looks like this:

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Some show pointed out that DH is doing exactly what he needs. Calling people out, saying the blocking is embarrassing, etc.
Said for most guys they’ll feel some shame and step up their game
Others will weed themselves out, which Is good too

Looking forward to these last couple games
 
there is a greater than 80% chance your wardrobe looks like this:

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Go away Cuck boy, you're a dumbass loser and everyone on the board knows it! The more you post, the more it make you look like a fool!

I need to take my own advice and stop feeding the trolls! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
Go away Cuck boy, you're a dumbass loser and everyone on the board knows it! The more you post, the more it make you look like a fool!

I need to take my own advice and stop feeding the trolls! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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the collective IQ of this board dropped significantly when you began posting
 
Glad you asked. This was back in January, in a thread about DH coming here to be OC




I'm sure you'll now revise your opinion since the public temperature on the current staff has been assessed
Where does that say “he’s only good enough for an analyst role”? It doesn’t. Nice try.
 
Where does that say “he’s only good enough for an analyst role”? It doesn’t. Nice try.
2 instances of calling for him to be an analyst in a thread about him being looked at for OC.

Don't assume other people are as stupid as you, puts you in a precarious situation when you try to defend yourself.

I liked you better when you crying about how good Brock Purdy's little brother was for 2 years, it was funny when you didn't expect people to take you seriously.
 
I'd imagine that buttholes are puckered...

Players who want to win will step up and embrace the challenge like good soldiers. Those butt hurt will walk away.

Double for all assistant coaches on offense.
I really hope we are able to get rid of those butthurt players as well. Time for a full roster reboot.
 
2 instances of calling for him to be an analyst in a thread about him being looked at for OC.

Don't assume other people are as stupid as you, puts you in a precarious situation when you try to defend yourself.

I liked you better when you crying about how good Brock Purdy's little brother was for 2 years, it was funny when you didn't expect people to take you seriously.
I didn't call for him to be an analyst either. I said the position might be attractive for him. The whole conversation at that point was we needed a QB coach. NOT ONCE did I suggest he wouldn't be a good OC. NOBODY expected Rhule to replace Satt with Holgerson. NOBODY. Some might have wished it but nobody expected it. Keep trolling.
 
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context matters troll. I wasn't lobbying to hire Dana. Was I wrong that he would be a great guy to have as an analyst?
 
I didn't call for him to be an analyst either. I said the position might be attractive for him. The whole conversation at that point was we needed a QB coach. NOT ONCE did I suggest he wouldn't be a good OC. NOBODY expected Rhule to replace Satt with Holgerson. NOBODY. Some might have wished it but nobody expected it. Keep trolling.
here's one person's humble opinion - from Jan 7, 2024:

would be amazing to add Holgorson in any capacity. would be incredible to have him call plays.

I just don't think Rhule will publicly embarrass his friend like that. and I also don't believe Rhule would hire a guy to call plays he's never worked with before unless his hand was forced

my my my
 
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context matters
yes it does, just like saying he should be an analyst in a thread about him being an OC.

you're just arguing to argue at this point. i was pounding the idea of Holgorsen months ago, you were waxing poetic about Bill O'Brien and Brock Purdy's little brother the last 2 years.

i want Nebraska to win championships, you want to brag about how nice the fans are and lecture about wisdom from the comfort of your trailer.

you're free to do that, just stop doing it at me.
 
So Rhule did something right finally in your eyes?
I love having Dana on staff. he is an actual football coach.

I hate that it took throwing this season in the trash and the AD stepping in (my opinion) to do it when it was glaringly obvious our disgraced former OC was in over his head during August, 2023.

better late than never. and perhaps a glimpse into actual leadership taking place in the AD's office for once in a very, very long time.
 
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yes it does, just like saying he should be an analyst in a thread about him being an OC.

you're just arguing to argue at this point. i was pounding the idea of Holgorsen months ago, you were waxing poetic about Bill O'Brien and Brock Purdy's little brother the last 2 years.

i want Nebraska to win championships, you want to brag about how nice the fans are and lecture about wisdom from the comfort of your trailer.

you're free to do that, just stop doing it at me.
The thread about him being an OC was long before he was announced as an OC. At that point the only person who believed Satt would be replaced with Dana was the OP who started the thread. Nobody has seen a head coach replace his OC with a person from outside the program ever before. I'm happy they brought him in no matter what title he ended up with.

Do you think Bill O'Brien would have been a worse option that Matt Rhule? We could have hired him without an 8 year 8 million dollar contract, he's won under difficult circumstances at PSU, and he can develop QBs.
 
I love having Dana on staff. he is an actual football coach.

I hate that it took throwing this season in the trash and the AD stepping in (my opinion) to do it when it was glaringly obvious our disgraced former OC was in over his head during August, 2023.

better late than never. and perhaps a glimpse into actual leadership taking place in the AD's office for once in a very, very long time.
So you think Dannen forced Rhule to hire his good friend Dana mid-season? C'mon. Rhule tried to hire him while Trev was still here.
 
In this Monday press conference Rhule alluded to feeling the pressure to win.
I am under the assumption he is getting pressure from AD and other people as well. Just my opinion.
 
In this Monday press conference Rhule alluded to feeling the pressure to win.
I am under the assumption he is getting pressure from AD and other people as well. Just my opinion.
Sure he has pressure. The fans applied pressure during the UCLA game. I've never heard anything like that at Memorial Stadium. Yeah they booed Callahan but the noise while we were on offense on that last drive was amazing. Dylan was waving his arms trying to get the crowd to quiet down so he could hear the play call. He knows fans are unhappy. They know what's being said on social media. That's not the same as the AD supposedly telling Rhule he has to go out and hire a new OC with 3 games to go.
 
So you think Dannen forced Rhule to hire his good friend Dana mid-season? C'mon. Rhule tried to hire him while Trev was still here.
yes, I do think Rhule's hand was forced by the AD.

here are more tea leaves:

 
The thread about him being an OC was long before he was announced as an OC. At that point the only person who believed Satt would be replaced with Dana was the OP who started the thread. Nobody has seen a head coach replace his OC with a person from outside the program ever before. I'm happy they brought him in no matter what title he ended up with.
You have completely lost the plot. Yes, I'm aware that a thread from January happened long before events from 2 weeks ago. No, a coaching change in January is not unprecedented.
Do you think Bill O'Brien would have been a worse option that Matt Rhule? We could have hired him without an 8 year 8 million dollar contract, he's won under difficult circumstances at PSU, and he can develop QBs.
Lets roll the tape from October 2022:
YES: Meyer, Klieman, Leipold, Freeze

MEH: Campbell, Aranda

ABSOLUTELY NOT: O'Brien, Rhule, any service academy coach

also, whoever said Vance Joseph is a certified pervert
I think O'Brien is marginally better than Rhule. Good enough to deliver a few wins, never going to win meaningful games.
 
EVERYBODY wants to win 6. How do you leap from that statement to Dannen telling Rhule he has to hire Dana with 3 games left? Rhule has stated we have to win 6 virtually all year long.
that's not a leap.

those are words that we've never heard from the AD. and then, magically, 7 days after an unprecedented OC change, he's not mincing in a very public forum.

not sure how you can ignore the timing. no such thing as coincidences.
 
In my opinion you both are correct just stating it 2 different ways.
Did AD say you hire this guy or else I am definitely not saying that yet I think AD is saying something has to change for us to go to a bowl (like keep doing same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity) keep throwing sideways and backwards is asnine. Satt was throwing the boys to the wolves in my opinion and something had to change.
Hopefully this makes sense
 
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that's not a leap.

those are words that we've never heard from the AD. and then, magically, 7 days after an unprecedented OC change, he's not mincing in a very public forum.

not sure how you can ignore the timing. no such thing as coincidences.
I could see Dannen suggesting change his play caller but nobody in college had ever brought in somebody from outside to be their new OC and call plays with 3 game left. Rhule already knew he needed to do something else because he grabbed a play sheet after that pick 6 the first play out of half time against UCLA. I think he was fed up with Satt's calls and did what he wanted and tried to do back in December. He was desperate whether Dannen suggested changing play caller or not. Believe it or not, Rhule wants to win just as much as you do.
 
I could see Dannen suggesting change his play caller but nobody in college had ever brought in somebody from outside to be their new OC and call plays with 3 game left. Rhule already knew he needed to do something else because he grabbed a play sheet after that pick 6 the first play out of half time against UCLA. I think he was fed up with Satt's calls and did what he wanted and tried to do back in December. He was desperate whether Dannen suggested changing play caller or not. Believe it or not, Rhule wants to win just as much as you do.
I don't doubt Rhule's want to win.

I do doubt his ability to win.

the lack of vision/conviction he's shown since getting here is the reddest of flags, in my opinion.
 
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When Dana H said assistant coaches fall in love with certain players i am sure that happens with Head Coaches vs assistants and schemes Tom Osborne for instance it took 7 embarrassing bowl losses to admit he needed help.
Went to Florida State to visit Bobby Bowden and then the 90s happened.
Bowden said Tom did it better than him.
Without asking for help the 90s would have never happened.
Rhule does invest a lot of time with the defense as he has admitted as much.
Yes it was unorthodox for him to go after Dana when he did yet I think his back was against the wall from a lot of different directions.
Rhule is a very good structure person.
I just think he needs to make a few different hires and then let's roll.
 
Its reasonable to doubt his ability to win given what we've seen this year.
this new era of college football might be playing more a part in it than we care to admit.

Rhule's record when dealing with free agency is now 21-39.

his penchant for finding and developing non-traditional football talent seems to have been deprioritized in his attempt to build NU in the NIL era.

Jalen Lloyd - a 3* non-traditional football recruit with conference championship sprinter speed - is the exact kind of guy we saw Rhule win with in his prior stops.

now, even after producing on the field as a true frosh, that player sits behind two well-paid transfers who can't make plays.

this is another thing that's worrisome to me - Rhule's core belief has been virtually non-existent here outside of the 7 games Haarberg started in '23.

and no, I am not suggesting HH should play. DR is a great fit for our team and a stupendous talent - we just need to help him out and I'm not sure surrounding him with mercenaries is the answer.

Rhule said we want to be a developmental program - then DO IT!
 
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Needs to hire a couple new coaches.
Frost could have hired the best of the best and didn't.
At least Rhule whether pressured or not already made a change.
He better be willing to.
 
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