Not exactly the results we would want our new AD to go after and hire...I assume.
Thank God Osborne is being consulted
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Whenever this gets brought up and real recruiting numbers are posted there are a group of people who say they don't use the Rivals (or Scouts or 247) numbers. They look deeper or they have their own numbers...and those show that Riley is getting it done in terms of recruiting. I just wish someone would tell me where I can find these super secret recruiting numbers that show we have killed it the last three years.
For those of us who are stuck using Rivals and other recruiting services, the mid to low 20's isn't something to write home about. (Unless your home is in Corvallis. Then you can write home about those numbers.)
False, I use the same numbers and reasoning from 2004 to 2016.
There isn't a program without TO....how can you be so dense?
I'm not debating that. Not sure why you'd point out the obvious as a counter to what I posted.
Erstad is failing. Miles is failing. Bo failed. Those are facts.
I agree that Davis has been an excellent coach. Excellent. He's just a terrible recruiter. If we adjusted our recruiting model a bit to get him significant help on the recruiting front I'd accept that. But I have to assume we could get a RB coach that could be solid on both fronts.
I understand the commentary on Dubs; however, perhaps it was our own fanbase that fanned those flames? Maybe we should have waited a bit before we crowned him. Our lack of WR depth, which is a direct result of recruiting misses, is certainly killing us right now.
Coaching > recruiting, and it shouldn't even be a discussion.
Meh. It's not just recruiting either, his position group is as inconsistent as any other group.
I agree with that. I'm just of the opinion that a place like Nebraska should have better backs on the roster. Our backs are solid. Tre is very good. I just think we need support on the RB recruiting.
No argument from me on WR consistency. It's been a problem. We will see if it tightens up.
Edit: Cav has to go no matter what, yes? We used to talk about Barney and you likely recall I was against him pretty early on (ca. 2010). But his lines were better than what we are seeing right now.
You're giving him more credit than he deserves calling him shitty. He's much worse.
As always.....excuses, excuses, excuses. Gee, just "maybe" if he wasn't losing all over the place our AD wouldn't have been fired?
IMO, people under value our RB quality due to poor OL play. Ya, I'd like better but they're not garbage.
Cav is toast, barring a miracle turnaround.
Bingo!
In any random 5 minutes TO will forget more about cfb than those clowns will ever learn.
If you think MR is getting us to 9 wins, I have all kinds of things to sell you.
So pray tell
Yea Osborne=bad AD, but in last twenty years we've hired two "true" AD's and what do we get in return- Callahan and Riley. I hate Pelini and Solich (meh) but Pelini and Solich> Callahan and Riley by a wide margin
The hate for Davis is proof fans here thi everything is about recruiting.
Davis must be a good COACH.
I'm starting to think some of you guys are truly stupid. We were going to lose more games, many more, before SE was fired. Nobody is saying otherwise. But it's not an excuse to point out that making that decision in September makes the hill steeper for Riley and staff.
To your point, it's pretty clear at this point the firing was about SE and not Riley.
Ummmm cool? So Osborne sucked but he was better than SP and SE? That's what you want to hang your hat on? Go for it.
You know what I mean. People that want him fired. It's always about recruiting.
You don't have a clue. That's not what happened at all. You are confusing that with what Perlman did to Osborne. Byrne was well aware of What Osborne wanted and was in no way blindsided.
Well, in my few weeks here, your posting history looks a lot like PR for Mike Riley. You seem to be unaware of what is happening to the program. So, yeah, seems like a fair question to me.
I never said Byrne didn't know what Tom wanted to do. EVERYBODY and I mean EVERYBODY knew that TO wanted Solich to succeed him. DUH.
And TO knew Byrne did want to just automatically hand the keys over to Solich. Just because the Athletic Director knows what the head coach wants, doesn't mean that the Athletic Director has to go along with it.
So TO used his status to get what he wanted. So TO retiring and Solich taking over was leaked to the media. That way if Byrne stopped it, he'd be vilified and ran out of town.
So Byrne left when he had the chance to go to a bigger school and actually got to do all the duties of an Athletic Director.
TO played chicken with Byrne, and won. TO has a PhD in Psychology. Don't think he didn't put that to use outside of the football field once in awhile.
TO and Solich still being discussed? Was a disaster waiting to happen. Great staff that worked well under Tom.
But you had great but OLD coaches in Tenopir, Young, McBride, Darlington. Probably not the desire to get out on the road and recruit like they once did. Couple that with taking orders from a former peer. Jealousy?
For all he did for the program, why the need to defend a decision that was obviously flawed however well intentioned.
But you had great but OLD coaches in Tenopir, Young, McBride, Darlington. Probably not the desire to get out on the road and recruit like they once did. Couple that with taking orders from a former peer. Jealousy?
For all he did for the program, why the need to defend a decision that was obviously flawed however well intentioned.
LMAO. Ok. I'll play this 'I'm a new guy' game with you. You mean like the post I made after the NIU game? The one where I deemed our play completely unacceptable?
Tunnel vision from you guys.
Everyone agrees he's an outstanding coach. The results on the field from his unit speak for themselves. The question is how to get some elite backs under his guidance. Like I said before, my desire would be to get Williams tagging with him on some guys. Williams should be the lead with some support from Reggie after the hook is in.
here's a pretty interesting comment from a husker fan:
"I need to be careful about betraying confidence, but this decision came down quickly and unilaterally from Hank Bounds. I received a brief message prior to his briefing with the BoR (absent Hal Daub) on Wednesday night. From my prior post about Shawn and the state of the athletic department obviously I was surprised by this news. On Thursday morning after he and Ronnie had officially removed Shawn we had another discussion. While I agreed with some of his opinions it was clear to me that the timeline and resolution process had not been thoroughly addressed prior to acting. I expressed that concern. We discussed other issues that I won't reveal here but I could only describe his immediate plans as high risk plate spinning. One thing is clear, Nebraska fans should get used to having a university system president who will be extremely heavy-handed concerning the UNL athletic department going forward. This type of management has been met with mixed results at other universities and I'm not sure how it'll be received by Nebraska faithful in the long term. For those fans who wish for a "back to the future" philosophy for Nebraska football, I can tell you that's not Hank's long term vision as expressed to me. You can expect him to leverage the Husker family to sell his current decisions but they're not going to be put into permanent decision-making positions; that should be interpreted to mean the permanent AD and head coach for football. *Edit: I should mention that Dave has been contacted about the interim role and he would have a chance at a permanent spot should he share Hank's vision completely. I'm not sure Dave is interested in being Hank's hired hand in the long run.
Concerning Mike Riley, it's very important for him to win today and next week. Hank likes Mike but he's demanding immediate results. Should we lose today, expect fireworks.
This is uncharted waters for Husker athletics. Previously, the machinations of the athletic department has always resulted from intense debate between the AD, Chancellor, President, BoR, and select boosters. Now it's the Hank Bounds show."
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