glad to see some moving on like butler and gbayorYour probably enjoying seeing theses players leaving
not happy to see Williams leave, if he does
it's hard to find edge rushers like that
glad to see some moving on like butler and gbayorYour probably enjoying seeing theses players leaving
I was disappointed in Williams in the 2nd half of the season. I would put McGahee up there for top pass rusher. Seems like he has a unique ability to not only get the sack but for knocking the ball out.Yes, the 3 were easily our best pass rushers and would have suited the WDE spot in a 4-3 perfectly. Shavers and McGahee are good, but I'd rather they be playing the linebacker spots in a 4-3. Not really convinced they are both going to stick around either.
he drew a lot of chips from TEs and backs in the 2nd halfI was disappointed in Williams in the 2nd half of the season. I would put McGahee up there for top pass rusher. Seems like he has a unique ability to not only get the sack but for knocking the ball out.
Sherman did win a lot of 1 on 1's, especially later in the year. He was defensive MVP against Iowa in my book, just completely dominant.he drew a lot of chips from TEs and backs in the 2nd half
clearly opponents were gameplanning for him on passing downs
freed up the big guys and allowed Sherman to go 1on1 (he didn't win much)
his last sack occurred on 10/26 vs ohiost.Sherman did win a lot of 1 on 1's, especially later in the year. He was defensive MVP against Iowa in my book, just completely dominant.
A 4-3 base defense can work if the linebackers are on the faster side. I was thinking Shavers-Gbayor-McGahee as backers and Princewill/Butler/Williams as edge rushers. Against pass happy teams, you can always go nickel, and it would offer a stout run defense if subbing in a run stopper along the DL.I'll add this and lean on actual football minds (like @PeliniTheCrutch) to correct me if I'm wrong, but:
for all the 4-3 traditionalists out there, that base scheme has all but been phased out of college football by offenses (even in the plodding B1G)
a change to a 4-man front will look basically exactly the same as we've been seeing from a personnel standpoint:
a strong-side 7 technique(EDGE), 3 technique, 2i or 0(NOSE) and 5 technique with 2 LBs and 5 DBs (or 4 DBs and Rover/light LB)
3-man fronts were pretty rare for us despite running a "3-3-5". just like having 3 traditional LBs on the field will be pretty rare for a "4-3" team.
base offense these days is 3 wide, which means base defense is nickel.
voluntarily putting an LB on a slot receiver is nearly as stupid as not covering him at all.A 4-3 base defense can work if the linebackers are on the faster side. I was thinking Shavers-Gbayor-McGahee as backers and Princewill/Butler/Williams as edge rushers. Against pass happy teams, you can always go nickel, and it would offer a stout run defense if subbing in a run stopper along the DL.
I would expect Shavers and McGahee be able to hold their own if they were matched against a slot receiver or tight end. Again, you'd be running plenty of nickel and dime against passing teams as well. If the 4-3 were really as vulnerable against basic passing offenses as you say, then there is no way it would have stuck around as long as it did.voluntarily putting an LB on a slot receiver is nearly as stupid as not covering him at all.
"pass happy" doesn't really have anything to do with it. it's a personnel thing, and 3 WR sets are the foundation of nearly every offense going.
we can run a 4-3 against Michigan and basically nobody else in the country as a base set.
it hasn't stuck around.I would expect Shavers and McGahee be able to hold their own if they were matched against a slot receiver or tight end. Again, you'd be running plenty of nickel and dime against passing teams as well. If the 4-3 were really as vulnerable against basic passing offenses as you say, then there is no way it would have stuck around as long as it did.
I think we're being pedantic at this point. Plenty of teams call their defense a base 4-3 even though they may use nickel more often. Just as teams will state a base 3-4 defense although it may end up being 3-3-5 more often. Nickel and dime is essential to cover the pass. I don't think anyone is arguing that.it hasn't stuck around.
base 4-3 has essentially been phased out of college football.
Why would you play a man short?you best have a 0 & 9 to run a 3-3-4
Yep at best you have a4-2-5it hasn't stuck around.
base 4-3 has essentially been phased out of college football.
Williams did one thing and one thing only. He was terrible against the run and if they ran he regularly lost contain. My biggest beef though were the ill timed off sides penalties which seemed to happen virtually every game. I think he can mature and get better. I hope he sticks around.Williams was by far our best edge rusher
5 sacks this year trailed only Robinson (6), who owed a couple of his to Williams drawing lots of 3rd and long eyeballs
well, yea. he's a 3rd down pass rushing specialist.Williams did one thing and one thing only. He was terrible against the run and if they ran he regularly lost contain. My biggest beef though were the ill timed off sides penalties which seemed to happen virtually every game. I think he can mature and get better. I hope he sticks around.
I know we are all having problems grasping college football as a pro sport. As a pro sport they could hire Pot, Roast, Kettle, and Black to coach the DL. And if they needed even more help, they could hire All the King’s Horses and All the King’s Men.FSU had got a really good DL coach and Ass . But he has been there like 30 years. Maybe he is deciding on retirement. Otherwise FSU wouldn’t have room for Pot roast.
Mutton chop, pot roast , terrance knightonMr. Roast
I hope you aren’t seriously offended because it would indicate a certain level of denseness and/or failure to read the thread.💩Take that kind of talk to the Iowa board.
I hope you aren’t seriously offended because it would indicate a certain level of denseness.
well he wasn't wrong. He was at practice after Sip said that.Sipp proves yet again he doesn't know shit.😂
Yep. There is something wrong with that dude as well. He's just off.Sipp proves yet again he doesn't know shit.😂