Tom Scream and Hoosiers are on upset alert.

[newAD]

Truth is Nebraska played them 2x's in the last 5 years. It is not mandatory that Nebraska and Creighton play UNO every year.

I highly doubt that either school is scared. It is a lose/lose situation for both Creighton and Nebraska.

If they played every year and let's say Nebraska was 15-0 against UNO over the last 15 years, and on that 16th year UNO gets lucky and squeaks out a win 65-64 in double OT...

Then what... we have to listen to fans like you and huskerbaseball13 takes jabs at the team that they are the 3rd best team in Nebraska. Yet Nebraska won the last 15 meetings...

It goes the same for Creighton/Nebraska and Creighton/UNO

2012-2013 - NU wins 75-62
2014-2015 - NU wins 81-68

Yet Nebraska is scared to play them? Makes no sense to me!

Lose lose is a euphemism for scared.

Pointing out the current position of Nebraska basketball is not bashing. Pointing out that Nebraska for decades had almost zero emphasis on Nebraska is not bashing. Telling people that Miles is scared to lose to another in state program is not bashing.

I want Miles to succeed. I've stated that. I've waited almost a half century for Nebraska to win a game in the dance. That doesn't mean I can't be objective, which I have.

 

[newAD]

Have the media ask both coaches. Put pressure on the Administration of each school. Send an email to Miles and Molinari asking, they put the NU schedule together.

The fact is, Nebraska under Miles has played Omaha twice and the Huskers won both times. The truth does hurt, you'll have to eventually deal with it.

2-0, so keep playing. Oh, but wait, those UNO teams are better than the ones Nebraska beat, and Nebraska........hmmm.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

No. I dont want Nebraska to surrender Omaha to CU, which they are well on their way to doing so.

I want to see Omaha produce more and more D1 players, and anything that would generate more excitement would help that happen is good for Nebraska. Unless they are content with surrending Omaha to CU.

The "Bone" I'd like to see thrown is an occasional potential life line to Lincoln.

Oh, and when it comes to basketball, right now there is no big state school in Nebraska.

So you think CU should occasionally play UNO so that UNO can help Nebraska keep Creighton from taking over Omaha?

And you think that will somehow create more D1 players in the state?

And you think UNO should be ok with surrendering Omaha to UNL just not to Creighton?

Good God man you have gone mad.

 

[GBRhuskers]

2-0, so keep playing. Oh, but wait, those UNO teams are better than the ones Nebraska beat, and Nebraska........hmmm.

Omaha couldn't beat a 15-18 Husker team.

Omaha couldn't beat a 13-18 Husker team.

But somehow, they'd beat this year's squad which is arguably coach Miles most talented. Ya, and the moon landing was fake.

Like I said, beat powerhouse Rice first. The truth does hurt.

 

[newAD]

So you think CU should occasionally play UNO so that UNO can help Nebraska keep Creighton from taking over Omaha?

And you think that will somehow create more D1 players in the state?

And you think UNO should be ok with surrendering Omaha to UNL just not to Creighton?

Good God man you have gone mad.

I grew up going to CU/UNO basketball games.

Yes, anything that creates more excitement for basketball is a good thing. Seeing all 3 Division 1 schools in this state playing each other would be a good thing.

When exactly did UNO have superiority over Nebraska in Omaha? I've lived here all my life and that's never happened. You've lived where? You live where now?

I've gone mad? I'm not the one who's all butthurt by pointing out the simple concept that Nebraska/Miles is scared (oops, sees a No Win situation) to play UNO.

 

[newAD]

Omaha couldn't beat a 15-18 Husker team.

Omaha couldn't beat a 13-18 Husker team.

But somehow, they'd beat this year's squad which is arguably coach Miles most talented. Ya, and the moon landing was fake.

Like I said, beat powerhouse Rice first. The truth does hurt.

Then again, why are they not on the schedule? I don't believe UNO would win. But they could.

 

[GBRhuskers]

I'm not the one who's all butthurt

It's obvious you are.

Then again, why are they not on the schedule?

I've already answered your questions.

Rice 100
Omaha 87

Yikes.

 

[jay-cheese]

This thread wouldn't exist if we weren't so crappy at basketball....

GBR

 

[newAD]

It's obvious you are.



I've already answered your questions.

Rice 100
Omaha 87

Yikes.

FAR from butthurt. As a Nebraska fan first and foremost, I'm ashamed that it's obvious, and it's comical that you and others can't admit it.

Yes UNO lost to Rice. They also led USC on the road for 30 plus minutes, and gave K-State a solid game. That's a hell of a lot better schedule than the Huskers have played.

You have given a elaborate reason which when simplified means, Miles is scared to play them the past 2 years. If Nebraska has a good season this year, show some balls and confidence to put them on the schedule.

 

[GBRhuskers]

FAR from butthurt. As a Nebraska fan first and foremost, I'm ashamed that it's obvious, and it's comical thst you and others can't admit it.

Yes UNO lost to Rice. They also led USC on the road for 30 plus minutes, and gave K-State a solid game. That's a hell of a lot better schedule than the Huskers have played.

You have given a elaborate reason which when simplified means, Miles is scared to play them the past 2 years. If Nebraska has a good season this year, show some balls and cofidence to put them on the schedule.

Your responses say opposite.

The good o "I'm a Husker fan blah blah" response. You're in the extreme minority for a reason, and it's not because you're right.

We've already played someone better than Omaha and we'll also play teams better than anyone Omaha will play, prior to conference play.

A gave a legit response. Contact the ones that can give you answers. Contact Omaha administration to get answers. Contact the local media to put pressure for answers. Raise hell, damn it!

2-0, the truth continues to hurt.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I grew up going to CU/UNO basketball games.

Yes, anything that creates more excitement for basketball is a good thing. Seeing all 3 Division 1 schools in this state playing each other would be a good thing.

When exactly did UNO have superiority over Nebraska in Omaha? I've lived here all my life and that's never happened. You've lived where? You live where now?

I've gone mad? I'm not the one who's all butthurt by pointing out the simple concept that Nebraska/Miles is scared (oops, sees a No Win situation) to play UNO.

Ok I will spell it out for you more clearly.

I went to many games at the civic growing up and I believe the CU record against UNO was 15-1. With the 1 loss coming in Willis Reed era. Great rivalry (sarcasm)

Beating up on weaker in state opponents doesn't create excitement. As I said before Creighton and Nebraska currently fill their arenas regularly, playing UNO does nothing to create excitement for their teams.

What I was saying with regards to surrendering Omaha is fairly simple. UNO is attempting to create their own brand, presumably to take control of the Omaha market. You seem to believe that they will just allow themselves to be used as some sort of pawn to help UNL maintain a stronghold on the Omaha basketball market. That does nothing to help them create and grow their identity.
That makes absolutely zero sense.

Tell me what Nebraska has to gain by playing UNO. Tell me what Creighton stands to gain by playing UNO. Other than you think it should happen there is no other reason for the games to be played.

 

[newAD]

You're responses say opposite.

The good o "I'm a Husker fan blah blah" response. You're in the extreme minority for a reason, and it's not because you're right.

We've already played someone better than Omaha and we'll also play teams better than anyone Omaha will play, prior to conference play.

A gave a legit response. Contact the ones that can give you answers. Contact Omaha administration to get answers. Contact the local media to put pressure for answers. Raise hell, damn it!

2-0, the truth continues to hurt.

I have. 2-0 is irrelevant to last year and this year. And it's irrelevant to next year if they don't play then either.

Yea Nebraska played a team in a closed door scrimmage that is better than Omaha.

I guess you'll just have to take my word that I bleed Husker red, but I'm not blind enough to not see the truth. You are.

 

[GBRhuskers]

Yea Nebraska played a team in a closed door scrimmage that is better than Omaha.

Louisiana Tech > Omaha. That game was open to the public, Mr. OmahaHusker fan.

2-0, the truth [butt]hurts.

 

[newAD]

Ok I will spell it out for you more clearly.

I went to many games at the civic growing up and I believe the CU record against UNO was 15-1. With the 1 loss coming in Willis Reed era. Great rivalry (sarcasm)

Beating up on weaker in state opponents doesn't create excitement. As I said before Creighton and Nebraska currently fill their arenas regularly, playing UNO does nothing to create excitement for their teams.

What I was saying with regards to surrendering Omaha is fairly simple. UNO is attempting to create their own brand, presumably to take control of the Omaha market. You seem to believe that they will just allow themselves to be used as some sort of pawn to help UNL maintain a stronghold on the Omaha basketball market. That does nothing to help them create and grow their identity.
That makes absolutely zero sense.

Tell me what Nebraska has to gain by playing UNO. Tell me what Creighton stands to gain by playing UNO. Other than you think it should happen there is no other reason for the games to be played.

UNO was D2 when we were kids.

What do both CU and Nebraska have to gain by playing UNO? How about not looking like they are chicken$#&@ to do so.

You think UNO wouldn't play Nebraska for the exposure and potential money?

 

[Suvey101885]

My first year back at UNO in '14 I hear a girl across my lab bench who was on the softball team say NU was afraid to play them. I lol'd to myself. Looks like Nebraska's volleyball team is afraid to schedule UNO as well.

 

[newAD]

Louisiana Tech > Omaha. That game was open to the public, Mr. OmahaHusker fan.

2-0, the truth [butt]hurts.

What truth hurts? You know La Tech is better how?

Oh, and since I pay attention to college basketball I must be an Omaha fan and not a Husker fan? Boy you are insecure.

 

[GBRhuskers]

What truth hurts? You know La Tech is better how?

Oh, and since I pay attention to college basketball I must be an Omaha fan and not a Husker fan? Boy you are insecure.

2-0 and common sense, which is something you're struggling with.

From [butt]hurt to meltdown.

 

[newAD]

[butt]hurts.

Want to know when I was butthurt as a Nebraska Basketball fan? I was pretty ####### butthurt on this day.

I left there wishing the opponent had been UNO instead because maybe the Huskers would have shown up knowing it was a lose/lose situation.

 

[newAD]

2-0 and common sense, which is something you're struggling with.

From [butt]hurt to meltdown.

Samford is 1-0. Relevance?

 

[GBRhuskers]

I left there wishing the opponent had been UNO instead because maybe the Huskers would have shown up knowing it was a lose/lose situation.

Samford is 1-0. Relevance?

It's easy, Samford did something Omaha couldn't. The truth continues to [butt]hurt.

 

[newAD]

It's easy, Samford did something Omaha couldn't. The truth continues to [butt]hurt.

So Samford wins again. Got it.

 

[GBRhuskers]

So Samford wins again. Got it.

So Omaha lost twice. Got it.

 

[newAD]

So Omaha lost twice. Got it.

How about a rematch with Incarnate Word? Let's even that up so we can brag about that in a couple of years.

 

[GBRhuskers]

How about a rematch with Incarnate Word? Let's even that up so we can brag about that in a couple of years.

Another school that did something Omaha couldn't. Man, that has to sting.

0-2.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

UNO was D2 when we were kids.

What do both CU and Nebraska have to gain by playing UNO? How about not looking like they are chicken$#&@ to do so.

You think UNO wouldn't play Nebraska for the exposure and potential money?

I understand UNO was D2 back then. how did that benefit anyone?


You told me what UNO has to gain.

As far as looking like chickenshits, both Creighton and Nebraska play top level teams in their non conference. It's not being scared. Read my betting on the favorite post again to understand the difference between scared and wise.

When and if UNO becomes a program that is winning games, not just hanging in there against KState and USC, when they sell out Baxter (9000) and not draw 1800 fans, they will become less of a risk to play.

The Omaha basketball scene has been very consistent over the years. If you go back to when my dad and uncles played with and against Ron Boone, Fred Hare and Bob Boozer to the mid 1970s with Mike McGee and on to the 80s with Cedric Hunter, Ron Kellogg, Kerry Trotter and Dave Hoppen. To the 90s with Erick Strickland and Andre Woolridge up until now with Agoy, Patton and Khyri Thomas. There have always been good players in Omaha. Keeping those players in state is what will make all three state programs better, not simply playing meaningless high risk games that have little benefit.

 

[big red22]

Want to know when I was butthurt as a Nebraska Basketball fan? I was pretty ####### butthurt on this day.

I left there wishing the opponent had been UNO instead because maybe the Huskers would have shown up knowing it was a lose/lose situation.

UNO would be a hindrance for Nebraska... just the same and Samford and IW. The problem is we don't need to create a Catch 22 in scheduling UNO. We aren't scared of any team let alone UNO. There is absolutely nothing that Nebraska/Creighton gains

It's the same reason you never see Duke scheduling Nebraska. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM IT! Yeah Duke is afraid of Nebraska <<< Sorry that is not the right word for these types of games.

Why put yourself in an uncomfortable situation when you don't have to?

Also Please show me how Lose/Lose means you are scared? It means the better team doesn't want to be put in a quandary like that.

 

[newAD]

I understand UNO was D2 back then. how did that benefit anyone?


You told me what UNO has to gain.

As far as looking like chickenshits, both Creighton and Nebraska play top level teams in their non conference. It's not being scared. Read my betting on the favorite post again to understand the difference between scared and wise.

When and if UNO becomes a program that is winning games, not just hanging in there against KState and USC, when they sell out Baxter (9000) and not draw 1800 fans, they will become less of a risk to play.

The Omaha basketball scene has been very consistent over the years. If you go back to when my dad and uncles played with and against Ron Boone, Fred Hare and Bob Boozer to the mid 1970s with Mike McGee and on to the 80s with Cedric Hunter, Ron Kellogg, Kerry Trotter and Dave Hoppen. To the 90s with Erick Strickland and Andre Woolridge up until now with Agoy, Patton and Khyri Thomas. There have always been good players in Omaha. Keeping those players in state is what will make all three state programs better, not simply playing meaningless high risk games that have little benefit.

And I'm aftaid Nebraska is well on their way to not getting any local guys like those you mentioned if they come around in the next few years. I'd love to see another class like the 82 class, but If they are all from Omaha good luck. Every high school and AAU coach I know sees it for what it is, that Miles was scared to schedule the Mavs the last 2 years. Do you think the kids don't see that?

 

[newAD]

Also Please show me how Lose/Lose means you are scared? It means the better team doesn't want to be put in a quandary like that.

Then I guess if CU beats Nebraska this year they shouldn't schedule them any more and be put in that possible quandary. They are clearly are and have been the better team since McDermott got there.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

This thread wouldn't exist if we weren't so crappy at basketball....

GBR

Who is "we" today?

 

[big red22]

And I'm aftaid Nebraska is well on their way to not getting any local guys like those you mentioned if they come around in the next few years. I'd love to see another class like the 82 class, but If they are all from Omaha good luck. Every high school and AAU coach I know sees it for what it is, that Miles was scared to schedule the Mavs the last 2 years. Do you think the kids don't see that?

Prove it or get out.... You know all the AAU coaches around town?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

And I'm aftaid Nebraska is well on their way to not getting any local guys like those you mentioned if they come around in the next few years. I'd love to see another class like the 82 class, but If they are all from Omaha good luck. Every high school and AAU coach I know sees it for what it is, that Miles was scared to schedule the Mavs the last 2 years. Do you think the kids don't see that?

So I am to believe that an Omaha kid isn't going to pick Nebraska and have an opportunity to play against Michigan St, Indiana, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Ohio St and so on because Nebraska won't play a middle of the road Summit League team? That would be like the kid from Chicago not choosing DePaul because they won't play Chicago St. or the kid from Raleigh, NC that doesn't choose Wake Forest because they won't play Campbell or High Point university.

Who thinks this way? And God help the kids and their parent(s) who listen to such asinine advice.

 

[big red22]

So I am to believe that an Omaha kid isn't going to pick Nebraska and have an opportunity to play against Michigan St, Indiana, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Ohio St and so on because Nebraska won't play a middle of the road Summit League team? That would be like the kid from Chicago not choosing DePaul because they won't play Chicago St. or the kid from Raleigh, NC that doesn't choose Wake Forest because they won't play Campbell or High Point university.

Who thinks this way? And God help the kids and their parent(s) who listen to such asinine advice.

Bingo!

 

[newAD]

Prove it or get out.... You know all the AAU coaches around town?

Reading comprehension. I never said ALL. I said THAT I KNOW.

 

[newAD]

So I am to believe that an Omaha kid isn't going to pick Nebraska and have an opportunity to play against Michigan St, Indiana, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Ohio St and so on because Nebraska won't play a middle of the road Summit League team? That would be like the kid from Chicago not choosing DePaul because they won't play Chicago St. or the kid from Raleigh, NC that doesn't choose Wake Forest because they won't play Campbell or High Point university.

Who thinks this way? And God help the kids and their parent(s) who listen to such asinine advice.

Nope they will pick Creighton because they are the better team that has nothing to gain by playing a bottom Big 10 team.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Nope they will pick Creighton because they are the better team that has nothing to gain by playing a bottom Big 10 team.

Put the shovel down. That hole you're digging is plenty deep.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

This thread has taught me that Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, UConn, Arizona, etc etc etc are too scared to play Nebraska. Hell we all know Michigan State is, because Miles owns their horrible coach.

 

[newAD]

Put the shovel down. That hole you're digging is plenty deep.

Why this is comical. I'm pointing out the truth about Nebraska not wanting to play UNO but somehow I'm the bad guy?

Nebraska is above damn near no one in baskeball. Maybe they start to show something this season? A program that lost to Samford and Incarnate Word in the last 2 years is not above playing a Summit League team.

There is little buzz aroud Omaha about Nebraska basketball, it's all about CU. For numerous reasons, CU has 2 starters from Omaha, Nebraska, zero. Nebraska basically pulled an offer from Arop (who they probably should not have offered as a 10th grader, but did), and now Nebraska looks like the bad guy to the kids, that's perception. Nebraska needs to do something to get on people's radar here soon.

Don't compare elite teams and who they schedule and dont to Nebraska basketball. Nebraska has never been elite. Elite gets invited to play elite early in the season.

If I'm digging a hole, it's for this program, because if MIles doesn't turn it around, and Nebraska loses Omaha as a recruiting and fan base, good luck on ever being relevant.

 

[GBRhuskers]

I'm pointing out the truth about Nebraska not wanting to play UNO

You're pointing out your opinion, which is far from the truth. The truth is, Miles led Nebraska is 2-0 against Omaha. The truth is, Miles led Nebraska is 0-5 against Creighton. The truth is, Creighton hasn't scheduled Omaha within the same time frame. The truth can be proven, which is what I did. Your opinion can't be proven, there's absolutely zero evidence to support your opinion.

A program that lost to Samford and Incarnate Word in the last 2 years is not above playing a Summit League team.

Nebraska plays South Dakota next weekend. USD is a Summit league team.

You claim to be a super fan, but know very little.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Now I think you are being a little sensitive and emotional. Maybe it is the holidays but it will pass. I don't think you're the bad guy, I just don't think playing or not playing UNO has any sort of bearing on if a local kid goes to Creighton, Nebraska, UNO or out of state.

Now to discuss some of your concerns.

As long as I can remember there has always been a Creighton fan base in Omaha. People who went to school there, maybe don't like football, dislike the amount of attention Nebraska football gets in the state, whatever the reason. There has always been a little buzz, they have always drawn a decent crowd, and a great crowd when the product is good and the buzz around the program increases similarly. The two kids from Omaha have been on the team for about 17 months prior to that you have to go back to Antoine Young and Josh Jones to find any local kids who played significant roles. I guess you could say Altman having ties to the state may have helped create the latest buzz but for the most part it was created because they built a solid program up there. When they switch leagues and joined the Big East, it really took off.

I wasn't comparing Elite teams. DePaul is bottom of the Big East, Wake Forest hasn't been good since Dino Guadio ran the club in 2010. The point was that a local player with ACC or Big East ability, doesn't leave simply because DePaul or Wake isn't playing a middle of the road low major program.

As far as falling into some sort of abyss because the Omaha recruiting base and fan base will ignore Nebraska basketball. I think you are reaching there. even at below .500, Nebraska is still bringing in 14,500 to 15,000 plus every game and they aren't all driving from Omaha. If Miles can win games and become relevant Nebraska will be fine.

I talk to people in the basketball world and Arop was a mistake to offer so young. But no one is pulling out the Tim Miles voodoo dolls in Omaha.

I am out. Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy the Iowa game.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

Kansas quit playing Wichita St because the series was non-competitive. Wichita St is better now, but KU won't play them because Gregg is a grade-A jacka$$. Why would Self throw him a bone?