Sam Mckewon and Diaco

[inWV]

I was a college prof. And most college profs I worked with were pompous, self important turds. One of the reasons I retired early from that sham world of ostentatious peacocks.
And I think a lot of football coaches are the same: all about money and ego.
But I think none of it has to do with whether or not they have fiery personalities or not. And as I said above, who cares?
Win. Win. Win. That is what fans want from their coaches. Everything else is just pissing into the wind

That hasn't been my experience Pennsy at my undergrad/grad schools and my current place of employment. But I have sampled it at places where I've visited and have heard stories from people in my group who work at other schools. Faculty hire faculty. The people in my dept are pretty grounded. But I could easily see a dept where peacocks hire same.

 

[dockentwo]

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit. Football is entertainment, and nothing more, and football coaches are not geniuses, but they are often very dedicated to learning their craft. A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny. I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, more than a few have broken the law while hired at NU, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them. If a journalist points out character flaws two months into a tenure, it is wise to pay attention.

Have to concede and back many points here; but journalists can be subject to this same view; and I might argue they have an even higher purpose. They may not understand or agree with motivational techniques, that may even be net better for the players ( a lot of positive player comments ); but throw a coach in a bad light based on their own filters ( e g PETA member ). Can be damaging, things can change on the use of a word ( I didn't say he beat his wife: I; didn't say he beat his wife : I didn't say, he, BEAT, his wife ). People love to be entertained; a lot of players are great role models for many. So many factors. I enjoy CFB; but have virtually gone from an NBA fan, to not caring a bit - based on a theme similar to the one you voice.

 

[GretnaShawn]

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit. Football is entertainment, and nothing more, and football coaches are not geniuses, but they are often very dedicated to learning their craft. A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny. I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, more than a few have broken the law while hired at NU, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them. If a journalist points out character flaws two months into a tenure, it is wise to pay attention.

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit.

Couldn't most people pick up science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc if they dedicated their lives to it?

Football is entertainment, and nothing more

Ask Jack Hoffman if football is just entertainment. Ask the literally thousands of NCAA athletes that get a free (or partially free, depending on the level) education if football is nothing but entertainment. There is a lot more to football than entertainment. There is a lot of good that comes from it. It keeps some people off the streets, it gives some people structure and character, it gives education and networking and social skills.

A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny.

Why does it matter how much they make? There is a lot of money that comes with a successful program, if they are apart of the successful program, why shouldn't they be compensated accordingly? And the impact of sports/football in general has an enormous impact on society. Look at crime rates when local sports programs are introduced. Look at grades of students before and after they enter a sport. If you are speaking about the direct impact of a specific coach, again, ask Jack Hoffman what a coach can do.

I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them.

People have flaws? Some people are terrible? That isn't just in the coaching world. So into most industries and you'll find some truly despicable people. They unfortunately outshine all of the truly remarkable people that are there too.

 

[grayhairedfreak]

Diaco is definitely an amped up kind of guy. Elliot appears to run cool. Fire and Ice. Will Parrella, Williams and Bray be like luke warm water, ala Derek Smalls?

First one in on the Spinal Tap reference. Well done, sir.

 

[inWV]

I really like the Elliot hire. I suspect that he and Diaco think about defense in a way that is different from most coaches.

 

[ridge22]

Here is the thing about being a football coach and a sports writer, neither are rocket surgery, and probably 90% of people could do either it that is what career they could chose to do.

With that said I agree with a lot of what has been said in the thread about Sam. Don't know what it is, but just listening to him for me is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I don't know who pisses in his coffee every morning, but man the guy is just bitter about life. I know a couple journalists, and it seems like of the ones I know they are very pessimistic about everything. Maybe writing about stuff is their therapy or something.

 

[timnsun]

He is describing Coach Pelini against KSU and substitute Coach Bill S for the Urban reference !!

Yep, but I think what yort is saying is show me where Diaco acted like this... He may not be the nicest guy out there, but he hasn't chased an opposing coach down and yelled at him for leaving his starters in. The Diaco/Pelini comparison may not be warranted just yet, unless there is evidence out there that shows Diaco to be a Pelini type jerk.

 

[bleedhuskerred]

Here is the thing about being a football coach and a sports writer, neither are rocket surgery, and probably 90% of people could do either it that is what career they could chose to do.

With that said I agree with a lot of what has been said in the thread about Sam. Don't know what it is, but just listening to him for me is like fingernails on a chalkboard. I don't know who pisses in his coffee every morning, but man the guy is just bitter about life. I know a couple journalists, and it seems like of the ones I know they are very pessimistic about everything. Maybe writing about stuff is their therapy or something.

Combines brain surgery and rocket science and creates "rocket surgery" everyone else's argument is now invalid! Well done sir.

 

[Husker Todd]

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit. Football is entertainment, and nothing more, and football coaches are not geniuses, but they are often very dedicated to learning their craft. A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny. I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, more than a few have broken the law while hired at NU, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them. If a journalist points out character flaws two months into a tenure, it is wise to pay attention.

I read this and find myself asking why are you on a Husker message board and why do you even watch college football? Because you don't seem to derive any pleasure from it at all. Now I put your last statement in bold because it pertains to what I am about to say. You have almost 14 times as many post as I do, yet you have 15 times less likes than I do. So I am going to point out that you seem to be an A-HOLE with a gold star slapped on top and our fellow scrollers would not only be wise to pay attention to what I say, but they can also take it to the bank.

 

[huskerfan1414]

I just cant stand sams writing style so i never actually read his articles to find out ehat an idiot he is. He uses way too many sentence fragments and tries to write like a hipster. I have no idea how he gets pid money that write.
Ill never personally subscribe to the OWH because I dont read their Husker sports anymore. I used to read all of it.
Say what you want about Lee B., but i will always read his stuff when I see it because at least he knows how to write.

 

[NikkiSixx]

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit. Football is entertainment, and nothing more, and football coaches are not geniuses, but they are often very dedicated to learning their craft. A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny. I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, more than a few have broken the law while hired at NU, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them. If a journalist points out character flaws two months into a tenure, it is wise to pay attention.

I actually think some of this is on the mark. I'm not sure I agree with the parts at the end about sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, etc. I'll tell you that happens in EVERY profession. I do understand they are around coeds, but there are a great many professors that also partake in these things on campus, if not more so. Calling out sports in this context is not warranted nor fair.

I do however agree with you about sports having a lessor impact to society and I never understood why they were paid such ridiculous amounts of money. Movie Stars, Rock Stars, similarly provide a lessor social impact. One can however draw parallels to how these activities enrich our lives, and as a people, we do need down time from our jobs, an escape if you will, and music, movies, & sports all benefit people in this way.

In this new Internet era, current salaries are not sustainable for athletes, just as there have been major cuts to the abilities for the musician or even actor to make money like before. I applaud ESPN's eventual collapse, as they deserve it after milking the $12 per subscriber cable tv tax on many unknowing customers for all these years.

The intellectual difficulty level of most sports is very simple. It indeed is not rocket science. However, the mental and if you will performance aspects of the game, are actually quite difficult. It requires innate physical talent, as well as just as much hard work as anything else to achieve the best results. So implying that it is intellectually easy makes doing it easy, isn't true. If your gifts are intellectual, and an athlete's gifts are physical, that is a wash. Both people have to still work very hard to achieve the best results in their field.

As to journalists in general, it's an ugly situation out there, and I personally think this 'freedom of speech' thing has been taken way too far. Journalists are allowed to write fake news, fake headlines, make up stuff, say whatever they want, in many cases, with impunity.

 

[NikkiSixx]

LOL. Diaco may be eccentric, but would definitely like to see links showing this type of behavior.

Yep, but I think what yort is saying is show me where Diaco acted like this... He may not be the nicest guy out there, but he hasn't chased an opposing coach down and yelled at him for leaving his starters in. The Diaco/Pelini comparison may not be warranted just yet, unless there is evidence out there that shows Diaco to be a Pelini type jerk.

To me, I'm personally able to draw some comparisons about his character with this video. (there are more out there) The remark comparing him to another coaches blowup with KSU's coach, was a forward looking statement saying that I hope we don't see that. I didn't say it did happen.

 

[TheBeav815]

Nothing this board does better than hate all the sports writers at the OWH and LJS. Makes me wonder why you keep reading them if they're so awful.

It's also funny to me that "never played football" guy rips writers but has never had so much as a spot on the high school newspaper.

'member how Dirk was the devil for picking on poor, innocent Bo all the time? I 'member...

 

[OO Snipes]

It does seem that Diaco is a different breed of cat.

There's a really good chance he knew exactly what he was doing, but was a cheap dick. That would fit the profile of a lot of different people, including business profs.

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

 

[Husker.Wed.]

Reminds me of a professor at UNO a few years ago who taught business. Not kidding, business. This is who he was in the real world....He'd buy something from a bike shop, use it for a year, and return it for a full refund. Shoes, helmet, shorts, you know, stuff you could never put back out on the floor and resell, but rather stuff you'd just have to "eat". What kind of college professor who teaches business no less, would do that to a real business? Somebody who's a completely clueless idiot. He is the perfect example of "Those who can't, teach". Now I understand there are tons of great teachers, I know that, and I don't mean to offend all teachers.

After five years from graduating I made more money than all of my engineering professors. I always assumed the satisfaction of teaching, having summers off, no stress, no business travel, and never having to worry about relocation trumped the almighty dollar. I understand that, but it is not in my DNA. Looking back my professors were laid back guys who liked their comfort.

 

[Husker.Wed.]

The misconception is that football is complicated. It is not more complicated than science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc and a majority of fans could easily pick up the game if they dedicated their lives to such a pointless pursuit.

Couldn't most people pick up science/engineering, mathematics, writing, health and medicine, construction management,etc if they dedicated their lives to it?

Football is entertainment, and nothing more

Ask Jack Hoffman if football is just entertainment. Ask the literally thousands of NCAA athletes that get a free (or partially free, depending on the level) education if football is nothing but entertainment. There is a lot more to football than entertainment. There is a lot of good that comes from it. It keeps some people off the streets, it gives some people structure and character, it gives education and networking and social skills.

A craft that sickeningly makes millions, even when its impact on society is very tiny.

Why does it matter how much they make? There is a lot of money that comes with a successful program, if they are apart of the successful program, why shouldn't they be compensated accordingly? And the impact of sports/football in general has an enormous impact on society. Look at crime rates when local sports programs are introduced. Look at grades of students before and after they enter a sport. If you are speaking about the direct impact of a specific coach, again, ask Jack Hoffman what a coach can do.

I have spent my entire life around coaches, and coaches are in general disgusting. Big money sport is corrupting in itself, as the only goal is winning, but many coaches invest in such a thing for money and pure competition, except they have to manipulate the young to reach their goals. There is no greater good, or final success, but win or lose, and in the college game all coaches get rich. If recent NU history is any indication, then most disparaging remarks about our coaches have been close to the mark, and we are talking about dozens of coaches with major personality flaws, and nearly all have been given a slap on the wrist and opportunities that no average joe would ever get after sleeping with young girls, coworkers wives, drinking, drugging, and abusing themselves and those around them.

People have flaws? Some people are terrible? That isn't just in the coaching world. So into most industries and you'll find some truly despicable people. They unfortunately outshine all of the truly remarkable people that are there too.

Outstanding post.

 

[cubsker]

i like what Bob Knight said about sports writers. We all learned to write by about third grade. Most of us moved on to other things.

 

[inWV]

After five years from graduating I made more money than all of my engineering professors. I always assumed the satisfaction of teaching, having summers off, no stress, no business travel, and never having to worry about relocation trumped the almighty dollar. I understand that, but it is not in my DNA. Looking back my professors were laid back guys who liked their comfort.

People who have to travel for work get compensated for it, as well they should. I would hate to travel as much as some people I know. I enjoy the time working with students and the freedom to learn about a lot of different things. The are people in the college prof game that aren't particularly happy about their choice after a few years. They should step aside and let a younger person take a shot.

 

[bloodredd]

Diaco has an interesting style but I have trouble listening to the guy....
I don't think Sam is as much of an idiot as most of y'all do....

 

[timnsun]

To me, I'm personally able to draw some comparisons about his character with this video. (there are more out there) The remark comparing him to another coaches blowup with KSU's coach, was a forward looking statement saying that I hope we don't see that. I didn't say it did happen.

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Watching that particular video, I would base your argument on potential... you can see the pent up energy that needs to be released, but I felt like he was respectful towards the reporters throughout the clip. Is it possible that he have a pelini-like meltdown? Absolutely, he is very intense. But in that clip he was clearly frustrated and yet still (barely) held it together and kept it respectful.

It will be interesting to see how he responds to the media here and if he maintains a certain respect while maintaining the fire as well.

 

[steelclaw]

Diaco has an interesting style but I have trouble listening to the guy....
I don't think Sam is as much of an idiot as most of y'all do....

Who gives a rats ass what the defensive coordinator sounds like? He's not the team spokesman. He was brought here to do what he did at ND. Build a great defense.

 

[bloodredd]

Who gives a rats ass what the defensive coordinator sounds like?

The guys who play for him? I know it was hard to connect those dots.....

 

[Mack In Motion]

The guys who play for him? I know it was hard to connect those dots.....

The players didn't seem to mind whatsoever when Pelini got caught saying "F*** You" to all Nebraska fans.

Some other folks seemed to take notice though.

 

[yort2000]

To me, I'm personally able to draw some comparisons about his character with this video. (there are more out there) The remark comparing him to another coaches blowup with KSU's coach, was a forward looking statement saying that I hope we don't see that. I didn't say it did happen.

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Quite the epic leap from the above to the below.

They hired an ass hat to coach the defense that can't even control himself...

At least his f word is fun.