Supposedly done deal per Brian C

[timnsun]

i notice lots of people who post the same thing over and over again. don't see you calling them trolls. my guess - their viewpoint more aligns with yours.

Wow, that's amazing... the people I happen to agree with I don't call out? Stop the presses, I'm sure that's unheard of!

But to your point, there are trolls on both sides. Some I just ignore, some are hard for me to ignore. For example, I don't think every person who posts negative stuff about the coaches is a pelini fan. That's not a place I go to when I question another person's post. If you aren't a fan of these coaches, that doesn't make you a pelini lover by default. Do I call out the posters who make those statements? No... that's just not a battle I want to fight.

What I do struggle with are the posters who have never given the coaches a chance. The ones who still aren't happy in spite of some of the changes that will hopefully make us better.

I don't agree with a lot of what people say, but don't necessarily post against them. The ones I do post against typically show a pattern of negativity, and as an optimist I respond.

When I think of a troll, I think of someone who is consistently posting negative stuff about the coaches. There's a pattern there. Maybe I'm wrong in my definition. I will admit that I probably could stand up for the players more, and I think I will more next year, as these coaches will be in year 3 with most of their own players. A big part of that is having their own QB and a healthier and deeper Oline. The explanations will run out and if things don't work then we will be looking at more excuses.

Edit: to clarify my final thought, what I meant is I think right now there are explanations for what's going on. If the same thing continues to happen in the future, the explanations will go away. Then it will be just excuses, which is not acceptable.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

i notice lots of people who post the same thing over and over again. don't see you calling them trolls. my guess - their viewpoint more aligns with yours.

Most people would welcome discussion if there was substance to the opinion. That isn't what you get from contrarians. There are people on message boards that can never be pleased with anything. They clamor for a splash hire and believe throwing money at a coach always works. They have tons of examples of how something worked 30 years ago and Tom Osborne said so is all they need for why anything else won't work. There is absolutely no room in their minds that Nebraska isn't currently a place where people are lined up waiting to coach and play. They don't really have any answers or solutions, their only opinion is that so and so isn't good enough but can't tell you who would be and 2018 we'll be 6-6 at best. There is something in their brains that doesn't understand that not everyone else in the world loves Nebraska as much as they do and can't understand why everyone in the world wouldn't want to be there.

I have high expectations for Nebraska football. I am not satisfied with the results on the field over the last 15-17 seasons but at some point we have to look at our situation and realize that we didn't get where we are overnight and that it won't be fixed overnight.

 

[bigboxes]

Most people would welcome discussion if there was substance to the opinion. That isn't what you get from contrarians. There are people on message boards that can never be pleased with anything. They clamor for a splash hire and believe throwing money at a coach always works. They have tons of examples of how something worked 30 years ago and Tom Osborne said so is all they need for why anything else won't work. There is absolutely no room in their minds that Nebraska isn't currently a place where people are lined up waiting to coach and play. They don't really have any answers or solutions, their only opinion is that so and so isn't good enough but can't tell you who would be and 2018 we'll be 6-6 at best. There is something in their brains that doesn't understand that not everyone else in the world loves Nebraska as much as they do and can't understand why everyone in the world wouldn't want to be there.

I have high expectations for Nebraska football. I am not satisfied with the results on the field over the last 15-17 seasons but at some point we have to look at our situation and realize that we didn't get where we are overnight and that it won't be fixed overnight.

Great post, Tuco! I will add that even if you could persuade Saban or Meyer to take the reins at Dear Old Nebraska U it would still take some time to rebuild the program to make it competitive. People don't want to hear that. They want 90's domination or bust! At this point we want to get back where we're 9+ wins a year and competitive.

 

[cubsker]

Most people would welcome discussion if there was substance to the opinion. That isn't what you get from contrarians. There are people on message boards that can never be pleased with anything. They clamor for a splash hire and believe throwing money at a coach always works. They have tons of examples of how something worked 30 years ago and Tom Osborne said so is all they need for why anything else won't work. There is absolutely no room in their minds that Nebraska isn't currently a place where people are lined up waiting to coach and play. They don't really have any answers or solutions, their only opinion is that so and so isn't good enough but can't tell you who would be and 2018 we'll be 6-6 at best. There is something in their brains that doesn't understand that not everyone else in the world loves Nebraska as much as they do and can't understand why everyone in the world wouldn't want to be there.

I have high expectations for Nebraska football. I am not satisfied with the results on the field over the last 15-17 seasons but at some point we have to look at our situation and realize that we didn't get where we are overnight and that it won't be fixed overnight.

nah, there are some who can't stand anything other than what they think. seen it firsthand for years. its rather amusing.

 

[chicolby]

Look at how quiet all the "Fire Miles" gang has gotten. See, they get to live in the best of both worlds. They chant fire fire fire, but no real consequences because when an AD sticks with a guy and the guy pans out, they still get the benefit.

 

[cubsker]

he won 3 games, lets not give him a parade quite yet

 

[chicolby]

he won 3 games, lets not give him a parade quite yet

Oh I missed where I threw the parade. But to not notice the talent stockpile on this team is to be blind.

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

Is it just me or does Bob Diaco remind anyone of David Miscavige.

That aside, super F'ing pumped for Diaco to be here.

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

Most people would welcome discussion if there was substance to the opinion.

What would you consider to be substance, though? On very rare occasions, we're gifted with actual statistics. However, they're usually cherry picked to represent posters' views. The rest are all opinions.

Saying this won't be fixed overnight implies posters here ever actually said that. And the posters who don't agree with the posters who supposedly said, "this needs to be fixed overnight," are the same posters who then post posts saying they don't agree with the posters' posts because they're trolls.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

What would you consider to be substance, though? On very rare occasions, we're gifted with actual statistics. However, they're usually cherry picked to represent posters' views. The rest are all opinions.

Saying this won't be fixed overnight implies posters here ever actually said that. And the posters who don't agree with the posters who supposedly said, "this needs to be fixed overnight," are the same posters who then post posts saying they don't agree with the posters' posts because they're trolls.

Supposedly said? There are posters every day that turn a blind eye to the depth on the OLine or say Cav better get this fixed this year or he needs to be gone. You can't always develop an offensive line in 2 seasons when 11 of the 16 scholarship linemen are sophomores or freshmen. The best performing linemen on the team last year Farmer and Gates, were sophomores and The 3rd best linemen, Foster, was injured and also a sophomore. Either way when depth in the OLine is brought up it's considered an excuse.

 

[timnsun]

What would you consider to be substance, though? On very rare occasions, we're gifted with actual statistics. However, they're usually cherry picked to represent posters' views. The rest are all opinions.

Saying this won't be fixed overnight implies posters here ever actually said that. And the posters who don't agree with the posters who supposedly said, "this needs to be fixed overnight," are the same posters who then post posts saying they don't agree with the posters' posts because they're trolls.

I know we've gone back and forth... but here's what I'm talking about. We just got a commit from a top 50 player, and instead of posting happily in that thread you are bitching in this thread.

I just don't get it.

 

[Snickerdoodle70]

I know we've gone back and forth... but here's what I'm talking about. We just got a commit from a top 50 player, and instead of posting happily in that thread you are bitching in this thread.

I just don't get it.

I'm stoked about Lindsey. Big time. Huge get. And hopefully more to come.

But that doesn't change the topic of this thread, man. And I was responding to someone who quoted my post. Take it easy.

 

[timnsun]

I'm stoked about Lindsey. Big time. Huge get. And hopefully more to come.

But that doesn't change the topic of this thread, man. And I was responding to someone who quoted my post. Take it easy.

No worries, didn't mean to sound snarky. A lot of people who have been outspoken haven't weighed in on that thread, and several hours had passed since the news broke.

I don't doubt that you are a fan and not a poser... I have seen enough of your posts to believe that.

We both want to see this thing turned around. We just differ in who's gonna do it. Hopefully these last 24-48 hours are signs that something is changing... we will see.