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Sounds like we are hitting the portal hard

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I think the Indiana HC certainly has the right idea about who to get in the transfer portal - players who have actually produced. His philosophy is to prioritize production over potential.
Kind of how Kansas State used to use the Juco route with high producing lower level players from winning juco programs before the portal started. I don't think its a forever fix if you want top tier football, but it is a way to flip the team and then you can sprinkle those players in after.

Nebraska has tried to bring in flamed out 4 and 5 stars too much. Some work out like Trey, but most have intangible issues that will always hold them back.
 
Kind of how Kansas State used to use the Juco route with high producing lower level players from winning juco programs before the portal started. I don't think its a forever fix if you want top tier football, but it is a way to flip the team and then you can sprinkle those players in after.

Nebraska has tried to bring in flamed out 4 and 5 stars too much. Some work out like Trey, but most have intangible issues that will always hold them back.
wrt portal guys, there is a reason they are in there. You want the guys who are after an opportunity and are good enough to get a taste of NIL dough.
 
There is a ‘sweet spot’ with portal guys. IMO, it’s upper classmen from non Power conference schools that have proven to be good D1 players that have earned a ‘promotion’. Also guys from teams at the bottom of Power conferences that are looking to move to a “major market”, so to speak. Like moving from Purdue to Ohio State, as an example.
 
There is a ‘sweet spot’ with portal guys. IMO, it’s upper classmen from non Power conference schools that have proven to be good D1 players that have earned a ‘promotion’. Also guys from teams at the bottom of Power conferences that are looking to move to a “major market”, so to speak. Like moving from Purdue to Ohio State, as an example.
Yes, and this is a different strategy than taking guys who aren’t cutting it at elite schools. I can think of several transfers from Texas, Georgia, Alabama, etc who haven’t made much of a difference after transferring here
 
I think hitting the portal hard every year is gonna be the norm. I had thought retaining players and building a consistent team would be the best path and maybe still would be, but that’s gonna be impossible the way things are. So embrace it. Guys are gonna leave in droves, so just plug in someone new.
 
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I think hitting the portal hard every year is gonna be the norm. I had thought retaining players and building a consistent team would be the best path and maybe still would be, but that’s gonna be impossible the way things are. So embrace it. Guys are gonna leave in droves, so just plug in someone new.
With roster limits at 105, you're probably looking at bringing in 35-40 kids a year. 20-30 of those high school recruits, and 10-20 transfers I would imagine. And a lot of attrition in between.
 
I think the Indiana HC certainly has the right idea about who to get in the transfer portal - players who have actually produced. His philosophy is to prioritize production over potential.
I think the first school of thought was to get big names from big teams that did not get playing time.

I think that was wrong.

The key seems to be to get guys that have played 30-40 games, have lifted and practiced for 3-4 years and are 21-22 years old.
 
I like Dana but keep in mind that we scored a whopping 10 points against Iowa. He's not a miracle worker. I think he's right in saying we need to make a push for guys that can fill our needs asap. Which to me would be OL, RB, and WR in that order.
He had multiple WRs schemed open that either Dylan didn’t see, didn’t hit or the WR didn’t make the catch at Iowa. After what l saw from Satt, Dana produced at least a remarkably different looking offense. No way Satt does that to Wisconsin.
 
He had multiple WRs schemed open that either Dylan didn’t see, didn’t hit or the WR didn’t make the catch at Iowa. After what l saw from Satt, Dana produced at least a remarkably different looking offense. No way Satt does that to Wisconsin.
Plays were there. Players didn't execute. Hopefully having DH around full time now will help with execution
 
Kind of how Kansas State used to use the Juco route with high producing lower level players from winning juco programs before the portal started. I don't think its a forever fix if you want top tier football, but it is a way to flip the team and then you can sprinkle those players in after.

Nebraska has tried to bring in flamed out 4 and 5 stars too much. Some work out like Trey, but most have intangible issues that will always hold them back.
Trey was the 3rd wr for an NFL factory in LSU. Plus he was a legit return man. He would go into the proven player from a winning program IMO.
 
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I like Dana but keep in mind that we scored a whopping 10 points against Iowa. He's not a miracle worker. I think he's right in saying we need to make a push for guys that can fill our needs asap. Which to me would be OL, RB, and WR in that order.
Keep in mind that we left points on the field against Iowa too. Off the top of my head:

1. Raiola missed Lloyd for a wide open TD. Got a FG that drive so lost 4 points
2. Missed a chip shot FG, so lost 3 points there
3. Neyor dropped a wide open perfect pass. Lost at least 3 points there, very possibly 7.

Holgorson called the game well enough against Iowa to get 24 points. We didn’t get that because of players not making routine plays
 
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Keep in mind that we left points on the field against Iowa too. Off the top of my head:

1. Raiola missed Lloyd for a wide open TD. Got a FG that drive so lost 4 points
2. Missed a chip shot FG, so lost 3 points there
3. Neyor dropped a wide open perfect pass. Lost at least 3 points there, very possibly 7.

Holgorson called the game well enough against Iowa to get 24 points. We didn’t get that because of players not making routine plays
That's somewhat my point. Im not defending Satterfield but the same could be said throughout this season.

As a fan base we like to blame coaches for everything that ails us. But in reality they control very little of what is happening in the game.
 
He had multiple WRs schemed open that either Dylan didn’t see, didn’t hit or the WR didn’t make the catch at Iowa. After what l saw from Satt, Dana produced at least a remarkably different looking offense. No way Satt does that to Wisconsin.
Again I'm not saying I don't like DH. But we have had a WR's drop the ball all year long. We have had QB's miss open receivers all year long. We have had OL miss blocks for over a decade. There is a lot of blame that needs to be placed on these players too.
 
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While this is the norm, I feel like Rhule is now coaching out of a position of fear. After yet another underwhelming season of missed opportunities and a blowout loss, he knows he really has to deliver next year or else his seat becomes hot.

And that’s not good for the program. It just continues the cycle of the last 20 years.
 
Yes, and this is a different strategy than taking guys who aren’t cutting it at elite schools. I can think of several transfers from Texas, Georgia, Alabama, etc who haven’t made much of a difference after transferring here
Stealing our Vape pens!!!
 
That's somewhat my point. Im not defending Satterfield but the same could be said throughout this season.

As a fan base we like to blame coaches for everything that ails us. But in reality they control very little of what is happening in the game.
We can agree to disagree then. I saw noticeable, tangible improvement when Holgorson started.

1. Dylan looked sharper and more confident
2. Our receivers suddenly learned how to block again
3. Emmit Johnson emerged after disappearing during the season
4. Our run blocking by our o line looked better in our last 3 games

Holgorson was doing all of this with guys he hadn’t recruited, a simplified version of the existing (not his) playbook, and after being here for 4 weeks.

We should be optimistic about Holgorson and not downplaying him bc we only scored 10 points against Iowa
 
While this is the norm, I feel like Rhule is now coaching out of a position of fear. After yet another underwhelming season of missed opportunities and a blowout loss, he knows he really has to deliver next year or else his seat becomes hot.

And that’s not good for the program. It just continues the cycle of the last 20 years.
Yea, maybe we should stop and actually wait for the food to be cooked. There is good young talent already in the depth chart with more to come.
 
While this is the norm, I feel like Rhule is now coaching out of a position of fear. After yet another underwhelming season of missed opportunities and a blowout loss, he knows he really has to deliver next year or else his seat becomes hot.

And that’s not good for the program. It just continues the cycle of the last 20 years.
I disagree

He finally has a boss who knows what he’s doing

Rhule should be breathing a huge sigh of relief

I expect to see him much less involved in X’s and O’s going forward and free to do what he does best - talk and recruit
 
While this is the norm, I feel like Rhule is now coaching out of a position of fear. After yet another underwhelming season of missed opportunities and a blowout loss, he knows he really has to deliver next year or else his seat becomes hot.

And that’s not good for the program. It just continues the cycle of the last 20 years.
Or a position of initiative. Don’t let the laziness of the past regime jade the aggressiveness of the present and future.
 
I like Dana but keep in mind that we scored a whopping 10 points against Iowa. He's not a miracle worker. I think he's right in saying we need to make a push for guys that can fill our needs asap. Which to me would be OL, RB, and WR in that order.
Dana just really needs to work with Dylan. If you go re-watch the game, Dana had dudes open all over the place. We just didn't find them from the QB spot.
 
Or a position of initiative. Don’t let the laziness of the past regime jade the aggressiveness of the present and future.
Trev gave rhule enough rope to hang himself, which he of course did

Dannen cut him down

I expect a completely different Rhule going forward. Just needs to learn when to call timeout and challenge plays.

Or hire someone to tell him how to manage games.
 
I think the first school of thought was to get big names from big teams that did not get playing time.

I think that was wrong.

The key seems to be to get guys that have played 30-40 games, have lifted and practiced for 3-4 years and are 21-22 years old.
Sherman had a solid year this year. Jeudy has looked good in the times he has gotten in. They're solid contributors. The TE from Georgia probably would have been good if he ever got on the field. The miss rate isn't as high as it's made out to be.
 
Dana just really needs to work with Dylan. If you go re-watch the game, Dana had dudes open all over the place. We just didn't find them from the QB spot.
IF Dylan is truly coachable this is not that hard of a fix.

Dana: Now this ball is gonna have to be drilled in there.

We will have that safety set up, so you can put a little air on this ball, but less than you think.

On this play down the middle seam, we're gonna need you to really put some mustard on it.

Tell him what the play requires and then coach him to do it that way.
 
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