I don't agree with his beliefs in all areas but the job is a perfect fit for him. You can't argue he isn't passionate about helping young men reach their potential.
Hire makes perfect sense to me.
Hire makes perfect sense to me.
Ron Brown is back at Dir of Player Development
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He will have a great impact in the off the field role that he is coming to campus for. He is going to help these young men prepare for life and to be the best people they can be. Can think of few people better from watching him and listening to him over the years. He showed over his time in LINCOLN on the field he could work successfully with young men of many different backgrounds and world views,including different faiths and even no faith.
Glad he will be helping these young men off the field, great addition to the excellent staff on the field Nebraska has.
Glad he will be helping these young men off the field, great addition to the excellent staff on the field Nebraska has.
If the mods give you a permanent vacation for some reason, then six months later someone starts posting as "bunhuggervoyeur", we will have you pegged as a returning retread.
smilin mike responsible for nearly half of those 41 losses. (19, to be exact).
That said, it's great to have him back.
This will be a non-story in about 3 days. By the time practice starts people will have forgotten he even works at NU.
I appreciate your post. Don't have any negative comments about it, Just want to add - let's not forget that the media has plenty of blame in Brown's "controversial remarks about homosexuality". They know where a man like Coach Brown stands on an issue like that already, but still ask questions like "How do you feel about the gay lifestyle?" He probably would prefer to keep his opinions/beliefs private, but now feels shoved into a corner, and he's no coward to stand on the principles he believes in, so he answers it instead of saying, "Next question." And the media is predominantly liberal, and they like to paint conservatives as legalistic/judgmental.
Personally, I don’t care about stuff like that but there are some that do. When you put your self out there like that, there will always be other vocal people who disagree with you and they are just as passionate with their oppositional view.
What always makes me laugh is when extremists are shocked and appalled that everyone doesn’t agree with them 100%
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Actually, sports media is overwhelmingly conservative, if it has any bias at all. And most media that isn't trying to cater to an ideological perspective simply tries to report and interpret, minimally, the news, by providing context.
It's also true that the media likes to make money, so getting hot takes is something that they all do now, more than they should.
Bottom line is, Ron Brown has always been a great coach, a good leader, and interested in player development both on and off the field. Nobody has to agree with his beliefs to see that and have the program benefit from it.
I would bet there are plenty of professors at UNL who have much more radical beliefs than Ron Brown, though on the far left side of the political spectrum. And that is fine, as long as they do not discriminate against students who do not share their ideology. College is supposed to be about exposing yourself to different viewpoints.
As far as I'm aware, Ron Brown has never forced any players to conform to his beliefs, nor has he discriminated any of them. I think most would prefer that coaches stay out of politics publicly, and I think Brown learned his lesson after Harvey admonished him.
As far as I'm aware, Ron Brown has never forced any players to conform to his beliefs, nor has he discriminated any of them. I think most would prefer that coaches stay out of politics publicly, and I think Brown learned his lesson after Harvey admonished him.
Ron Brown is a class act and will be a huge addition to get this program back into shape.
Looks like Alabama’s makes the same - 181k.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...e-with-3-million-football-support-staffs/amp/
Listed as director of player personnel in the article above. But from article below, which is an Alabama school release, his title is director of player development. Not really sure the difference between the two...
https://rolltide.com/news/2013/2/14..._Staff_as_Director_of_Player_Development.aspx
Keep in mind that Billy Devaney made $300k, and his replacement (Sean Dillon) is making $150k - so we're saving quite a bit of money at that position.
And Ron Brown has about 35 more years of experience than James Rodgers did.
And Ron Brown has about 35 more years of experience than James Rodgers did.
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When did the discussion on homosexuality in our culture really take place to really investigate its merits to be warranted a class at all? I feel the same about veterans as a class, although vets have, in my opinion a greater claim to warrant special treatment.
Homosexuality is just that, a sexuality, its totally dependent on behavior. It is not like being born black or white, both of which are objective and involuntary. How you feel is not what you are! Feelings change, being black or white does not.
Either in the evolutionary paradigm or the creative paradigm homosexuality is a dead ended outcome in life, the development of life, and the teaching of how life actually works to the next generation.
Elective behaviors are not what separates the classes of men save for the financial classes. Beliefs separates classes of humans as well, but not at the physical level.
The civic discussion on homosexuality as an actual culture has not really been given it's proper length of time to think about without all the personal opinions involved or feelings one has. Look at it with a 500 mile view and through the lens of both the evolutionary and the creative in it's real application to the development of the human animal and you can't help but notice its futility as a true kind or prime culture of man.
Homosexuality is just that, a sexuality, its totally dependent on behavior. It is not like being born black or white, both of which are objective and involuntary. How you feel is not what you are! Feelings change, being black or white does not.
Either in the evolutionary paradigm or the creative paradigm homosexuality is a dead ended outcome in life, the development of life, and the teaching of how life actually works to the next generation.
Elective behaviors are not what separates the classes of men save for the financial classes. Beliefs separates classes of humans as well, but not at the physical level.
The civic discussion on homosexuality as an actual culture has not really been given it's proper length of time to think about without all the personal opinions involved or feelings one has. Look at it with a 500 mile view and through the lens of both the evolutionary and the creative in it's real application to the development of the human animal and you can't help but notice its futility as a true kind or prime culture of man.
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This AD’s office isn’t withholding the bank... just look at Frost’s salary compared to any other coach in Nebraska history.
I’m not surprised at the salary hike.
Thank you. This is the best political post I have read on social media in a long time. I agree 100%.
Yeah, my whole life of trying to "get some", I should have been looking at it "through the lens of both the evolutionary and the creative in it's real application to the development of the human animal."
It's just sex.
It's just sex.
This was a little muddled, but to correct a couple of things you're asserting:
1.) Fighting for equality does not equal special treatment as a class. Despite right wing bigoted attempts to paint it as such, most arguments and cultural debates around LGBTQ rights have to do with bringing these once-outcast people back into the fold of mainstream culture and making sure that they are treated with dignity and as equals, as is the humane and productive thing to do.
2.) Homosexuality occurs in nature among the animals, as it does in humans. From an evolutionary perspective, it does not yield offspring, but it does yield bonded pairs and encourage cooperation and teamwork, which is a huge advantage. Also, it can be seen as a natural form of population control; as a population booms, so does a small percentage of that population exhibit those behaviors.
3.) You seem to be saying it's 100% a choice. It is not 100% a choice.
Are you trying to "intellectualize" being a bigot?
Ron Brown brings back a football culture, he's got experience, he's a good person, but the guy is off his rocker in certain ways, and I am here to tell you, that don't fly with me.
But we agree to disagree. GBR
Are you trying to trivialize a persons faith? Ron Brown believes what he believes because that’s what the Bible says. But just because he doesn’t believe in the lifestyle doesn’t mean he hates everyone who practices it. Bigots are filled with hatred… Ron Brown is not.
And the way you choose to live your life in certain ways probably doesn’t fly with Ron either.
But is long as you’re good at your job, that’s all that matters.
The discussion begins with rights and ends with rights. Asking for a right other people enjoy is not asking for special treatment.
Not all behaviors are voluntary; that something is a behavior doesn't make it a choice. A person with tourettes cusses, and that is a behavior, but that doesn't mean it's voluntary. Who one is attracted to is also not voluntary, though perhaps acting on that attraction is in normal circumstances. But then we have an issue with the first question--why do some people get to act on their attraction when the object is the opposite sex but for those whom it is the same sex they merit criticism?
Third issue. That something is adaptive according to evolution by natural selection does not automatically make it good, valuable, or worthwhile. Arguably rape another of the opposite sex is adaptive--doesn't mean it is good thing to do.
I won't get into the "creative paradigm" because I don't believe in it and I don't think it has a legitimate role in determining policy.
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Just a warning for everyone. Let's keep this discussion in bounds or we're going to have to lock it. Religion and politics are way too divisive right now and aren't allowed on the board. I realize its tough because Brown is a polarizing figure, but let's keep it clean.
any chance we could just have an open ended OT thread...I love talking these things especially with those who have different views from me
Faith is no reason to be stupid.
Give a monkey a brain, he'll think he's the center of the universe.
GBR
Lack of faith is no reason to be stupid, either.
Educate yourself or quit telling Christians how to think. Ron Brown is not and never has been a hateful man. You obviously are.
He just doesn’t want the LGBTQ community to have the same rights and benefits he does. I guess technically not hateful, unless you are the one without benefits or rights..........
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