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The purge

Won’t disagree that a lot of tumblers were in place but who left first? We did...why? Texas and the suck ups.
CU actually left a day before we did.

Big 12 is trash barely holding on until the GOR expires. Would have been stupid to stay
Big12 is doing just fine.

Fiscal year 2017

SEC: $41 million (actual)
Big Ten: $38.5 million (reported)
Big 12: $34.3 (actual)
Pac-12: $30.5 million (projected)
ACC: $26 million (projected)
 
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Look at it like this . . . nobody gives a rats ass about women's sports (except competitive bikini volleyball), yet B1G have to fund them. Thanx 1972 SJW's. Grrrrrrrrr.
Are you sure your name is "Bittner" not Bitter table for one. Been to a volleyball game lately?
 
CU actually left a day before we did.


Big12 is doing just fine.

Fiscal year 2017

SEC: $41 million (actual)
Big Ten: $38.5 million (reported)
Big 12: $34.3 (actual)
Pac-12: $30.5 million (projected)
ACC: $26 million (projected)
May have” left” a Day early .... technically... however, NEVER would have of their own thought
 
The interest in Nebraska was generated from being a blue blood long before Perlman. With respect to athletics he grades an F in my book.
We did still have some blue blood weight back then.. but it didn't show up in the negotiations. Perlman was interested in the academic side of things.. no one considered what it would do to our history and identity. We gave up a big influential seat at the old table, to have a non-influential seat at the new table.
 
CU actually left a day before we did.


Big12 is doing just fine.

Fiscal year 2017

SEC: $41 million (actual)
Big Ten: $38.5 million (reported)
Big 12: $34.3 (actual)
Pac-12: $30.5 million (projected)
ACC: $26 million (projected)

What are these numbers? Our reported payout for 17-18 was over 50 million
 
We did still have some blue blood weight back then.. but it didn't show up in the negotiations. Perlman was interested in the academic side of things.. no one considered what it would do to our history and identity. We gave up a big influential seat at the old table, to have a non-influential seat at the new table.
How big and influential was our seat at the old table? 1 vote is one vote, and nobody was siding with us (maybe this is simplistic, I suppose...).

I do miss some of the games against old big 8 foes, but we will create an identity in the B1G. It just takes time.
 
We did still have some blue blood weight back then.. but it didn't show up in the negotiations. Perlman was interested in the academic side of things.. no one considered what it would do to our history and identity. We gave up a big influential seat at the old table, to have a non-influential seat at the new table.
Perlman was scrambling to convince B1G he was running a school that could some day measure up to B1G schools.
 
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Tin foil hat time: this was planned a while ago like back in the early 90s, we're all headed for a P5 only league!
 
How big and influential was our seat at the old table? 1 vote is one vote, and nobody was siding with us (maybe this is simplistic, I suppose...).

I do miss some of the games against old big 8 foes, but we will create an identity in the B1G. It just takes time.
This is true in that we only had one vote, however, revenue was not shared equally among the schools back then either. The top revenue schools were the decision makers, and it did turn into a problem with Texas trying to run everything, but we had a lot of influence in general.
 
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This is true in that we only had one vote, however, revenue was not shared equally among the schools back then either. The top revenue schools were the decision makers, and it did turn into a problem with Texas trying to run everything, but we had a lot of influence in general.

The top revenue schools, OU, Texas, A&M and Nebraska, were taking a bigger cut of the Big 12 pie. Nebraska and A&M got mad when Texas decided to capitalize on their brand and earn even more. Nebraska and A&M were fine with earning more than the other 8 schools because they deserved it but for some reason had a problem with Texas maximizing its revenue, by creating the Longhorn Network, instead of splitting the pie on a Big 12 network.
 
The top revenue schools, OU, Texas, A&M and Nebraska, were taking a bigger cut of the Big 12 pie. Nebraska and A&M got mad when Texas decided to capitalize on their brand and earn even more. Nebraska and A&M were fine with earning more than the other 8 schools because they deserved it but for some reason had a problem with Texas maximizing its revenue, by creating the Longhorn Network, instead of splitting the pie on a Big 12 network.
To add, NU was considering starting their own network before or at the same time as the Longhorn Network. If I recall correctly (someone chime in if this is inaccurate), NU didn't get the numbers they wanted to make it viable and pivoted to pushing for a conference network, while Texas had a ton of cache at the time in the post-Vince Young/current-Colt McCoy era (plus a much larger population base) and was able to strike a much larger deal for themselves.
 
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To add, NU was considering starting their own network before or at the same time as the Longhorn Network. If I recall correctly (someone chime in if this is inaccurate), NU didn't get the numbers they wanted to make it viable and pivoted to pushing for a conference network, while Texas had a ton of cache at the time in the post-Vince Young/current-Colt McCoy era (plus a much larger population base) and was able to strike a much larger deal for themselves.

Yes, the narrative that "Texas was trying to run everything and being unfair to the rest of the league" is one of convenience and rationalization, IMO. I think our leaving was as much out of frustration with how we were performing (particularly against UT) as much as anything. Just one man's opinion.
 
Yes, the narrative that "Texas was trying to run everything and being unfair to the rest of the league" is one of convenience and rationalization, IMO. I think our leaving was as much out of frustration with how we were performing (particularly against UT) as much as anything. Just one man's opinion.
I would respectfully disagree...we were as good as anyone in the North, Texas was HARDLY dominating the South....we were the only ones with the gumption to say forget you and your sorry ESPN Channel...which btw, it TOTALLY is...
 
I would respectfully disagree...we were as good as anyone in the North, Texas was HARDLY dominating the South....we were the only ones with the gumption to say forget you and your sorry ESPN Channel...which btw, it TOTALLY is...

The only reason we had the "gumption" to say forget you and your sorry ESPN channel is because we didn't have the numbers to do our own and without Texas the Big12 network would not have been successful. That is more sour grapes than gumption though.
 
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If aTm, UT, OU, OSU, CU, MU all leave, which they were all saying was a possibility...then sour grapes or not, Nebraska had to jump at the B1G or MU possibly locks it up at that time....and Nebraska ain't going to the ACC PAC or SEC....very comfortably that is.

I don't don't see the move as a Nebraska vs Texas thing at all. But a lot of Huskers fans sure seem to see everything from losses on the field glasses. Who cares, they wouldn't of won forever. And the moves to place everything Big12 Texas centric with no rotation was given life by the northern schools votes. You can't blame the south for voting the way they did. Shorter drive to the CCG
 
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If aTm, UT, OU, OSU, CU, MU all leave, which they were all saying was a possibility...then sour grapes or not, Nebraska had to jump at the B1G or MU possibly locks it up at that time....and Nebraska ain't going to the ACC PAC or SEC....very comfortably that is.

I don't don't see the move as a Nebraska vs Texas thing at all. But a lot of Huskers fans sure seem to see everything from losses on the field glasses. Who cares, they wouldn't of won forever. And the moves to place everything Big12 Texas centric with no rotation was given life by the northern schools votes. You can't blame the south for voting the way they did. Shorter drive to the CCG

My point on sour grapes was the fact that Nebraska, OU and aTm were fine taking a bigger chunk of the money from the little 8, but when Texas decided to take ESPNs money, aTm and Nebraska were pissed because they wanted to start at Big 12 network and needed Texas to be involved. That was sour grapes. Finding a landing spot when the Big 12 looked to be falling apart, that was just business. But you will never convince me that had Texas decided to have at Big 12 network, instead of the LHN, that the Big 12 wouldn't still be intact today. Because, Texas, aTm, OU and Nebraska would have taken a bigger share of that too.
 
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My point on sour grapes was the fact that Nebraska, OU and aTm were fine taking a bigger chunk of the money from the little 8, but when Texas decided to take ESPNs money, aTm and Nebraska were pissed because they wanted to start at Big 12 network and needed Texas to be involved. That was sour grapes. Finding a landing spot when the Big 12 looked to be falling apart, that was just business. But you will never convince me that had Texas decided to have at Big 12 network, instead of the LHN, that the Big 12 wouldn't still be intact today. Because, Texas, aTm, OU and Nebraska would have taken a bigger share of that too.

I would co-sign this post.
 
Hopefully we get on track in football. The move to the BIG was based on football and we haven’t delivered. The benefits in football prestige were supposed to balance the academic concerns. Not sure the BIG, at times, doesn’t have second thoughts as well.
 
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Things might have also been different had Dan Beebe not been the commissioner. He wasn't providing any conference tv network leadership at all, and this led to teams looking at doing their own thing to begin with.
 
Things might have also been different had Dan Beebe not been the commissioner. He wasn't providing any conference tv network leadership at all, and this led to teams looking at doing their own thing to begin with.
Remember when Dan Beebe refused to travel to Lincoln to award Nebraska the Big 12 North division trophy in 2010?
 
We have hashed this out a million times... slice it anyway you want it, our legitimate hatred of Texas arrogance was behind our move. I miss big 8 as someone said... not one second of Big 12.

It was the Texas's AD response to a direct question from Osborne about TV rights, now that response may have stemmed from arrogance but it was the response, not the arrogance, that drove the decision.
 
Hopefully we get on track in football. The move to the BIG was based on football and we haven’t delivered. The benefits in football prestige were supposed to balance the academic concerns. Not sure the BIG, at times, doesn’t have second thoughts as well.

Yes, true enough. HCSF getting here in the nick of time.....
 
We did still have some blue blood weight back then.. but it didn't show up in the negotiations. Perlman was interested in the academic side of things.. no one considered what it would do to our history and identity. We gave up a big influential seat at the old table, to have a non-influential seat at the new table.
Perlman gave up our seat LONG before we could recover. I will inject, what is usually an unpopular idea....... Perlman hated Husker Athletics. He did whatever was needed to maintain his power. He did so many things behind the scenes. We are truly in a new era.
 
Perlman gave up our seat LONG before we could recover. I will inject, what is usually an unpopular idea....... Perlman hated Husker Athletics. He did whatever was needed to maintain his power. He did so many things behind the scenes. We are truly in a new era.
I have always thought this about him. The vibe from him was all academics, and a boiling point almost hatred for anything football or athletics related. I think you're spot on.
 
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