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Supreme Court rules on sports betting

Im calling it, next legislative session Nebraska voters pass legalized gambling AND legalized cannabis.

Any takers on that bet? By the way is that a good bet to make? I dont really gamble much and Im not too sure how this whole thing works.

If this board is any indication, their are to many feeble minded people in the cornhusker state. #woke
 
Come on. No one is truly deceived. Everyone knows the odds are against winning big.

About 3 years ago I decided I wanted to see if I could make some money betting on sports. I put aside a $2000 bankroll and when that was gone. I would be done. After 2 years and 8 months, I have $3200 in that account. I never bet more than 2 units on any one game or side. No one is deceiving me, no one with a covetous spirit is taking away anything we didn’t mutually agree to.

C'mon any good gambler has a poker face and dummy tells in order to deceive his or her impressions about their hand....any "good" gambler that is.
 
C'mon any good gambler has a poker face and dummy tells in order to deceive his or her impressions about their hand....any "good" gambler that is.

So every football coach is a deceiver and has a covetous spirit. It’s a game, just like gambling.

To be honest, I took your comments more in a macro sense. I thought you were referring to the casinos and the overall concept of gambling, the fact that casinos and lotteries deceive people into spending their money with hopes of striking it rich, not tricks of the trade.

The fact is most games of chance require no poker face. If I go to the slot machines wearing sunglasses to hide my eyes, the slot machine is not going to know. The dealer in blackjack doesn’t care if I have a 17, if she has a 16 she still has to take a card. If a smart bets $200,000 on a 6 pt dog, he isn’t necessarily deceiving anyone into betting. He still loses $200k if the team loses by 7.
 
So every football coach is a deceiver and has a covetous spirit. It’s a game, just like gambling.

To be honest, I took your comments more in a macro sense. I thought you were referring to the casinos and the overall concept of gambling, the fact that casinos and lotteries deceive people into spending their money with hopes of striking it rich, not tricks of the trade.

The fact is most games of chance require no poker face. If I go to the slot machines wearing sunglasses to hide my eyes, the slot machine is not going to know. The dealer in blackjack doesn’t care if I have a 17, if she has a 16 she still has to take a card. If a smart bets $200,000 on a 6 pt dog, he isn’t necessarily deceiving anyone into betting. He still loses $200k if the team loses by 7.

Yes on the macro sense, it is covetous wouldn't you say? Take money, which is an easy to transport medium to express the product of ones labor, ...or in another words property...then create a platform in which one goes to get someone's else's property.....without a fair exchange. Pretty simple.

No products created in order to serve anyone's good, and no services provided to meet someone's needs.

Think if all those unhealthy people who gambled spent that money on food or healthcare for themselves...or for someone in need...

Why give the middleman a cut? Why tax the gambled money at all? Wouldn't it be easier to for people to just give to an organisation that benefits from taxing a gambling house, that is if gambling were just a means to an end, that is, helping the community...unless you're a winner like yourself Tuco, in which you've lost nothing for the govt to tax?

Did you report your earnings:)
 
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Yes on the macro sense, it is covetous wouldn't you say? Take money, which is an easy to transport medium to express the product of ones labor, ...or in another words property...then create a platform in which one goes to get someone's else's property.....without a fair exchange. Pretty simple.

No products created in order to serve anyone's good, and no services provided to meet someone's needs.

Think if all those unhealthy people who gambled spent that money on food or healthcare for themselves...or for someone in need...

Why give the middleman a cut? Why tax the gambled money at all? Wouldn't it be easier to for people to just give to an organisation that benefits from taxing a gambling house, that is if gambling were just a means to an end, that is, helping the community...unless you're a winner like yourself Tuco, in which you've lost nothing for the govt to tax?

Did you report your earnings:)

Simple, it meets my entertainment need and serves my entertainment good. I choose to spend some of my discretionary income on sports gambling. You may choose to go to a movie, or out to dinner, or give yours to your church or charity of choice. That's the beauty of America, as long as it's legal, what we do with our money is our business.

Yes, I pay taxes on any gambling winnings. I also keep my tickets on losses. It works both ways.

As far as the middleman, that's the business. No different than buying your groceries from a store, instead of getting them all from the source. You have to pay a little extra for the convenience and the packaging, but that HyVee middleman saves you a bunch of time and effort.
 
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Simple, it meets my entertainment need and serves my entertainment good. I choose to spend some of my discretionary income on sports gambling. You may choose to go to a movie, or out to dinner, or give yours to your church or charity of choice. That's the beauty of America, as long as it's legal, what we do with our money is our business.

Yes, I pay taxes on any gambling winnings. I also keep my tickets on losses. It works both ways.

As far as the middleman, that's the business. No different than buying your groceries from a store, instead of getting them all from the source. You have to pay a little extra for the convenience and the packaging, but that HyVee middleman saves you a bunch of time and effort.

Then its not about all the good it can do, so its clear to all that is a distraction to all the harm it does do. 1800 bets off, is out there for a reason.

You could say HyVee contributes to obesity, which you didn't, but eating has to happen in order to live, middle man or not.

You could say someone could go into debt going out to movies, and that is a possibility, but I've never hear much of movie addiction, or a 1800 number for any such mundane legit service that you could possibly try to associate gambling with.
 
Then its not about all the good it can do, so its clear to all that is a distraction to all the harm it does do. 1800 bets off, is out there for a reason.

You could say HyVee contributes to obesity, which you didn't, but eating has to happen in order to live, middle man or not.

You could say someone could go into debt going out to movies, and that is a possibility, but I've never hear much of movie addiction, or a 1800 number for any such mundane legit service that you could possibly try to associate gambling with.

Look, I get where you are coming from. Someone close to you has been and is harmed by gambling. But in typical fashion in this country the misfortune of the few attempt to outweigh the wants of the many. Most people who drink aren’t alcoholics, most people who eat aren’t over eaters, most people who shop aren’t shopaholics. There are one 800 numbers for all of those addictions as well.

There are middleman in nearly every facet of our daily life that’s just a fact.
 
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Come on. No one is truly deceived. Everyone knows the odds are against winning big.

About 3 years ago I decided I wanted to see if I could make some money betting on sports. I put aside a $2000 bankroll and when that was gone. I would be done. After 2 years and 8 months, I have $3200 in that account. I never bet more than 2 units on any one game or side. No one is deceiving me, no one with a covetous spirit is taking away anything we didn’t mutually agree to.
What’s a unit?
 
I think gambling should be legal because it is something people do consensually and no one has a right to interfere with that. I don't like the arguments espousing the economic benefits of gambling, though. Unless a state's gaming industry is strong enough to take its money from non-residents it isn't a vehicle for local prosperity and it does come with costs. I agree, Nebraska should legalize it, but it won't do anything to close a budget gap and it's overall effect on the economy would be insignificant and probably more negative than positive.
Should prostitution be legal? It’s also consensual. I think it should be actually. Kills me when the police put on a sting operation and these lonely guys get their lives ruined because the public wants a lynching.
 
Should prostitution be legal? It’s also consensual. I think it should be actually. Kills me when the police put on a sting operation and these lonely guys get their lives ruined because the public wants a lynching.

Yes but only if there are no pimps. Take out the middle man!!!
 
WE have all sorts of gambling now, and we have the problems now without the means to help with those problems. People are going to gamble if they want so legalize it keep the millions of dollars in the state and maybe our wise leaders can figure what to do with the extra money instead of raising taxes.
 
Should prostitution be legal? It’s also consensual. I think it should be actually. Kills me when the police put on a sting operation and these lonely guys get their lives ruined because the public wants a lynching.

Absolutely. Aside from it being the right thing to do from the respecting personal autonomy standpoint, it would have a number of other benefits. Prostitutes would be safer if they could report violent johns to the police. Exploitative pimps would go out of business. And, with the industry out in the open, it would be far easier to detect and stop actual sex traffickers.
 
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Absolutely. Aside from it being the right thing to do from the respecting personal autonomy standpoint, it would have a number of other benefits. Prostitutes would be safer if they could report violent johns to the police. Exploitative pimps would go out of business. And, with the industry out in the open, it would be far easier to detect and stop actual sex traffickers.

What about non-exploitative pimps?
 
I've got a great idea, lets ask all the prostitutes we can find if that line of work is what they would chose for themselves or their children...
 
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I've got a great idea, lets ask all the prostitutes we can find if that line of work is what they would chose for themselves or their children...

$30 streetwhores or $2500 escorts? Pimp or madam? Clients being street thugs and broke ass fat dudes or clients lonely rich dudes and politicians. I’m guessing you may get different answers.
 
$30 streetwhores or $2500 escorts? Pimp or madam? Clients being street thugs and broke ass fat dudes or clients lonely rich dudes and politicians. I’m guessing you may get different answers.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most likely the root of the reasons why they would say no is the fact they've reduced themselves to an object over and over and over again, and not because they got scammed into less pay.

If a person made 2500 a pop they would still have to come to realization that the work they did they'll have to keep on doing.

And let me just speculate that legal prostitute on a resume doesn't really scream quality employee to me on a resume.
 
I have always wondered why porn is legal but prostitution is not. Where/why is the difference?

The porn I watch (I watch a lot, just the short clips, that is all I need) is people ****ing and other things (super into midgets) and I am guessing that everyone involved is paid.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most likely the root of the reasons why they would say no is the fact they've reduced themselves to an object over and over and over again, and not because they got scammed into less pay.

If a person made 2500 a pop they would still have to come to realization that the work they did they'll have to keep on doing.

And let me just speculate that legal prostitute on a resume doesn't really scream quality employee to me on a resume.


Yes because when they finish their prostitution career, they look for jobs that require a resume. I am also pretty sure they would just say unemployed to avoid the tax implications associated with an all cash, illegal business
 
I had a $2000 bank roll. A unit for me was $20.
A $20 unit with a $2,000 bankroll seems like you'd never run out. I mean, it would take an unprecedented bad run to ever run out of money. Alternatively, to get a sizable return, $20 units also would be tough to move your bankroll substantially.

I figured $2,000 would maybe have a $50 unit. That would require 40 more losers than winners to run out. And on the plus side, would require only winning 4 or 5 more games over .500 to be up 10% - better or equal to a stock market investment.
 
A $20 unit with a $2,000 bankroll seems like you'd never run out. I mean, it would take an unprecedented bad run to ever run out of money. Alternatively, to get a sizable return, $20 units also would be tough to move your bankroll substantially.

I figured $2,000 would maybe have a $50 unit. That would require 40 more losers than winners to run out. And on the plus side, would require only winning 4 or 5 more games over .500 to be up 10% - better or equal to a stock market investment.

Again for me this is entertainment not necessarily an investment, so moving the bankroll substantially wasn't necessarily the end game. I am just using funds that I would have spent on something frivolous.

Most professional betters use 1-5% of their bankroll to determine their unit. I went on the low end of that number.
 
A $20 unit with a $2,000 bankroll seems like you'd never run out. I mean, it would take an unprecedented bad run to ever run out of money. Alternatively, to get a sizable return, $20 units also would be tough to move your bankroll substantially.

I figured $2,000 would maybe have a $50 unit. That would require 40 more losers than winners to run out. And on the plus side, would require only winning 4 or 5 more games over .500 to be up 10% - better or equal to a stock market investment.

That $50(2.5%) should be about the absolute max for one unit, but 2.5% is much more than most should consider for their one unit play.

Keep in mind that a 1-unit bet is basically an action bet, while a 5-unit bet should be like a once a month thing, and 7-8+ units is a once-a-year type play.
 
That $50(2.5%) should be about the absolute max for one unit, but 2.5% is much more than most should consider for their one unit play.

Keep in mind that a 1-unit bet is basically an action bet, while a 5-unit bet should be like a once a month thing, and 7-8+ units is a once-a-year type play.
I haven't treated sports gambling units the same way I treat blackjack units, but I've considered it as an approach.

In blackjack, I press any winners + 1 unit. So if I'm on a heater, I can have 5 or 6 unit bets, but I only got there because I had won a 1, 2, 3 and 4 unit bet already. As soon as I lose, I go back to 1 unit and I never press a loser.

In sports, people tend to talk about "oh, this is a lock, so it's a 6 or 7 unit bet" - first off, I don't believe in locks. Second, when people are talking about locks, I'm more apt to take the other team.

Anyway, I just never applied my blackjack strategy to sports, but I'm wondering if that might be a better idea. The premise is, if I go 5-5 over 10 games, a single unit player breaks even. As long as the wins come in a streak, a press bettor makes money, however, if they go every other game, then a press bettor gets killed.
 
Yes because when they finish their prostitution career, they look for jobs that require a resume. I am also pretty sure they would just say unemployed to avoid the tax implications associated with an all cash, illegal business

Jobs that don't require resumes and the last set of skills utilized was to be objectified repeatedly. Sounds like a combination to exacerbate the spiritual damage from that kind of work as well.

10000 years of women trying to have a face outside a bedchamber and now they're going to have to contend with this dandy of an idea for social reconstruction....probably 99% dudes coming up with this gem.
 
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