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Not an educator, but will eliminating the dep. of Ed stop teachers from talking about trans stuff?
Right?

There is this weird idea about the Dept of Ed and it has become something that it is not.

Ideally, most school stuff would be done at the state level or city level, it makes more sense that way. But for the most part the Dept of Ed just gives out money...
 
Not an educator, but will eliminating the dep. of Ed stop teachers from talking about trans stuff?
maybe not, but if the state is able to withhold funds or determine where the funds go rather than the federal government, perhaps some of the school superintendents or school boards will think twice before turning a blind eye to it.
 
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@WHCSC I know from many of conversations you are a pretty conservative guy. Since you are laughing at my comment I have a question for you. First, do you think it is appropriate for a teacher to say to a elementary student "No, you can't go play jump rope. Are your parents supporting homosexuality? You need to play football with the boys like normal boys do." The problem is in a public school it is important to be nuetral on such topics. So hey Mr. WHCSC can I go play jumo rope with the girls. What do you say to that kid without overstepping? Remember you are not this kids parents.

My point is, it is a public school teachers job to teach Math, Science, English etc... if you want a specific faith taught you send them to a private school of your liking.

My kid goes to a Catholic School, because I want my morals that I teach at home to be extended by the school. Public schools are meant to be nuetral.
I wish all PS teachers were neutral like you
 
maybe not, but if the state is able to withhold funds or determine where the funds go rather than the federal government, perhaps some of the school superintendents or school boards will think twice before turning a blind eye to it.
The federal government gives money directly to school districts? I thought it all flowed through the state anyway?
 
Right?

There is this weird idea about the Dept of Ed and it has become something that it is not.

Ideally, most school stuff would be done at the state level or city level, it makes more sense that way. But for the most part the Dept of Ed just gives out money...
And requirements for that money. There are always strings attached to Federal money.
 
And requirements for that money. There are always strings attached to Federal money.
I have no problem eliminating those strings, but at that point why not just stop giving out any federal money towards schools and let the states entirely fund their own schools? I'm guessing the south wouldn't like that though.
 
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It’d eliminate the mandate coming from the feds and allow individual states to decide how they wanna represent, as it should be.
Ok. You made it sound like the department of education was involved with teachers promoting kids being trans. So how will eliminating this mandate help stop teachers from promoting trans beliefs?
 
Ok. You made it sound like the department of education was involved with teachers promoting kids being trans. So how will eliminating this mandate help stop teachers from promoting trans beliefs?
Fed dept of Ed ABSOLUTELY has been promoting ‘trans rights’, hell they’ve made it central to their platform! There’s mandatory training for this shit! If there’s no mandatory policy from the feds, just having it be a state-level matter will solve most of the problem right there. If a particular state or municipal school board wanna go full-on trans hysteria, so be it, just would love to see parents have an option outta there.

It’s an indoctrination issue. That fact that it’s even a discussion proves how bad it got within the federal department. It’s a moonbat radical, activist position that was being forced on the entirety of public education. They’re castrating the beast :)
 
Example from my last test, subtle but maybe enough to change a few kids genders. (I purposely leave off the "false" option and then I tell them "Oh, don't worry, you all just get the free point for answering")

Question 8:

Being Trans is awesome

A: True
I dated this hs teacher once and we got super fvcked up and she let me grade her papers. One moron got like every answer wrong so I just wrote “wtf” instead of a score
 
I can tell you exactly when us teachers became "the bad guys"

When Covid hit and kids had to learn from home...us teachers were "heroes", there were videos posted all over showing students and parents driving by their teachers house just to wave at them, to honk their horn and thank them for all they did. There were drive by and walk by graduations, just so teachers could once again see their students.

There were thank you videos to teachers and cards sent, all to those "heroes"

That was in March and until May, a few short months of those students learning from home.

Then August his and in American there were still well over 1000 people dying per day and almost all jobs that COULD switch did switch to Work From Home.

But now, those same parents that called us heroes had been stuck at home with their kids, 24/7 since the end of March and they were NOT about to do that again.

When the first group of teachers mentioned that they might be a bit worried about returning to the classroom with students, well, the shit hit the fan.

Those parents realized they hated being at home all day with their kids, not because they don't love their kids but because it is ****ing annoying to be with them 24/7.

So what did they do? They attacked teachers. Now teachers were just being "lazy" because they did not want to have kids in person. Teachers were making it "political" because they did not want to have kids in person. Teachers were attacked for "only working 9 months a year" it was crazy but parents did not care, they just did not want to have their kids home from 730 to 330 5 days a week.

So when it started? It started that August.
Certainly a lot of that is true. However it is disingenuous to not admit that the overwhelmingly liberal bias of most teachers, administrators, and the curriculum had a big part in this shift against public schools.
 
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Certainly a lot of that is true. However it is disingenuous to not admit that the overwhelmingly liberal bias of most teachers, administrators, and the curriculum had a big part in this shift against public schools

I believe most of the issues began when the fear of being cancelled was rampant. The unions and the school boards in liberal parts of the country were basically blackmail by a relatively few individuals. They forced people into silence or at a minimum get them to not act out to stop some of the far left initiatives out of fear of being called out on social media or even fired. This was especially true after George Floyd, during the summer of 2020 and beyond. What turned out to be a few fringe radicals, they were able to control unions and boards with fear. Then it snowballed. Think about it, there aren't that many trans people in the world, yet the entire world was focused on these parties were trans men were dancing in front of children. Why? because the far left new ran with it. Then the sheep who only pay attention to MSNBC and CNN were also to scared to call it out, so they just let it go as well. Most probably don't even agree with it, but by then it was too late. The sheep following blindly is still happening now, same fear even. Look at the Trump speech on Tuesday, how do you not stand and clap for a kid with brain cancer? How do you not publicly support the parents Jocelyn Nungary and Lakin Riley? Why would you do childish things like hold up a stupid sign that says Liar? Because there is a fear of losing their status. Many say it behind closed doors, but out in the public, crickets.

Now that the public is slowly getting it's voice back, the fear of cancellation is decreasing. People are more willing to state their opinion on social media and in public. People are starting to question why they followed the words of Maddow, Lemon and the Morning Joe. Tons of those programs are being cancelled because of low viewership numbers.
 
I believe most of the issues began when the fear of being cancelled was rampant. The unions and the school boards in liberal parts of the country were basically blackmail by a relatively few individuals. They forced people into silence or at a minimum get them to not act out to stop some of the far left initiatives out of fear of being called out on social media or even fired. This was especially true after George Floyd, during the summer of 2020 and beyond. What turned out to be a few fringe radicals, they were able to control unions and boards with fear. Then it snowballed. Think about it, there aren't that many trans people in the world, yet the entire world was focused on these parties were trans men were dancing in front of children. Why? because the far left new ran with it. Then the sheep who only pay attention to MSNBC and CNN were also to scared to call it out, so they just let it go as well. Most probably don't even agree with it, but by then it was too late. The sheep following blindly is still happening now, same fear even. Look at the Trump speech on Tuesday, how do you not stand and clap for a kid with brain cancer? How do you not publicly support the parents Jocelyn Nungary and Lakin Riley? Why would you do childish things like hold up a stupid sign that says Liar? Because there is a fear of losing their status. Many say it behind closed doors, but out in the public, crickets.

Now that the public is slowly getting it's voice back, the fear of cancellation is decreasing. People are more willing to state their opinion on social media and in public. People are starting to question why they followed the words of Maddow, Lemon and the Morning Joe. Tons of those programs are being cancelled because of low viewership numbers.
Chick think rules education

This post is even more naive than your unwillingness to admit the obvious bias that has always existed in your spinster dominated field
 
Certainly a lot of that is true. However it is disingenuous to not admit that the overwhelmingly liberal bias of most teachers, administrators, and the curriculum had a big part in this shift against public schools.
I mean, it is not disingenuous, it is literally the timeline of how things went.

Parents hated having their kids at home 24/7, I get it, that totally makes sense to me. Parents started to work from home and already started thinking about how great it was going to be to drop timmy off at school at 7:15 and have the house to themselves all day while they "worked" and napped and went to the gym and went to the store and met out friends for lunch and so on.

That was the shift. Again, I totally get it. That is normal to not want to be around your kid 24/7.

If it was what you say it is, those parents would have WANTED to keep their kids home and away from the evil brainwashing teachers.
 
Cops got turned on before teachers, firemen have yet to get turned on which is amazing. They don't do a ****ing thing.
 
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Cops got turned on before teachers, firemen have yet to get turned on which is amazing. They don't do a ****ing thing.

..watching 3 firetrucks rolling up to your home that's burning will change that outlook right fast....and i'm glad they aren't needed most of the time, but when they are, and its your home, you DGAF if they didn't have to leave the station for the last several days or what their salary is. You're just thankful to have em.
 
Every private school has a "resource" department that I know of and they work with all the kids that have IEPs and some that don't but clearly need help.
The ones I am familiar with will take IEP kids and bring in public school teachers from public schools to serve the IEP kids. They also can take kids in a van to the public school at the public school's expense. If a private school out there has their own resource department I would love to know which schools those are. And I would commend that private school for doing so.
 
Fed dept of Ed ABSOLUTELY has been promoting ‘trans rights’, hell they’ve made it central to their platform! There’s mandatory training for this shit! If there’s no mandatory policy from the feds, just having it be a state-level matter will solve most of the problem right there. If a particular state or municipal school board wanna go full-on trans hysteria, so be it, just would love to see parents have an option outta there.

It’s an indoctrination issue. That fact that it’s even a discussion proves how bad it got within the federal department. It’s a moonbat radical, activist position that was being forced on the entirety of public education. They’re castrating the beast :)
As an independent I try to see both sides. I 100% am anti trans for sports, legal documents, being normalized in schools and pronouns. However I see both sides on the matter, because in the grand scheme of things I don't think it should be such a govermental issue. There have been drag queens since the 1880's and there wiĺl be drag queens after I am in the ground. Where the left went wrong in their fight for equal rights is the four things I mentioned above.

In my opinion if a business owner doesn't want to hire a trans person because they fear it may lose customers. It should be the business owners choice to say no. In retrospect, the business owner also has the right to hire drag queens as all their servers. Then it is up to the consumer to decide on which places they want to go. That is freedom of choice and that is what I believe freedom is.

Where the right is wrong is they are acting like trans people our ruining our country. The facts are it should not be a focal point of political debate. It hurts the constitution of united states in no way IMO. I believe whole heartedly that some teachers these days are leaning liberal, but I also know a lot of liberal teachers as I dated a teacher, and I can tell you not one of them were encouraging kids to normalize trans, but they were ok with educating kids about the differences in people.
 
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Please explain how firemen don’t do a thing
Most building fires are shut down by inside sprinklers.

Homes do not catch on fire at some alarming rate. There are about 350,000 home fires each year.

Firemen spend most of their day cleaning trucks (their own trucks too), shopping for food, lifting and watching TV.

In small towns and I know this will be amazing, they are able to survive with a volunteer FD. Somehow they are able to NOT be paying 6 figures to 20 year olds that are working out and watching TV.

Firemen even ask residents to clear snow from hydrants! That would be like me asking you to make my lesson plans for me and grade my papers.
 
..watching 3 firetrucks rolling up to your home that's burning will change that outlook right fast....and i'm glad they aren't needed most of the time, but when they are, and its your home, you DGAF if they didn't have to leave the station for the last several days or what their salary is. You're just thankful to have em.
I care about the insane amount of money they get paid to not work most of the time.

Police should make twice what firemen do, maybe 3 times.
 
The ones I am familiar with will take IEP kids and bring in public school teachers from public schools to serve the IEP kids. They also can take kids in a van to the public school at the public school's expense. If a private school out there has their own resource department I would love to know which schools those are. And I would commend that private school for doing so.
Everyone in Omaha has their own resource department at the HS level.
 
I'm going to go ahead and say that their paychecks are coming from the nearest public school.
Nope!

With that said, at the K-8 level they will have their in-school resource teacher and then they will have the local public school sped teacher that can/is used at times.

I am not trying to do some "a-ha, I got you" bit, this is just how it is, I am a part of it.
 
Most building fires are shut down by inside sprinklers.

Homes do not catch on fire at some alarming rate. There are about 350,000 home fires each year.

Firemen spend most of their day cleaning trucks (their own trucks too), shopping for food, lifting and watching TV.

In small towns and I know this will be amazing, they are able to survive with a volunteer FD. Somehow they are able to NOT be paying 6 figures to 20 year olds that are working out and watching TV.

Firemen even ask residents to clear snow from hydrants! That would be like me asking you to make my lesson plans for me and grade my papers.
Fireman are also paramedics in most if not all cities.

Volunteer FD's are barely hanging on in a lot of places. Life is much different now. People don't always work in the town they live in. People travel alot. Kids sports demand more time away. Would never work in a city.
 
Fireman are also paramedics in most if not all cities.

Volunteer FD's are barely hanging on in a lot of places. Life is much different now. People don't always work in the town they live in. People travel alot. Kids sports demand more time away. Would never work in a city.
I know and I know. I just don't care. Their pay could be cut in half and everything would be fine.
 
Nope!

With that said, at the K-8 level they will have their in-school resource teacher and then they will have the local public school sped teacher that can/is used at times.

I am not trying to do some "a-ha, I got you" bit, this is just how it is, I am a part of it.
Yeah, what you are describing is what I am talking about, except the in-school resource teacher at a private school has the credentials that would place them as a para professional (teachers aide) at a public school with assistance from accredited public school teachers at the nearby school. When you say K-8, that would equate to a minimum of 10 resource teachers at a mid-sized K-8 school. Of course, that's based on need. Many resource teachers have a case load of 20-30 kids. And that's just IEP kids who are fully included in the classroom. Is that comparable to the schools you are talking about?
 
Yeah, what you are describing is what I am talking about, except the in-school resource teacher at a private school has the credentials that would be described as a para professional at a public school with assistance from accredited public school teachers at the nearby school. When you say K-8, that would equate to a minimum of 10 resource teachers at a mid-sized K-8 school. Of course, that's based on need. Many resource teachers have a case load of 20-30 kids. And that's just IEP kids who are fully included in the classroom. Is that comparable to the schools you are talking about?
Yeah that is comparable to some degree.

We have less of a case load but the rest of you what you said is pretty much the same.
 
The ones I am familiar with will take IEP kids and bring in public school teachers from public schools to serve the IEP kids. They also can take kids in a van to the public school at the public school's expense. If a private school out there has their own resource department I would love to know which schools those are. And I would commend that private school for doing so.
That's because those kids need to be served and special ed gets federal reimbursement at a lower percentage every year it seems
 
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