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[GretnaShawn]

I can appreciate your response as you put some thought into it. Here's the deal though....

In your Williams example, Tyjon hadn't signed yet. He was fair game so of course Williams continued to show him love and work to flip him. And that was going to be true right up until signing day. You think Williams has love for Dez?

What's interesting to me are how badly Husker fans yearn for the Glory years. How do you think Wistrom and Peter treated opponents. How does our best player in the history of Nebraska football (Suh) play the game. How does Incognito treat people? Lawrence Phillips. Scott Frost. How many times have we heard "boy I sure wish we had a Tommie, Richie, Suh again. You know what? Those guys are some of the biggest jerks we have ever had at each position. They didn't care about people more than they cared about winning.

See our fans want to win and piss and moan about not winning championships but then they don't commit to having a savage mentality where they would step on their own mothers hand if she was on the other team and reaching for a fumbled football. Those guys I just mentioned would have. And we won.

People love Tysons record in the ring. His picture is listed in the dictionary next to the word savage. The second Mike stopped being Mike he lost badly.

It's rare when you can have it both ways. You either have that burning step on moms hand mentality or you dont. I don't blame or shame anyone here who doesn't have it. It is what it is. It's not for everyone. But results usually align with those who care very little about their opponent.

I highly doubt that Williams hopes that Dez or Calvin break their legs, tear an ACL or get caught up in drugs. Especially after developing a relationship with them over a year or two. And if he wants those things to happen, then he is a shit human. Also, to clarify, not having 'love' for Dez is completely different than wanting Dez to ruin his life by getting into drugs or ruining his career by tearing his knee up.

Yes, I want the players to have mean streaks. But I don't want our players to want opponents to get suspended or hurt before the game. I would much rather have players that want to compete against the best at their best and beat them that way. One way is being a coward and the other is not.

Again, I can't believe I have to make this distinction, having a mean streak or being a hard-nosed player like Suh/Riola/Peter/Incognito/etc is very different than celebrating a kid getting charged with a felony for getting caught up in drugs or for tearing an ACL and losing his future. Also, you are not a player. You shouldn't think of yourself as Jason Peter-esq and celebrate being a 'savage.' You are a dude on a message board, not a player.

Caring little about your opponent does not equal celebrating an opponents drug dealing conviction. The difference is pretty drastic.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Took hydrocodone last night. Nothing "kicking" about it. Makes you drowsy and relieves pain. Very low addictive potential. Xanax on the other hand is an anti-anxiety mood elevating drug. I have never taken it but people get hooked on it because it can in most cases make you "feel really good about the world".

Xanax is not a mood elevating drug. It is an anxiolytic. When anxiety is alleviated, there may be a 'mood' improvement, but Xanax is not considered an antidepressant.

BTW, I took hydrocodone for a dental procedure, and I'm not sure I've ever felt better. That was an amazing feeling. I can see how people would get addicted. Edit - It's highly addictive.

 

[dinglefritz]

Xanax is not a mood elevating drug. It is an anxiolytic. When anxiety is alleviated, there may be a 'mood' improvement, but Xanax is not considered an antidepressant.

BTW, I took hydrocodone for a dental procedure, and I'm not sure I've ever felt better. That was an amazing feeling. I can see how people would get addicted. Edit - It's highly addictive.

I've had pharmacology and am a licensed health care professional. Hydrocodone is used extensively because its addictive properties are lower than many other narcotics. Sounds like you're just a cheap drunk. I already stated that Xanax is an anti-anxiety drug. If you think people don't feel better on Xanax you are sadly mistaken and it can be highly addictive for that effect.

 

[huskerfan830]

Don't agree with Huskerbill's overall sentiment of ill will to a player, or in this case former recruit, but the thread was made with an intention of more than 'look where they are now'. Perhaps it was posted to show NU potentially dodged a bullet, karma post, or screw Texas. I'm thinking all 3.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I've had pharmacology and am a licensed health care professional. Hydrocodone is used extensively because its addictive properties are lower than many other narcotics. Sounds like you're just a cheap drunk.

Without getting into a lengthy exchange here, just suffice it to say you shouldn't be calling Xanax a mood elevator. It increases GABA, which downregulates serotonin and norepinephrine, the two main 'antidepressant neurotransmitters.'

Hydrocodone is still highly addictive. How it compares to other narcotics is up for debate, but millions have been treated for hydrocodone addiction.

 

[dinglefritz]

Without getting into a lengthy exchange here, just suffice it to say you shouldn't be calling Xanax a mood elevator. It increases GABA, which downregulates serotonin and norepinephrine, the two main 'antidepressant neurotransmitters.'

Hydrocodone is still highly addictive. How it compares to other narcotics is up for debate, but millions have been treated for hydrocodone addiction.

So you can use Wikipedia apparently. If you are anxious or just plain upset about something you can not tell me that Xanax doesn't elevate you mood. You're playing word games. How does it make you feel? It makes me feel better. I would call that a mood elevation from worried and afraid.

 

[HBK4life]

You have to chase the oxy with a beer (or two) to get the full effect. Pretty sure it's written on the label somewhere.

Hydro is just generic Vicodin. Oxy..generic Percocet.I took when I had back injury. They just dried me out and backed me up. I was taking 4 times the recommended amount along with cyclobenzaprine aka muscle relaxers. Guess I have a high tolerance. And yes with beers. Lol

 

[huskerhooligansdotcom]

Xanax is the worst... makes you feel like a zombie

 

[Hoosker Du]

So you can use Wikipedia apparently. If you are anxious or just plain upset about something you can not tell me that Xanax doesn't elevate you mood. You're playing word games. How does it make you feel? It makes me feel better. I would call that a mood elevation from worried and afraid.

Nope, didn't require any Wikipedia. I sold these drugs for years. I'm glad it gave you some relief, and yes it will elevate your mood because it reduces anxiety. But it isn't labeled a mood elevator/antidepressant and doesn't have the same mechanism of action. Actually, their MOA are the complete opposite. Antidepressants increase serotonin (SSRI) and sometimes norepinephrine (SNRI).

I'm glad the meds have helped you. I've seen lives that were essentially considered over in the mind of the patient completely transformed.

 

[dinglefritz]

Nope, didn't require any Wikipedia. I sold these drugs for years. I'm glad it gave you some relief, and yes it will elevate your mood because it reduces anxiety. But it isn't labeled a mood elevator/antidepressant and doesn't have the same mechanism of action. Actually, their MOA are the complete opposite. Antidepressants increase serotonin (SSRI) and sometimes norepinephrine (SNRI).

I'm glad the meds have helped you. I've seen lives that were essentially considered over in the mind of the patient completely transformed.

I've never taken Xanax. That is how a patient responds when you ask them how it made them feel.

 

[jay-cheese]

Less or more addictive...it's still addictive.

Good luck to this kid in getting this sorted out.

GBR

 

[dinglefritz]

Xanax is the worst... makes you feel like a zombie

Not everybody has the same response to medications.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Took some time off recently for surgery and they sent home with morphine, oxycodone, valium, and something else who's name escapes me. Man, what a couple of weeks that was. I'm not going to lie, those things make you feel good. Real good. I hope I never have to be sent home with any of them again for any reason, but if you know you aren't going anywhere for a while and you need some pain treated....them is the ticket.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I've never taken Xanax. That is how a patient responds when you ask them how it made them feel.

Therapist/psychology?

 

[dinglefritz]

Took some time off recently for surgery and they sent home with morphine, oxycodone, valium, and something else who's name escapes me. Man, what a couple of weeks that was. I'm not going to lie, those things make you feel good. Real good. I hope I never have to be sent home with any of them again for any reason, but if you know you aren't going anywhere for a while and you need some pain treated....them is the ticket.

Drugs are good....

 

[frankluv]

He should have been arrested because of all of my lost time and labor when I stayed up and pounded my keyboard to give him all of my votes in the Oklahoma Player of The Year Award. That will teach him and me.

 

[SeaOfRed75]

Vicodin aint shit. Just ask Jason Peter.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Percocet is not generic oxycodone. Percocet is oxy with acetaminophen. Percodan is oxy and aspirin.

When one has serious pain, and or long term pain then straight oxy is often prescribed to not haf the adverse effects of the acetaminophen or aspirin.

All opiates are wildly addictive regardless of some ill founded statements here.

A side note; oxycodone was developed by Bayer as a "non" addictive replacement for heroin, and used widely in WWI.

It has the same effect as heroin, and is highly addictive as well. Basically synthetic heroin.

Oxycontin is nothing but time release oxycodone.

I sadly learned all about this as my love died of pancreatic cancer a year ago.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

The kid was selling illegally obtained drugs on a high school campus. The rest of the who's dick is bigger stuff is irrelevant.

Ha ha ha

 

[dinglefritz]

Therapist/psychology?

nope. Doesn't matter.

All opiates are wildly addictive regardless of some ill founded statements here.
I sadly learned all about this as my love died of pancreatic cancer a year ago.

Sorry for your loss. I sat with a family member when they died and nothing could control their pain. I would not say that all opiates are "wildly" addictive. I have yet to talk to anybody that has taken them for post-operative pain control that has become addicted to them. MOST people want to get off of them as quickly as they can. I don't know what the percentage of people are that are prone to addiction is, but I would bet it is similar to the percentage of people that become addicted to them is, but you have to take oxycodone for quite a while to become addicted (physically dependent) to it.. There is a difference in the addictive potential for the different forms of narcotics with Heroin obviously being very quickly addictive. Morphine a little less so and so on.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

nope. Doesn't matter.

Sorry for your loss. I sat with a family member when they died and nothing could control their pain. I would not say that all opiates are "wildly" addictive. I have yet to talk to anybody that has taken them for post-operative pain control that has become addicted to them. MOST people want to get off of them as quickly as they can. I don't know what the percentage of people are that are prone to addiction is, but I would bet it is similar to the percentage of people that become addicted to them is, but you have to take oxycodone for quite a while to become addicted (physically dependent) to it.. There is a difference in the addictive potential for the different forms of narcotics with Heroin obviously being very quickly addictive. Morphine a little less so and so on.

Well, dingle, I am not attracted to them, as I sat with bottles of all when Kim died. I actually considered just drinking to oblivion, and then taking oxy, but obviously did not.

I did play with them, as I am an old hippie... They all, morphine included, made me violently ill, and had me puking my guts out over the rail of the deck within 30 minutes of ingestion.

I actually tried this stuff 3 or 4 times before I wised up. She was also prescribed a benzodiazapine, Lorazepam. It was all heavy stuff. I, after my ill advised attempts at self medication after her death threw it all over the rail into the ocean. It is all bad stuff, needed at bad times.



Now I have to think of all the starfishies I addicted, lol.

After she died I did lots of research into the stuff

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Dingle, thank you for your thoughts, it was a bad time.

I am on the anniversary of all the suffering now, and it is hard.

 

[LBremser]

Dingle, thank you for your thoughts, it was a bad time.

I am on the anniversary of all the suffering now, and it is hard.

I'm sorry to hear this and I'm sure that it is very hard - hang in there.

 

[HuskerBlueDevil]

I am sure it will take time to sort through. We don't know if he is a real "pusher" or got involved in a pier pressure induced stunt because there as some Xanax laying around.

So Nebraska Fan, as I read it you are saying that maybe "pier" pressure got him into deep waters.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Trust me, I've made plenty of spelling goofs here. For some reason yours just struck me as funny.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Back to the topic, the kid was selling very dangerous stuff in school. Not that we could not find "stuff" at LSE in the 70's, but he was selling benzos. Highly sought after, and dangerous.

I hope he gets his life straight, and I hope this is the event that does it.

 

[Hoosker Du]

The kid was selling illegally obtained drugs on a high school campus. The rest of the who's dick is bigger stuff is irrelevant.

Ha ha ha

Actually it does matter. When someone is spewing inaccurate information about medications, people may self-medicate and make things worse.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Percocet is not generic oxycodone. Percocet is oxy with acetaminophen. Percodan is oxy and aspirin.

When one has serious pain, and or long term pain then straight oxy is often prescribed to not haf the adverse effects of the acetaminophen or aspirin.

All opiates are wildly addictive regardless of some ill founded statements here.

A side note; oxycodone was developed by Bayer as a "non" addictive replacement for heroin, and used widely in WWI.

It has the same effect as heroin, and is highly addictive as well. Basically synthetic heroin.

Oxycontin is nothing but time release oxycodone.

I sadly learned all about this as my love died of pancreatic cancer a year ago.

Very sorry, man. Life just isn't real fair sometimes. The shitheels live forever, it seems, and those that make the world a beautiful place to be seem to leave us far too soon.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Not really the topic, but if one looks just a little, one will find evidence of many unsupposing folks, athletes or not, becoming addicted to opiates after an injury.

Opiates come in all manners of form, as they are the best pain inhibitor we have.

I actually had a doctor advise me to take a shot of whiskey with my meperdines after a serious mountaineering accident I had in 1988.

I got my one and only, so far, helicopter ride in the rescue. My one and only ride in an Ambulance too, damn, I was stable, wo no sirens on the ride, lol

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Actually it does matter. When someone is spewing inaccurate information about medications, people may self-medicate and make things worse.

Anyone who goes to the free football board for pharmaceutical advice has more issues than you can help them with.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Anyone who goes to the free football board for pharmaceutical advice has more issues than you can help them with.

Nah, we all know this board is capable of generating some fairly unique topics. Pharma is fairly tame by comparison.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

What can pharma do for yoga pants. Damn that thread has me thinking..

Where were yoga pants on the 80's

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

What can pharma do for yoga pants. Damn that thread has me thinking..

Where were yoga pants on the 80's

Covered by leg warmers and oversized sweaters.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

So Nebraska Fan, as I read it you are saying that maybe "pier" pressure got him into deep waters.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Trust me, I've made plenty of spelling goofs here. For some reason yours just struck me as funny.

strikes me funny re-reading. Forest Gump knew how to apply pier pressure.

 

[bigboxes]

Percocet is not generic oxycodone. Percocet is oxy with acetaminophen. Percodan is oxy and aspirin.

When one has serious pain, and or long term pain then straight oxy is often prescribed to not haf the adverse effects of the acetaminophen or aspirin.

All opiates are wildly addictive regardless of some ill founded statements here.

A side note; oxycodone was developed by Bayer as a "non" addictive replacement for heroin, and used widely in WWI.

It has the same effect as heroin, and is highly addictive as well. Basically synthetic heroin.

Oxycontin is nothing but time release oxycodone.

I sadly learned all about this as my love died of pancreatic cancer a year ago.

I know all about these. I was prescribed hydrocodone after foot surgery. Thought I would get a free high. Didn't make me feel good at all. Quite the opposite. Nausea and imminent vomiting I'd what awaited me. I didn't believe it and tried a second dose. Mistake. Flushed the rest down the toilet. Asked the doc if I was allergic to it. She said no. Said it affects people differently.

My mother called me a few weeks ago to have "that talk". Her cancer, which was in remission, had come back. It was all over. She is terminal. She was getting her affairs in order. She has arranged housekeeping and hospice care. She's using opiates as well.

My wife has stage IV cancer. She's been on some experimental targeted chemo for a year now at a cost of $13k a month. She uses 3 different fentanyl patches, oxycodone and at least 10 other drugs daily to combat pain, nausea and all the side effects from the chemo.

They put acetaminophen in many of these opiates to discourage abuse. The junkies know how to separate the codeine from the acetaminophen. Those of you that chase hydrocodone with alcohol are idiots. Alcohol and acetaminophen will destroy your liver. Just a little PSA.

Spectrumalaska, I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[LikeNebraska]

Yeah cause my posts are of the tone of a guy who is here to make friends. I'll never meet a single one of you on this board or any Husker board I've been part of - nor do I care to. If somehow you equate Internet message board posts and friendship, maybe you're the one who is paying for companionship.

I haven't paid a dime to Rivals you dumb****er, whereas you....

 

[huskerfan1414]

He knew it was wrong and did it anyway. I dont feel bad for him.

 

[huskerfan1414]

I know all about these. I was prescribed hydrocodone after foot surgery. Thought I would get a free high. Didn't make me feel good at all. Quite the opposite. Nausea and imminent vomiting I'd what awaited me. I didn't believe it and tried a second dose. Mistake. Flushed the rest down the toilet. Asked the doc if I was allergic to it. She said no. Said it affects people differently.

My mother called me a few weeks ago to have "that talk". Her cancer, which was in remission, had come back. It was all over. She is terminal. She was getting her affairs in order. She has arranged housekeeping and hospice care. She's using opiates as well.

My wife has stage IV cancer. She's been on some experimental targeted chemo for a year now at a cost of $13k a month. She uses 3 different fentanyl patches, oxycodone and at least 10 other drugs daily to combat pain, nausea and all the side effects from the chemo.

They put acetaminophen in many of these opiates to discourage abuse. The junkies know how to separate the codeine from the acetaminophen. Those of you that chase hydrocodone with alcohol are idiots. Alcohol and acetaminophen will destroy your liver. Just a little PSA.

Spectrumalaska, I'm sorry for your loss.

Am going to pray for your family tonight bigboxes.

 

[bigboxes]

Am going to pray for your family tonight bigboxes.

I welcome all the prayers you can muster. Save some for me too.

 

[bigboxes]

Oh, I also lost a friend about ten years ago that loved vicoden/lortabs. Parents found him dead in bed. If you think that opiates are fun to abuse just wait. You will need more and more just to get that high. Eventually, you'll overdose and the opiates stops the part of your brain that tells you to breathe.

I had a coworker who was on opiates. Thought it was heroine, but figured out he started out with oxycondone and worked his way to fentanyl and then on to some synthetic super shit. He told me the street name. I looked it up and it's bad news. The stuff you read about in the news. He lost a friend who overdosed, but still kept on abusing. He's just going to keep on losing his jobs and going back to prison until it kills him.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

Big I loved the yoga pants, My god they were hot, but not like the woman we lost
I am so sorry for what you are going through.

One who has gone through this understands