which if I remember correctly, he has only his mother for a parent, which to give up a scholarship to go pay to play was a big risk for him, but its working out for him minus being apart of a winning culture until possibly now.
Walk-On Program Being Reduced
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They may not be overly concerned about stars, but they were practical in taking the best players they could get so late in the game. If you look at the 24 and 25 offers they are definitely going after some high star players.
I agree 11 on Offense. and 11 on D. and a couple of kickers, And a couple of subs. Could knock that down by 100 players.
the walk-on program is being reduced because having a 150 man roster is unmanageable and a hinderance to the development of the top 110 players and therefore the program as a whole - it is an extreme outlier from other power 5 programs
it is cowardly of Trev to say it is being reduced due to title IX rather than telling the Cleti in the fan base the truth - that we have too many walk-on Willies to run an effective program - because it might upset them
it is cowardly of Trev to say it is being reduced due to title IX rather than telling the Cleti in the fan base the truth - that we have too many walk-on Willies to run an effective program - because it might upset them
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For real?
Bottom line, it doesn’t matter what Trev says or how he says it, people are gonna be mad. It’s a both and, not an either or. If he chooses to focus on title IX, so be it.
Some people just gotta be mad about something, don’t they?
Why did he need to comment at all?
And if he felt the need - simply saying the roster size is always being assessed in terms of what is manageable given time and coaching constraints in addition to financial considerations - instead of blaming women as the reason that poor little Cletus Jr might have to go to UNK if he wants to play football
the walk-on program is being reduced because it is too big and at current numbers is counter-productive
it has nothing to do with title IX - Trev is using it as a scapegoat
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This, or coach Rhule told Trev he doesn't want the roster this big so Trev is using Title IX so HCMR doesn't piss off the fan base by reducing the size of the walk on program.
With us having the largest support staff in the nation you would think we could maintain a larger roster.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but why be pissed off about it? Are fans now gonna take it out on women’s athletics at Nebraska? Don’t see that happening.
There’s nothing here. No need to create a story out of nothing. That’s my opinion of course. Maybe others want to call Trev a coward as well. I just don’t see the need.
Google is your friend, at least as far as Title IX. If somebody wants to make trouble about the walkon program, she can.
The “proportionality” test, which generally has been interpreted to mean that if 50 percent of the student body is female, then roughly 50 percent of that school’s varsity athletes should be female. This is the most commonly used test for IX compliance outside of scholarship numbers. A large football walkon program flies in the face of this test.
The “expanding opportunities” test allows a school to have more walkons if they traditionally provide good opportunities for women.
The “gauging interest” test, takes a survey of the student body. If only 20 percent of women indicate interest in being a varsity athlete, while 40 percent of its men indicate interest, the school can have more men on rosters including walkons.
So in my opinion Trev isn't being a coward, he is trying to navigate a somewhat nebulous federal mandate, and that impacts how many walkons he thinks we can have and stay out of trouble.
All of that has been true for years/decades.
The walk on program is being trimmed because at its current numbers it is detrimental to the program
If title IX rules were changed tomorrow and the football roster could have unlimited walkons it would be diminished just the same
Trev is being disingenuous and using title IX as the bogeyman to justify what is simply a football decision.
How is Trev being disingenuous? Title IX is a real thing that we need to abide by. Reducing the walk on program Numbers helps us get there. How is that disingenuous? Just because you want him to say we are cutting it because it was bloated, and since he doesn’t say that he is lying to the fan base?
Yes they added walk ons to the women's swim team several years back to keep compliant with Title IX. They didnt swim at any meets, they had a different coach then the other swimmers, and didnt practice with the real swim team. Scott's 150 man roster was causing problems in the Title IX office and it was obviously not helping us on the field on Saturdays, Rhule and Trev are wise to cut things down to a reasonable number.
It has plenty to do with Title IX. The roster size Moos allowed Frost to build caused huge problems for the athletic department.
It created huge problems for the football team. As I said above if title IX allowed for an unlimited football roster the walk on numbers would still be cut just the same. Title IX is just an convenient excuse.
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What did Trev do to you? So sorry he hurt you.
Actually - major hat tip to Trev
Floating title IX is a brilliant false flag that the majority are more than happy to salute
Listened to Charlie McBride on radio. He said they had too many walk-ons when he was coaching. He said several wanted to play football and if they showed some talent, they tried to get them placed at a level they could actually play. He also said there were walk-ons that just wanted to go to school in Lincoln and be on the team. For some of those it was ok, but others were a problem.
I know a booster who had a son that walked on when Frank was here. When Billy C came and reduced the walk-on program, his son was left off the team. It was a point when frost was hired to increase the walk-ons because of boosters like him that felt every Nebraska kid had the right to say they played football in Lincoln. That was sort of forced on Scott to increase the walkons
Except it’s true. Could we have come in line without cutting walk ons? Sure. We were already doing it. Were there already too many walk ons and that was causing problems? Maybe so.
It still doesn’t change the fact that by doing this it makes it easier to maintain title IX across the board and is more financially feasible for the department.
But you call him a coward repeatedly. That’s really the only thing I take issue with you on. You would do the exact same thing if you were in his shoes. Don’t even try to deny it, because I won’t believe it if you do.
Here’s what I believe will be my final word on this… I agree to disagree on the cowardice side of things. You’ve got your opinion, I’ve got mine. It’s all good, my husker brother.
Yes - I would absolutely decrease the walk on volume
I absolutely would not blame it on title ix
if those extra 30-40 walkons at the bottom of the roster were providing any value - it would be exceedingly easy to add 3-4 women athletes per sport or simply add lacrosse or field hockey
those 30-40 extra players add zero value and are detrimental to the program regardless of the title IX implications.
the reason the walkon volume is being reduced is because at its current number it is hurting the program - the fact that is also helps title ix compliance become less complicated is an added benefit but not the reason
Trev is peddling the reason for the cuts are b/c of title ix because he knows that message will play better to his audience
Yep….I swear 80%!of this Board is panicky women, never happy with anything
Except the rules say you have to also have equivalent numbers of participants.
Coach Rhule and myself seem to be on the same page more often than not, it seems.
haters & losers (there are many), hide your eyes:
“We’re going to miss on some guys,” Rhule said, “but it can’t be for a lack of trying. We have to be every place that we can be. Ed is just the consummate professional. He’s got such an engaging personality that he has turned this into something that’s really cool and people are following. Which is what you want.
“We want people to be excited about Nebraska football.”
Ultimately, the goal is simple, Rhule said.
“I can’t let Danny Woodhead get away.”
haters & losers (there are many), hide your eyes:
“We’re going to miss on some guys,” Rhule said, “but it can’t be for a lack of trying. We have to be every place that we can be. Ed is just the consummate professional. He’s got such an engaging personality that he has turned this into something that’s really cool and people are following. Which is what you want.
“We want people to be excited about Nebraska football.”
Ultimately, the goal is simple, Rhule said.
“I can’t let Danny Woodhead get away.”
The reason doesn't matter to me. When you have a program that has lost as much as we have then you look for something you can do different. No point on spending time and resources on something that hasn't led to wins.
Now on the other hand, I think if we miraculously won a national title and kids who had schollies to NDSU, SDSU, Ohio, etc. were suddenly begging to walk on, we would find a way to take them even with a larger roster.
Now on the other hand, I think if we miraculously won a national title and kids who had schollies to NDSU, SDSU, Ohio, etc. were suddenly begging to walk on, we would find a way to take them even with a larger roster.
Take as many walkons as we can as long as it doesn’t take time or attention away from scholarship athletes. There will always be room for the lunchpail kids, but that is not a viable strategy……however, every school does need tackling dummies. I’m confident that Coach Rhule will sort it out and F those that poo poo reducing walkon focus.
Getting your ass kicked for two decades will do that to a guy. Hard lessons learned.
There are simply not enough coaches to evaluate , develop and coach as many as 150 players .
I’m as much for tradition as anyone else in except that the tradition we are now talking about is 25 plus years old and older. Time to move on from that dream .
Let Rhule do what he thinks is best for the Football team in todays football environment.
The way Rhule approached evaluating talent and with what he has said multiple times about recruiting Nebraska kids, I believe Reimer is a guy that would have had a scholarship without having to walk on.
