Not sold on Campbell. The 2nd half performances in all 4 games are a cause for concern. I was at the game and the team looked totally gassed midway through the third. Many players on the bench and the sidelines looked like they were going to pass out. This is an issue that hasn't been talked about a lot and might explain their poor 2nd half play. Discuss.
Strength and Conditioning
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I’ve seen people on here that say they think we do too much physical work at practices and are worn out come game time. If that’s the case, conditioning is a big problem
We’re still playing a ton of frosts players on both sides of the ball
Our staff hasn’t been able to replace them for whatever reason
Our staff hasn’t been able to replace them for whatever reason
I totally agree...all those Matt drills didn't do shit. We need to hire somebody from Iowa or Wisky, somebody that knows Big ten football.
I was on board early with the perception of too much hitting during the week. The last two weeks we have looked slow and not even methodical in the second half, prompting me to post last week IF NU gets into a high scoring affair, if we are going to be able to continue to score and keep up.
So far, we haven't.
There is one trueism in athletics: Strength does not precipitate speed.
We have a bunch of guys who have put on weight, and good weight, but it has hurt their overall quickness and reaction times.
It's very obvious, we have a team that loses conditioning and speed in the 2nd half of games. If it continues, NU will come down the stretch, maybe even beginning as early as Rutgers with the same lack of results of 2023.
No secret here, as an athlete loses their conditioning and begin to tire, they lose that mental concentration which causes those lapses in execution.
This team is in the Exhaustion Phase of any supercompensation training. When you stress the body too significantly, your motions will become stale and actually overtrained. They are trying to get the guys to hit an adaptive phase, but instead, many of them are operating in a depleted phase.
It has long been known that muscles are stupid, they will do what you train them to do. you have to trick your body. If you work slow, they will respond slow, work fast, and they will respond fast. We have too many guys that have plateaued and it is VERY hard to break through plateaus.
When Campbell asked Rhule what kind of a team he wanted this year, Rhule said, a strong team. Well, we have a strong team. But, like I said, strength does not precipitate speed.
They got the best of the best in nutrition , care, recovery, etc. They need to go into the lab with some Richie Incognito and Suh DNA to create some dudes.
When you watch Iowa tackle it looks different to me. I'll sound like a broken record but the Big ten is a physical league. Bring it or get punked.
Like I've said many times, our guys move backwards when we tackle. Instead of 2nd and 9, it's 2nd and 6. Instead of 3rd and 5, it's 3rd and 1.
Thank you for the information, it is concerning to know the reality
When my 3 year old outran Ty Robinson in the Huskers Road Race, I was concerned.
Hopefully, NU will be able to handle Purdue next week, and then the Rutgers game is gonna be a real physical challenge, cause they're gonna run the ball right at us. NU then has a bye week.
Then we launch into a couple of real challenges against Indiana and Ohio State. Those are teams NU is going to answer back offensively in the second halves, because they are gonna shred NU's defense, at least how things now stand.
If NU continues to show up flat physically, they are really gonna get rolled.
I wonder how many roids they can take and weights they can lift before the Rutgers game.
So does that mean they are all terrible and out of shape? I don’t get the correlation.
Your are essentially saying the Frost players can’t improve their skill level or their conditioning? Kind of worthless blanket statement.
We've all heard that he wants us to be the most in shape physical team so we know it's a goal. So far not even close.
last night had nothing to do with conditioning and everything to do with culture/identity
I see Nash huffing and puffing like 3 minutes into the game. That said, I do think most of the players look a lot better conditioned than they were under Frost.
Did we watch the same game ? They we're whipped by the 4th qtr. Their legs became tree stumps. Was mental before physical , that's the debate.
that's what happens to your opponent when you commit to the power run game.
ILL ran it 36 times right at us last night.
they exerted their will and broke us up front.
no amount of wind sprints can make up for that.
What I mean is sometimes "weight room " strength does not mean field strength.
If strength meant everything, all the teams with 5 OLmen who bench 500 would always win.
Besides widenening the chest, in football, the bench press is a worthless lift.
I agree. It’s beyond frustrating to see an area that we innovated in for much of our history only to see other programs beating the snot out of us in strength and conditioning.
It’s not a strength and conditioning issue it was the defensive scheme that was terrible they couldn’t get off the field on third downs especially long ones it was reminiscent to a shin defense
I am having a hard time with this. Not that your wrong, I don't know. What is freaking me out is how can this happen, the old pre-Devaney "Strength vs Speed" thing was long since solve right here at UNL when they first implemented weight training under Boyd Epley. Then it became about quick twitch and nutrition and a lot of science. Are we that lost? Did we give so much away to the rest of CF that we don't remember such things here?
Pursuit speed and tackling definitely don't look up to the standard we expect after last season. Some of this is also scheme driven because it has just been too easy for the opposing QB to find wide open receivers the last couple weeks with minimal pressure.
Also I'm tired of our OL not being more physical and controlling the LOS. We have guys with 3-4 years in the program that can't drive their guys off the ball. If we fo that and get 200-300 yards on the ground our defense won't be getting gassed as much.
What NU was doing under Boyd Epley and now is not even in the same universe. Lifting weights and taking steroids isn't comparable to modern day lifts and technology gained over the years.
Just the difference in nutrition, diet and recovery from 40 years ago is akin to comparing a tricycle to a dragster.
Some on here believe NU just called the dogs off at halftime of the early games, and I think its more a matter of not being able to pound teams for 60 minutes.
If ever there was a time for this team to rise up and keep scoring it was in the 2nd half Friday night. Yet, this team fell flat, and it wasn't because of lack of desire to keep scoring.
The games against UTEP and CU showed NU could muscle a couple of finesse teams. When it comes to matching up physically in their OLines, with teams like UNI and ILL, NU got its ass kicked physically.
There will be more ass kicking this year as things now stand.
IMO we’re undersized at linebacker and safety. Nash playing 30 lbs lighter might make him a little quicker and give him more stamina But he’s not stuffing the run as well as he did last year. Our edge guys are too light against teams like Illinois and probably Iowa.
I tried to tell people that last week. I was concerned with how UNI pushed us around at times.
I don't want to burst some of your bubbles but a lot of you seem to think that schools are all doing different things in the weight room. They are not. They pretty much all do the same exact things. As someone who has sat through a dozen or more SC presentations, it is all pretty much the same shit.
The only thing I ever saw that was kind of wild was a few years ago the Louisville SC coach had his players lift in full pads to "better simulate game like movements" .
The only thing I ever saw that was kind of wild was a few years ago the Louisville SC coach had his players lift in full pads to "better simulate game like movements" .
I know you and I, and many others take no joy in saying that, but reality says otherwise.
