I think research shows that about 5-10% of the general public are capable of multitasking successfully, without a drop in reaction times, while driving...
Severe getting angry about people who drive drunk ...
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Manuals take two hands to drive. I believe that would be what the OP was meaning.
I had no idea that people used "the sauce (bad analogy given current topic)" while driving that much...
Accidents happened long before phones. Taking away driver's ed from required high school curriculum likely didn't help drivers improve on their motor skills. Seen many examples of hazardous driving (truckers on interstate, older folks, younger folks, etc) and technology.... I can't believe that insurance companies don't have an agreement to check for this factor in every accident.
Shirley you'd rather see people not hurt vs. making $$$ (did I just lose my US Citizenship for saying that??)...
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Accidents happened long before phones. Taking away driver's ed from required high school curriculum likely didn't help drivers improve on their motor skills. Seen many examples of hazardous driving (truckers on interstate, older folks, younger folks, etc) and technology.... I can't believe that insurance companies don't have an agreement to check for this factor in every accident.
Shirley you'd rather see people not hurt vs. making $$$ (did I just lose my US Citizenship for saying that??)...
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What astounds me is that only 1 person died. With that scenario, most would expect all 5 dead.
I have a manual and use my phone all the time (not illegal here currently...just texting is-which you can't tell the difference anyways since you have push a button to use the phone). It's likely more challenging to the average driver but it's doable.
Funny to read some people proclaim the state gov isn't doing enough by still allowing people to do this and others say no government inference. Did you all fight seat belts, food standards, and other general safety initiatives as much? Good lord, using bluetooth instead of hands isn't exactly stripping you of an unalienable right...
Funny to read some people proclaim the state gov isn't doing enough by still allowing people to do this and others say no government inference. Did you all fight seat belts, food standards, and other general safety initiatives as much? Good lord, using bluetooth instead of hands isn't exactly stripping you of an unalienable right...
I did this not too long ago on I-80 from S. Omaha to Millard. When I got home I realized I was a distracted driver looking for distracted drivers.
Scary how many were out there.
Yep. How often does your computer lock up or do something stupid. Would be horrible if it was your car.
Ohhhhhhh no I don't. Why do you think I don't trust them with guns?
Heck, if you killed someone, maybe you'd stop.
I couldn't decide between 2nd offense and 3rd offense, so I figured I'd better make it 3rd since I'm supposed to be the bleeding heart of the board.
Crazy that in MN they have special license plates for aggravated DUI offenders...referred to by locals as "Whiskey plates" I believe. That's kind of 'Scarlet Letter'ish to me...
Oh you're as left as left gets on this board if you post any sort of independent opinion or questioning thought....but then again I reinforce internally that this is where people are to be stupid, not smart (and some are really proud of showing off that attribute on an extremely consistent basis...).
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Good point. I probably trust too many in that situation. But I have told people they shouldn't have one. I have no problem with the populace being armed, only because 99 percent of those firearms are not visible until they are truly needed, or practiced with.
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That's a great idea. There should be a tote on plates so people can see how much of a frickin loser you have been. As for the texting issue? I think if they actually enforced it at all it may help. I am all for a 500 dollar fine to start, doubling every time. So 500 becomes 1000, 1000 becomes 2000, 2000 to 4000 etc etc etc. And if they can't pay it in cash within 30 days? They sit in jail a month for every 10 bucks they are short.
Yeah, but Johnny Fever can be completely toasted and still have cat-like quickness...
So we're punishing poor diseased idiots more than we're punishing non-poor diseased idiots?
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He means the fine as a flat fine for all for this offense is economically regressive: the poor have less ability to pay than the rich.
Like taxes, there's no solution that will satisfy everyone as "fair". If you say flat quantity, the poor will complain it is a larger percentage of their wealth/income. If you say flat percentage, the rich will complain it is a larger quantity.
It was more in reference to his comment about "for every day they can't pay in cash..."
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I stand by what I said. The crap will have to at least slow down if they get hit in the wallet. You may cry foul, but I imagine you would say different if a loved one of yours was the victim. I could give 2 shits about the trashes inability to pay.
All cars can be equipped to not operate if someone is over the legal limit (maybe drunk maybe not drunk).
Enforcing it might happen. IIRC, there was a discussion the past month in the transportation committee to make it a primary offense. Not sure if or how it will shake out.
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First the cops would have to get off their phones. LPD may be the worst offenders of all.
Yeah, for those rare occasions when a fly got into the teleport booth with you.
Agree. Considering the number of people who text and drive the dangers are huge. In the State of New York texting while driving is illegal -- three offenses and they pull your license. The problem with texting while driving is not so much a visual issue but the driver's mind becomes lost in formulating language while typing. Boom ! Booze is bad too !
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Few things from the perspective of a criminal defense attorney:
1) It's really easy to argue that people with multiple offenses should not be allowed to drive for a long, long time. I honestly get the sentiment. The problem, though, is that so many places are not equipped to provide for alternate forms of transportation. Like it or not, these people still have family obligations and responsibilities. I think even the most conservative person on this board would agree that we want these people working and tending to children, mortgages, etc... If we simply prohibit them from driving, we necessarily make it nearly impossible for them to do these things as well thus ultimately creating a whole new set of problems. Should these folks have considered this before they decided to get behind the wheel drunk....absolutely. That, however, doesn't change the reality and the fact that we should want to encourage people to live productive lives after making these mistakes. If we had better public transportation in Nebraska, I would probably be saying something totally different.
2) We have the technology now to require all new vehicles to come equipped with interlock technology that won't let them operate if the driver is impaired. There's no reason this shouldn't be standard in all new vehicles.
3) Automatic-driving vehicles are game-changers, obviously.
1) It's really easy to argue that people with multiple offenses should not be allowed to drive for a long, long time. I honestly get the sentiment. The problem, though, is that so many places are not equipped to provide for alternate forms of transportation. Like it or not, these people still have family obligations and responsibilities. I think even the most conservative person on this board would agree that we want these people working and tending to children, mortgages, etc... If we simply prohibit them from driving, we necessarily make it nearly impossible for them to do these things as well thus ultimately creating a whole new set of problems. Should these folks have considered this before they decided to get behind the wheel drunk....absolutely. That, however, doesn't change the reality and the fact that we should want to encourage people to live productive lives after making these mistakes. If we had better public transportation in Nebraska, I would probably be saying something totally different.
2) We have the technology now to require all new vehicles to come equipped with interlock technology that won't let them operate if the driver is impaired. There's no reason this shouldn't be standard in all new vehicles.
3) Automatic-driving vehicles are game-changers, obviously.
1)Walk, Bike, Bus. I dont care if its HARDER for the damn drunk.
2)It would cost A LOT. All of us shouldnt have to pick the tab on new vehicles having it again because of some damn drunks.
3)Yeah all the drunks will be all over the super expensive decade away from common place cars.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Yes. Obviously. Nobody disagrees with you. That, however, doesn't change the fact that it benefits our society for these people to nevertheless be productive after they have served their time for the offense. I want these people working and paying taxes yet we have absolutely zero public transportation here in central Nebraska and it's only marginally better in Lincoln and Omaha. I don't claim to have all the answers but the idea that we should just never let these people drive again is shortsighted and naive. Fortunately, our legislature has actually been pretty decent on this and has expanded the ability to drive with an interlock pretty liberally.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Uber is helping to solve/add to the problem as well. Now you can drink as much as you want and hail uber quickly for a small fee.
I for one quit drinking for good 3 months ago. I didn't drink to abuse, but I doubled my weekly intake over the last 10 years. Do the math into your late 60's and 70's and it is now a problem.
I feel great and in the best shape I've been in a long time!
I for one quit drinking for good 3 months ago. I didn't drink to abuse, but I doubled my weekly intake over the last 10 years. Do the math into your late 60's and 70's and it is now a problem.
I feel great and in the best shape I've been in a long time!
Application link you can install to disable your phone while in motion ...I did this not too long ago on I-80 from S. Omaha to Millard. When I got home I realized I was a distracted driver looking for distracted drivers.
Scary how many were out there.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/mobile-living/home-and-family/apps-to-block-texting-while-driving/
Great and I appreciate your concern but I wasn't using my phone, I was watching for other people using their phones.
