Unacceptable season

[nebcountry]

I really don't see what the fuss is about. I am disappointed with this year, but it's over now. How long are we gonna cry over spilt milk? Riley is probably on some time line with expectations of success spelled out.

Will next year be better? Honestly, it's 8 or 9 months away and that will be a long time to be stewing over this season.

 

[jflores]

I really don't see what the fuss is about. I am disappointed with this year, but it's over now. How long are we gonna cry over spilt milk? Riley is probably on some time line with expectations of success spelled out.

Will next year be better? Honestly, it's 8 or 9 months away and that will be a long time to be stewing over this season.

Sno and others are upset that they weren't consulted for the coaching hire. And doubly upset that Riley won't try and imitate Osborne while Sno generously gave him a whole 5 games to get it done. And probably triply upset that at any point after Game 6, the whole staff wasn't fired.

I think he also finds it a might bit puzzling that guys like Herman and Frost, who were supposedly only $25 million dollars away from schools like NU and USC, are at Houston and UCF, where a whole staff may not make $25 million dollars over the same time period.

 

[jflores]

I really don't see what the fuss is about. I am disappointed with this year, but it's over now. How long are we gonna cry over spilt milk? Riley is probably on some time line with expectations of success spelled out.

Will next year be better? Honestly, it's 8 or 9 months away and that will be a long time to be stewing over this season.

Indeed a long time. I can wait and see. I think some of these guys are going to have aneurysms before they ever find out what next year looks like.

One thing I don't quite understand from the anti-Riley crowd, is this fear that Riley will be here forever and NU ends up Kansas. People are generally pretty agitated this year, it won't take but a year or two to figure out if this fan base will accept the situation not getting any better or if Riley will improve the team. He won't be here forever if things aren't going well. That's as sure as settled science. Whether he will improve or not is the speculative part.

 

[otismotis08]

Indeed a long time. I can wait and see. I think some of these guys are going to have aneurysms before they ever find out what next year looks like.

One thing I don't quite understand from the anti-Riley crowd, is this fear that Riley will be here forever and NU ends up Kansas. People are generally pretty agitated this year, it won't take but a year or two to figure out if this fan base will accept the situation not getting any better or if Riley will improve the team. He won't be here forever if things aren't going well. That's as sure as settled science. Whether he will improve or not is the speculative part.

First off, I don't consider myself "anti-Riley". Honestly, I don't think there are that many "anti-Riley" or "pro-Bo" people.

The concern is that NU ends up settling for mediocrity, as long as the stadium is full, we don't have continued sub-.500 seasons, and the team/coaches generally represent the University with dignity.

We want more for our football program. Call it greed, entitlement, unrealistic, by-gone days...whatever. We want to see the program swing for the fences with every move.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

First off, I don't consider myself "anti-Riley". Honestly, I don't think there are that many "anti-Riley" or "pro-Bo" people.
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There are very few folks who are anti-Riley or pro-Bo here. Some like to push that narrative on anyone who speaks out on problems we have seen this year.

 

[BornNBredRed]

I'm glad Bo's gone, but blaming every bad thing we experienced this season on him is a little absurd.

Probably 95% of the minutes played this season were by Bo's players. Until Riley has his players starting at most positions, it is on Bo. We can only hope that a dozen or so of the Bo malcontents leave after the bowl game....if not before.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

Probably 95% of the minutes played this season were by Bo's players. Until Riley has his players starting at most positions, it is on Bo. We can only hope that a dozen or so of the Bo malcontents leave after the bowl game....if not before.

This is the problem right here! The players are Huskers. They aren't Bo's players or his groceries. We have fans (probably on both sides of the equation) whose fandom is more about the coach than the team. These are people who will go to the mat in increasingly fringe ways to defend the coach (Riley is just like Saban...Pelini is just like Osborne) but will rarely do that with players. Instead we say that they don't care, they are being controlled by the previous coaches, they have Aspergers or other mental problems, they have ptsd and need to be run off, they need one way tickets out of here.

We have met the enemy, and he is us.

 

[dinglefritz]

This is the problem right here! The players are Huskers. They aren't Bo's players or his groceries. We have fans (probably on both sides of the equation) whose fandom is more about the coach than the team. These are people who will go to the mat in increasingly fringe ways to defend the coach (Riley is just like Saban...Pelini is just like Osborne) but will rarely do that with players. Instead we say that they don't care, they are being controlled by the previous coaches, they have Aspergers or other mental problems, they have ptsd and need to be run off, they need one way tickets out of here.

We have met the enemy, and he is us.

I'm so glad that you and your Ivy League superior elitist intellect is back from your vacation to tell us all the correct way to think.

 

[SnohomishRed]

I'm so glad that you and your Ivy League superior elitist intellect is back from your vacation to tell us all the correct way to think.

And yet in a post in this same thread you state " Support him and think positive thoughts as best you can. It would be good for you and good for NU." Is this not telling me the correct way to think - At least be consistent

TT is not telling you anything he is giving his opinion. You feel a particular way and want to stifle any other opinions that do not line up with yours. Its a common problem in society in general today.

The point is these are NU players labeling them Bobots or calling them other names is not very helpful. IT has seemed over the last few years that players became open game. Despite what people think these are young men and not getting paid millions. I think they deserve a little slack from fans

 

[nebcountry]

This is the problem right here! The players are Huskers. They aren't Bo's players or his groceries. We have fans (probably on both sides of the equation) whose fandom is more about the coach than the team. These are people who will go to the mat in increasingly fringe ways to defend the coach (Riley is just like Saban...Pelini is just like Osborne) but will rarely do that with players. Instead we say that they don't care, they are being controlled by the previous coaches, they have Aspergers or other mental problems, they have ptsd and need to be run off, they need one way tickets out of here.

We have met the enemy, and he is us.

It's human nature. No one wants to be wrong. There are people with an emotional investment in the current coaching staff. They're willing to defend that emotional investment at all cost.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

I'm so glad that you and your Ivy League superior elitist intellect is back from your vacation to tell us all the correct way to think.

In other words, "Get back on the board's narrative!"

 

[jflores]

First off, I don't consider myself "anti-Riley". Honestly, I don't think there are that many "anti-Riley" or "pro-Bo" people.

The concern is that NU ends up settling for mediocrity, as long as the stadium is full, we don't have continued sub-.500 seasons, and the team/coaches generally represent the University with dignity.

We want more for our football program. Call it greed, entitlement, unrealistic, by-gone days...whatever. We want to see the program swing for the fences with every move.

I never considered you anti-Riley. Your main beef seems to have been "lightning rod recruiter". But you've demonstrated that you understand that means a not-instant turn around.

Some folks, Riley can't take a sh*t without hearing about it. Or at least accept, now that a move has been made (whether personal feelings deem it the correct move or not), we have to give it at least the due time before we go swinging for the fences again, *if required*.

I would also note that some folks have not had it click in their head what their version of swinging for the fences is. People routinely throw out Frost and Herman as folks we should have hired, saying other big time schools would for their first job, and both those fellas end up at mid-major programs and not blue bloods out the gate. It would seem that NU is not completely out in left field on passing on those guys at the current time, which is contrary to the anti-Riley narrative about the powers that be.

 

[otismotis08]

I never considered you anti-Riley. Your main beef seems to have been "lightning rod recruiter". But you've demonstrated that you understand that means a not-instant turn around.

Some folks, Riley can't take a sh*t without hearing about it. Or at least accept, now that a move has been made (whether personal feelings deem it the correct move or not), we have to give it at least the due time before we go swinging for the fences again, *if required*.

I would also note that some folks have not had it click in their head what their version of swinging for the fences is. People routinely throw out Frost and Herman as folks we should have hired, saying other big time schools would for their first job, and both those fellas end up at mid-major programs and not blue bloods out the gate. It would seem that NU is not completely out in left field on passing on those guys at the current time, which is contrary to the anti-Riley narrative about the powers that be.

Fair enough. Although settling for Oregon State's coaching staff seems more like a bunt or an opposite field slap than swinging for the fences.

 

[Native Nebraskan]

Can you say bad coaching? Two of the losses this year were the direct result of poor coaching decisions (BYU and Illinois). You have a coach who wants to throw the ball with no quarterbacks on your team who can consistently throw the ball. Maybe Riley is the right person then his coordinators need to be examined. Does Riley have the guts to make hard decisions?

 

[jflores]

Can you say bad coaching? Two of the losses this year were the direct result of poor coaching decisions (BYU and Illinois). You have a coach who wants to throw the ball with no quarterbacks on your team who can consistently throw the ball. Maybe Riley is the right person then his coordinators need to be examined. Does Riley have the guts to make hard decisions?

You might consider staying the course in the face of poll results that tell you otherwise is also a hard decision. Vis a vis GWB in Iraq, 2006. A true leader doesn't just follow the crowd.