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Utter recovering too. I know, we're sleeping well now
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/utter-working-to-get-healthy-for-bowl/
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/utter-working-to-get-healthy-for-bowl/
I hope not bad enough that he can't work out for scouts come combine time. I'm guessing rumors indicate it's bad, thus bowl game is out of the question?
He seems very fragile, which is a bummer because of his talent and hard play. Some guys are just more prone to this crap. Glorious hands deserves an NFL shot but his body needs to cooperate
guys that play 48 games in 4 years dont strike me as fragile
Out for the bowl and post-season bowls. Ugh. It would only make sense if Newby got knocked out next.
Yeah, I'm not going with fragile here. At this level you play through the inevitable pain. The hit that Westy took on his lower back/kidneys would take just about anyone out. That and the fact that he's often getting his touches over the middle. Even the NFL's best get injured. It's all about timing and where it falls in the season.
Jordan Westerkamp is a warrior, I wish our program had more of and like him.
It's probably because Tommy is out. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but they're roommates.
I bet Westy doesn't want to play if Tommy can't. Because they are roommates (in case you didn't know).
I bet Westy doesn't want to play if Tommy can't. Because they are roommates (in case you didn't know).
It will suck if he can't play in an all star game. There's a possibility that he could have a QB that actually knows how to pass throwing him the ball. He could kill it in a game like that.
He is clearly underweight. The problem that a lot of receivers have is that they have to stay super thin to keep their speed. Kenny Bell was 180 pounds soaking wet his junior and senior season, sure he could take the top off the defense but one solid lick by a linebacker over the middle and he's out half a season. Westy is very much in the same boat. Westy is 6'0" 200 lbs program numbers. realistically he's probably around 5'10" 185-190 He needs to be 210-215 and be able to run sub 4.5, Unfortunately he's probably just not built to do that. Hope he recovers and can play, we are really going to need him.
Cole Beasley is 5'8", 174 lbs.
Wes Welker was 5'9", 185
Julian Edelman is 5'10", 198
Emmanual Sanders is 5'10", 180
Tavon Austin is 5'9", 174
Wes Welker was 5'9", 185
Julian Edelman is 5'10", 198
Emmanual Sanders is 5'10", 180
Tavon Austin is 5'9", 174
Am i wrong in saying he gets hurt a lot? Im not dissing him, some players are just more prone to injury and hes one of them. Its unfortunate.
How many receivers in the NFL really run a sub 4.5? I'm betting the percentage is very small. Very. I'm to lazy to look it up, but I am curious. Edit, I just looked at the 40 yard dash times for the 2015 and tons of WR's ran around the 4.45-4.55(ish) mark. I did not know!
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I would say yes, you are wrong, if what was posted earlier is correct. Played in 48 games in 4 years... missed 2 or 3 this year due to microfractures in his back. This is the only time he missed extended playing time in his career.
There were times he went off the field limping but always came back. Maybe that's what you are referencing... but I would not call him fragile in the least. He's been quite durable.
Get what you are saying but those are different kind of receivers from Westy imo.
Fragile ? Kid played nearly 50 games here. If he's fragile what's MRI?
According to a guy at practice on RSS
he was definitely hurt and didn't look good.
Dude broke his back and came back and played in a few weeks. We probably better question his toughness!
I would think Jordan if successful would be very similar to Beasley. Maybe he isn't the same kind of athlete? Time will tell, I guess.
Antonio Brown, you may have herd of him, came into the combine undersized, runs a sub 4.5, and without question is the best WR in the game. Then there are guys like Hopkins, Landry, Marshall, D Thomas, and etc that are star names that didn't run sub 4.5. Michael Thomas is probably the best rookie WR in the NFL and he too did not run a sub 4.5. Larry Fitz sure does not run a 4.5 anymore but his production is just as good, if not better, then when he was running that. There's actually a ton of NFL WR that don't run 4.5. I agree there are a lot that do. But great hands and great route running is probably more important in the NFL than speed. Granted you cant be slow but just because one doesn't run a sub 4.5, doesn't make one slow. Linked below attached is a pretty good read about how 40 times for WRs are a bit misguided in the NFL and that there are much better tests to look at.
You'd may be surprised but a great route runner will look a lot faster then he is due to his ability to utilize the field.
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/4/9...er-are-40-times-and-other-combine-measurables
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He may have been only 180 lbs soaking wet but I will never forget the LEGAL hit Kenny Bell put on that Wisconsin Badger in the B1G Championship game. Really the only positive Nebraska highlight in that game and the fact he was flagged was ridiculous. In the same game a Wisconsin linebacker body slammed Taylor Martinez after the play was dead and didn't get a flag for that. What gives?? Bottom line, Football is a brutal sport and you must protect yourself at all times.
You're right...they are different because they actually had QB's that could get the ball to them in stride or in open space. Our QB's best ball is the "500" pass....no worries tho, that is about to change next season.
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Westercamp would be a slot, possession receiver in the NFL. Same as the dudes listed above. He will get matched up with nickels, safeties an LBs more than lock down CBs.
Sorry for noting the obvious, that he gets hurt a lot.
Why are you people taking such offense to this? I'm not saying it's his fault or that I don't believe he actually gets hurt. I clearly stated that some people are more prone to injuries than others, it's their bodies.
MRI is injury prone as well then? Or can I not say that either?
We're saying that you are wrong. He's not injury prone. Has he has some injuries? Yes. That doesn't make him injury prone.
I guess we will agree to disagree. He gets hurt a lot in games, much more so than your average player.
The people taking offense in this thread must think I'm trying to say he's a wimp. That's not what I'm saying, and my original post was clear in that. These are things that you really have zero control over.
It's just funny, that's all, to claim a 48 game participant is fragile. Maybe you chose the wrong word and shouldn't have said fragile. He has gotten injured in games and returned in the very same games. Fragile is reserved for the likes of Charles Jackson, who never panned out because of injury after injury... Fragile might be Jamal Turner, who always seemed to injure himself as soon as he began to see playing time. Westy is not fragile, and that is what people are taking exception to.
Understood, and disagree. But it doesn't matter what I think, maybe he'll go play 10 years in the NFL without issues.
Here's to hoping this is all made up and he can go to the combine. If he can I'd guess 4th-5th round.
No, your original post said he was fragile, not injury prone. Big difference.
It was obvious what I meant. Quit trying to derive ill intent when there was none. Calm down.
Wow man overreact much? If you are this sensitive about the give and take of opinions this may not be for you. As I stated, JW has only gotten hurt a lot the last 6 games. Your statement that he gets hurt a lot makes it sound like he`s hurt all the time which is not accurate. His first 3 years he rarely left the field.
I know it was obvious. It was obvious you used the wrong word. Admit it. Injury prone is not fragility.
If you would have started out that he was injury prone, I would have responded differently. He does seem to get dinged a lot in games, but always returned. Fragile players don't return. IMHO.
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