Portal QBs -look back

[drg1104]

I'm sick of people bashing HH. He's the best we have at the moment and an easy kid to like and root far.... He isn't a hired gun...he's never quit when all of his peers did...he may be playing injured...I'm just not understanding people piling on him right now.

I do agree with you on piling on our young QB. And if you look at my original post I wasn't really saying anything about HH, but about a poster that has annoyingly taken over countless threads about that one time he was right.. And anyone with the tiniest critique or wish for improved performance with HH was met with 20-30 post on how toxic their fandom is...

 

[king_kong_]

And anyone with the tiniest critique or wish for improved performance with HH was met with 20-30 post on how toxic their fandom is...

do you have proof of this?

or are we at the part where we just throw out baseless accusations because our feelings are hurt?

 

[drg1104]

do you have proof of this?

or are we at the part where we just throw out baseless accusations because our feelings are hurt?

Start at any conversation while QB play was being discussed in relation to HH. You're there.

 

[king_kong_]

Start at any conversation while QB play was being discussed in relation to HH. You're there.

this is a conversation about QB play and HH.

I don't see anything close to what you're accusing me of.

funny how that works.

 

[HuskerDrew]

I'm sick of people bashing HH. He's the best we have at the moment and an easy kid to like and root far.... He isn't a hired gun...he's never quit when all of his peers did...he may be playing injured...I'm just not understanding people piling on him right now.

No one’s “bashing” HH. We are all rooting for him, and hope he wins 100% of the rest of his games. But we can see he has serious limitations and that if we want to win 9+ games, we need an upgrade. We still also can concede he’s our best QB right now.
I won’t hold out hope though, because while he is indeed a new starter, this is his 3rd year on the team and he isn’t getting better, he’s actually regressing a bit.
I am rooting for him. I am also rooting for us to get a couple potentially better QBs through the portal and kindly ask Sims and Purdy to get their degree and move on.
Also, like someone said, get another QB besides Kaelin, and get 2 for the 2025 class as well. Right now we really don’t have anything. I don’t give a pass to the OL either though, they aren’t good.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

those are feelings, not facts.

purdy has not posted a single passing stat at NU better than HH and each have played 6 games.

and purdy had the benefit of throwing to Trey Palmer.

You don’t think it’s a FACT that HH is a turnover machine?

Or that he isn’t running like he was before?

Those are feelings. Those are facts.

 

[king_kong_]

You don’t think it’s a FACT that HH is a turnover machine?

Or that he isn’t running like he was before?

Those are feelings. Those are facts.

those two points are fair.

FWIW purdy has started 2 games at NU and has accounted for 4 turnovers.

 

[beaglehusker]

Hartman is a disappointment. How much NIL money was wasted on some of these portal QBs. There needs to be a cap

We need QBs for competition and depth.

More importantly we need OL, then maybe wr and rb

 

[wkato]

under performing what, exactly?

sounds like a you problem.

I don't expect a kid who hasn't played meaningful football since he was at Kearney Catholic, has been buried on the depth chart and "coached" by 3 different QB coaches/OCs in 3 years to look like Joe Montana week in week out like the lion's share of posters (idiots) here.

he's got a long way to go and gets very little or no help from anyone on offense.

Well there lies the reason for Purdy to get a chance, he's been buried in the depth chart. He played in 6 games but not the entire game. He's had two passing attempts this season, one at Colorado and one against LA Tech. In 2021 he was 5 of 5 and in 2022 he was 22 of 47. Not great but definitely not enough play time to establish any rhythm. What do we have to lose at this point. Yeah, I get it, bowl eligibility. With that said, 1 complete quarter against MSU might not have hurt. Trotting him out for one or two hikes doesn't establish nothing.

 

[oldjar07]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

These guys that did better at other places suggests it's a system issue or not enough talent surrounding them at their new schools rather than it's the qb himself. I would take everyone on that list over what I've seen from Sims.

 

[pascal]

to conclude:

DJ U, Shedeur Sanders, Graham Mertz and Jack Plummer are the only QBs of the top 30 transfers enjoying more success in their first year at their new school than they had previously

the other 26 are either not playing or are playing significantly worse than they had prior to transferring

that's a 13% hit rate. take out Sanders due to his circumstances as not a traditional transfer and that number drops to 10%.

good luck to our coaching staff identifying one this offseason.

so far, NU is 0 for 4 bringing in transfer QBs, with just 1 actually winning a single game.

We don't pay Rhule 5 or 6 million to guess at portal qb picking. 2023-2024, we better be good at this or we are gonna get ran over. And message boards fans aren't responsible to do it for him.

 

[king_kong_]

We don't pay Rhule 5 or 6 million to guess at portal qb picking. 2023-2024, we better be good at this or we are gonna get ran over. And message boards fans aren't responsible to do it for him.

all 30 of those QBs went to play for a coach who's handsomely compensated

it's a 10% gambit unless your son is the target

 

[pascal]

all 30 of those QBs went to play for a coach who's handsomely compensated

it's a 10% gambit unless your son is the target

I know, isn't college football hard?
I just want to go home and snuggle with my puppy.

 

[HominidHusker]

1. I want HH to be great. He’s not. Could he improve some? yes. To get us what we really need? not likely. Should we repeat the Adrian experiment and give him 3 years to grow? I’d argue no.

2. HH passer rating (110) is ranked #105 right now of 110 total ranked QBs. 100+ QBs with higher passer rating. 100 QBs plus likely a good number of backups who would fit in that Top 100 group if given the chance. We need to be able to recruit and retain talent that can perform in the top 50-60 if we want any chance to be good again. For a school with Nebraska resources and coach salaries, that has to be the minimum expectation.

3. HH 50% completion is ranked 109 of 110. We’ve had some drops, but sub 60% isn’t gonna get us anywhere.

4. Top 55 QBs have thrown 2x the TDs that HH has. *need to factor in games played, but still paints the picture pretty clear.
HH a runner? yes, but still 19 QBs with more rushing TDs. His passing+rushing TDs is still less than 66 QBs passing only TDs.

5. Yes we need better players on OL and WR… but we’ve also played one of our easier schedules this year. There’s many ways to dissect QB play, but these are some of the indicators that tell me there’s plenty more talent out there for us to find. Ask yourself how do 100 other schools do better?

 

[HominidHusker]

Ha! I just looked up Wazzou's record...didn't realize they were 4-5....the game I watched him in that I was impressed with was their win over Wisconsin, but that looks less and less impressive as the week's go by...please take away my QB evaluation commentary privileges immediately

Cameron Ward has 17 TDs to 4 INTs for a 149 rating… and same number of rushing TDs as HH.
We definitely wish we had him.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

those two points are fair.

FWIW purdy has started 2 games at NU and has accounted for 4 turnovers.

Yeah he sucks too. But that was last year. At some point you have to make a change to “the other guy” just because anything less is the cliche “definition of insanity”

It’s like going back to Simms. Had simms moved us down the field, I’ll bet he stays in as QB and Haarbergs “mouth bleeding” does t allow him to come back.

Simms fumbled and Haarberg is back in.

Do I think Purdy would light it up? Not sure. But HH has been so ineffective that I’m now willing to take the chance with him. It can’t be much worse. I’d be willing to bet that 50% of HH drives have ended in turnovers or 3 and out. That’s about as bad as it gets.

Purdy was rhe Arizona HS offensive player of the year. 54 TDs as a senior without many INTs. Four star kid who started as a freshman at FSU.

HH has never shown he’s that effective as a QB. He’s a super athlete and a great kid. But as a QB he’s never been that dude.

So I’m willing to try Purdy. What’s the risk? A turnover? Incomplete pass? We already are getting that.

 

[king_kong_]

Yeah he sucks too. But that was last year. At some point you have to make a change to “the other guy” just because anything less is the cliche “definition of insanity”

It’s like going back to Simms. Had simms moved us down the field, I’ll bet he stays in as QB and Haarbergs “mouth bleeding” does t allow him to come back.

Simms fumbled and Haarberg is back in.

Do I think Purdy would light it up? Not sure. But HH has been so ineffective that I’m now willing to take the chance with him. It can’t be much worse. I’d be willing to bet that 50% of HH drives have ended in turnovers or 3 and out. That’s about as bad as it gets.

Purdy was rhe Arizona HS offensive player of the year. 54 TDs as a senior without many INTs. Four star kid who started as a freshman at FSU.

HH has never shown he’s that effective as a QB. He’s a super athlete and a great kid. But as a QB he’s never been that dude.

So I’m willing to try Purdy. What’s the risk? A turnover? Incomplete pass? We already are getting that.

First 5-1 stretch we’ve seen in 7 years and you and many others want the QB kicked to the curb after he plays poorly

Sounds about right

 

[pascal]

First 5-1 stretch we’ve seen in 7 years and you and many others want the QB kicked to the curb after he plays poorly

Sounds about right

1. There is no 5-1 stretch. Our success, or lack of usual misery, has been due to the to the defense.

2. No one is suggesting kicking him to the curb.

 

[ssmill777]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

Great post. Lots of info! Thanks for spending the time to put it together.

 

[dinglefritz]

Yeah he sucks too. But that was last year. At some point you have to make a change to “the other guy” just because anything less is the cliche “definition of insanity”

It’s like going back to Simms. Had simms moved us down the field, I’ll bet he stays in as QB and Haarbergs “mouth bleeding” does t allow him to come back.

Simms fumbled and Haarberg is back in.

Do I think Purdy would light it up? Not sure. But HH has been so ineffective that I’m now willing to take the chance with him. It can’t be much worse. I’d be willing to bet that 50% of HH drives have ended in turnovers or 3 and out. That’s about as bad as it gets.

Purdy was rhe Arizona HS offensive player of the year. 54 TDs as a senior without many INTs. Four star kid who started as a freshman at FSU.

HH has never shown he’s that effective as a QB. He’s a super athlete and a great kid. But as a QB he’s never been that dude.

So I’m willing to try Purdy. What’s the risk? A turnover? Incomplete pass? We already are getting that.

At least a series or two. Those times HH got clobbered were the perfect opportunity last weekend. If he sucks you at least gave him a shot.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

At least a series or two. Those times HH got clobbered were the perfect opportunity last weekend. If he sucks you at least gave him a shot.

Agreed. Can’t let a 4 star ex Arizona POY who started as a true freshman as FSU and brother plays for the 49ers sit on the bench when your starter is a turnover machine and the offense looks inept.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

First 5-1 stretch we’ve seen in 7 years and you and many others want the QB kicked to the curb after he plays poorly

Sounds about right

The defense got that done. Our offense’s job was “don’t screw up and lose us games”. And against MSU there were multiple screw ups. Our offense with Haarberg is averaging im guessing around 10-14ppg in Big Ten games. That’s awful considering how well our defense is playing and the field position they are handing our offense.

Note - Take the blocked FG for a TD off the offensive tally (that wasnt theirs) if you are planning on doing some math.

I’m sorry. You can wish and pray that people think Haarberg is killing it. He isn’t. We are looking at it objectively.

Just because we have gone 5-2, doesn’t mean we should ignore the fact that our offense isn’t doing anything to help us win those games and ignore the fact that we need to make a change.

There is VERY little risk in looking at Purdy. Most of HH drives don’t score points. Putting Purdy in can’t do much worse.

I’m at that point. And so is everyone else other than you and maybe a few others.

 

[king_kong_]

The defense got that done. Our offense’s job was “don’t screw up and lose us games”. And against MSU there were multiple screw ups. Our offense with Haarberg is averaging im guessing around 10-14ppg in Big Ten games. That’s awful considering how well our defense is playing and the field position they are handing our offense.

Note - Take the blocked FG for a TD off the offensive tally (that wasnt theirs) if you are planning on doing some math.

I’m sorry. You can wish and pray that people think Haarberg is killing it. He isn’t. We are looking at it objectively.

Just because we have gone 5-2, doesn’t mean we should ignore the fact that our offense isn’t doing anything to help us win those games and ignore the fact that we need to make a change.

There is VERY little risk in looking at Purdy. Most of HH drives don’t score points. Putting Purdy in can’t do much worse.

I’m at that point. And so is everyone else other than you and maybe a few others.

what's it like to not remember what happened just 12 months ago?

purdy has never outperformed HH's worst outing in a start. ever. he's 0-4 in his career starts. he's a 50% career passer. he's turned the ball over at a similar rate to HH.

you're not being objective if you fail to factor purdy's putrid play (yes, worse than HH) into the equation.

there's a ton of risk in playing purdy. we have a bowl game to get to. purdy presents zero opportunity to win.

as I've said multiple times, if Rhule wants to go back to Sims, that's his choice. that he's sticking with Haarberg should speak volumes, but falls on deaf ears and dead brains.

 

[HatOnAHat]

Geez man.. Not sure anyone is delusional to believe HH can or will be anything better than a glorified tight end playing QB here at Nebraska but you.

It remains precious the way you post numerous things flawed around HH, but fail to admit his flaws or concede another QB in the future may be better suited to play in order to help this offense going forward.

Nah, man. If that's your final analysis on Haarberg, there are at LEAST two "delusionals" in here, lol. The kid is taking his lumps basically like a freshman and his throwing motion needs help, but no way do I write him off as a guy who won't improve. I don't know how anyone could say 'this is all he's ever going to be.' Development is a thing at every level.

Call me even more delusional, because that's the same thing I say about Sims, but I'd say I'm more sure of it with Haarberg just because this program is a part of his identity. They'll both work hard; Heinrich has cared about the N longer, so is more likely to push.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

what's it like to not remember what happened just 12 months ago?

purdy has never outperformed HH's worst outing in a start. ever. he's 0-4 in his career starts. he's a 50% career passer. he's turned the ball over at a similar rate to HH.

you're not being objective if you fail to factor purdy's putrid play (yes, worse than HH) into the equation.

there's a ton of risk in playing purdy. we have a bowl game to get to. purdy presents zero opportunity to win.

as I've said multiple times, if Rhule wants to go back to Sims, that's his choice. that he's sticking with Haarberg should speak volumes, but falls on deaf ears and dead brains.

Is Purdy 0-4? He started one game at FSU. Passed for 235 and 2 TDs. He started against Illinois and Michigan (got hurt early).

Where is the other loss from? Oklahoma?

All I know is that Rhule has said that Purdy might have gone in before haarberg had he not gotten hurt that day.

Haarberg isn’t the guy. I’m sorry that upsets you. I’m sorry you’d rather play him than a more unknown entity in Purdy.

I’m at the point at which I’m willing to try anything new. I’ve seen two of the three QBs. Might as well look at the 4 star with the pedigree who is now healthy.

 

[king_kong_]

Is Purdy 0-4? He started one game at FSU. Passed for 235 and 2 TDs. He started against Illinois and Michigan (got hurt early).

Where is the other loss from? Oklahoma?

All I know is that Rhule has said that Purdy might have gone in before haarberg had he not gotten hurt that day.

Haarberg isn’t the guy. I’m sorry that upsets you. I’m sorry you’d rather play him than a more unknown entity in Purdy.

I’m at the point at which I’m willing to try anything new. I’ve seen two of the three QBs. Might as well look at the 4 star with the pedigree who is now healthy.

He started 2 at FSU and vs Minn and Mich last year

0-4

 

[OzzyLvr]

He started 2 at FSU and vs Minn and Mich last year

0-4

Chubba Purdy Bio

Before Nebraska (Perry HS/Florida State)
Purdy came to Nebraska after spending two seasons at Florida State (2020-21). Purdy played in four games with one start for the Seminoles.

Purdy played in three games as a true freshman in 2020. He completed 27-of-53 passes on the season for 219 yards and two touchdowns while rushing 19 times for 57 yards. Purdy earned the start at North Carolina State, becoming only the fifth true freshman quarterback to start a game in Florida State history. He accounted for 235 yards and two touchdowns in his lone start with the Seminoles. Purdy redshirted during the 2021 season, appearing against UMass and completing 5-of-5 passes for 98 yards and two touchdowns, while rushing once for five yards.

 

[king_kong_]

Chubba Purdy Bio

Before Nebraska (Perry HS/Florida State)
Purdy came to Nebraska after spending two seasons at Florida State (2020-21). Purdy played in four games with one start for the Seminoles.

Purdy played in three games as a true freshman in 2020. He completed 27-of-53 passes on the season for 219 yards and two touchdowns while rushing 19 times for 57 yards. Purdy earned the start at North Carolina State, becoming only the fifth true freshman quarterback to start a game in Florida State history. He accounted for 235 yards and two touchdowns in his lone start with the Seminoles. Purdy redshirted during the 2021 season, appearing against UMass and completing 5-of-5 passes for 98 yards and two touchdowns, while rushing once for five yards.

in 2020 he threw 21 passes against pitt, as well, in a 41-17 loss

stat line: 12-21 for 38 yards and 1 INT (LOL)

I guess that was in relief of the starter. he was also benched.

my bad. hand up.

 

[HUSKERBILL]

Kong

Just curious as to what it would take to pique your interest in moving away from Haarberg and TRYING Purdy?

What would it take to get you to say “yeah Haarberg isn’t the guy”.

Serious question. I’m curious.

 

[BleedRed78]

Kong

Just curious as to what it would take to pique your interest in moving away from Haarberg and TRYING Purdy?

What would it take to get you to say “yeah Haarberg isn’t the guy”.

Serious question. I’m curious.

HH is more guy then Purdy from what we've clearly seen

 

[TarheelHuskerFan]

I am glad that Haarberg is our current starter as I believe he is the best we have when healthy. I think he’s banged up and playing through injuries because he has not been the same the last 2 games.

I think he’s the obvious choice right now but we should be recruiting and preparing for our future because his stat lines are terrible.

I get the 5-1 stretch but that is heavily due to the defense. Haarberg was doing better at protecting the ball and not turning it over but that’s changed in recent games.

If I’m the head coach I’m starting Haarberg but if he’s playing like he did last week I pull him and try somebody else for a few drives just like we do when a running back is having a bad game

 

[dinglefritz]

Kong

Just curious as to what it would take to pique your interest in moving away from Haarberg and TRYING Purdy?

What would it take to get you to say “yeah Haarberg isn’t the guy”.

Serious question. I’m curious.

I could be wrong but I think with COVID Purdy would have at least 2 and maybe 3 years of eligibility left. IF you start A game as a true freshman at FSU, you’ve got some talent.

 

[z28craz]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

Are these P5 only transfers?

Someone said it in another thread but we may be better off looking at an FCS transfer with starting experience. It seems with the new transfer rules FCS is the new JUCO. I would be interesting to see how FCS to P5 transfers stack up.

 

[king_kong_]

Kong

Just curious as to what it would take to pique your interest in moving away from Haarberg and TRYING Purdy?

What would it take to get you to say “yeah Haarberg isn’t the guy”.

Serious question. I’m curious.

nothing. purdy is simply not an option based on every snap we've seen him play at Nebraska. his extreme lack of arm talent is downright shocking.

HH is a first-year starter in a new system who hasn't played a snap of competitive football in 3 years, where he competed at the C-1 level.

he's a kid with all the physical tools and intangibles of a big time college football player who is raw as raw gets.

if he's still struggling with 202-level quarterback stuff next year I will concede his ceiling is lower than I thought and he's not the guy.

this is consistent with everything I've said about him since 2021. the people who think I have proclaimed him as the next John Elway are sorely mistaken & manifesting their feelings toward me with things I have simply never said about Haarberg.

Sims is the only other serious quarterback we have on the team this year and if Rhule wants to go back to him, that's his choice & I will root for him to play well and win.

 

[king_kong_]

I could be wrong but I think with COVID Purdy would have at least 2 and maybe 3 years of eligibility left. IF you start A game as a true freshman at FSU, you’ve got some talent.

as I've posted to you before, Purdy has already had 3 freshman seasons and is classified as a 4th year RS Sophomore.

he has 2 years left and I believe he'll spend both here sending in signals unless he wants to stop playing football altogether.

also FSU finished 12th in the ACC in 2020 when purdy started, winning just 3 games.

 

[king_kong_]

Are these P5 only transfers?

Someone said it in another thread but we may be better off looking at an FCS transfer with starting experience. It seems with the new transfer rules FCS is the new JUCO. I would be interesting to see how FCS to P5 transfers stack up.

those were the top 30 transfer QBs as ranked by On3 and not just P5 since several went to G5s, Casey Thompson included.

I don't know if there were any FCS quarterbacks to transfer to FBS and start in year 1 this season but will check.

 

[Huskers123456]

nothing. purdy is simply not an option based on every snap we've seen him play at Nebraska. his extreme lack of arm talent is downright shocking.

HH is a first-year starter in a new system who hasn't played a snap of competitive football in 3 years, where he competed at the C-1 level.

he's a kid with all the physical tools and intangibles of a big time college football player who is raw as raw gets.

if he's still struggling with 202-level quarterback stuff next year I will concede his ceiling is lower than I thought and he's not the guy.

this is consistent with everything I've said about him since 2021. the people who think I have proclaimed him as the next John Elway are sorely mistaken & manifesting their feelings toward me with things I have simply never said about Haarberg.

Sims is the only other serious quarterback we have on the team this year and if Rhule wants to go back to him, that's his choice & I will root for him to play well and win.

I'm down with HH as long as he's either playing good football or we are winning or both. But at the moment MSU appears to have cracked the code by forcing him to throw and doing whatever it takes to not allow those deep touchdowns (i.e mugging Coleman and taking the penalties).

Sims is scary. The whole not even being able to execute a snap without hitting the motion man is terrifying. He's out in my mind.

That leaves Purdy. I agree he has not looked good. But if we are getting beat by Maryland and HH struggles I give Purdy a series or two to make a final decision. If teams stack the box then our qb has to be able to hit those intermediate throws somewhat consistently.

 

[Husker.Wed.]

here's a comprehensive look at the top 30 transfer QBs from 2023 in their first year with their new school:

1. Sam Hartman (5th yr SR) - 7-3 record - 62.8%, 2,272 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. After throwing for 38 and 39 TDs last two years at Wake, he's on pace to significantly underperform those numbers.

2. Devin Leary (5th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 57.4%, 1,905 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Kentucky is significantly worse this year than last, and Leary is nowhere close to his 2021 production at NC St

3. Brennan Armstrong (6th yr SR) - 6-3 record - 58.8%, 971 yards, 5 TD, 6 INT. Armstrong is nowhere close to his 2021 production at UVA.

4. Tanner Mordecai (6th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 63.7%, 1,127 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production at SMU.

5. DJ Uiagalelei (4th yr JR) - 7-2 record - 58.3%, 2,014 yards, 18 TD, 4 INT. Having his best season and his team is in the mix for a conference championship.

6. Sam Jackson V (3rd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 53.1%, 556 yards, 5 TD, 2 INT. Hasn't played since Sept 30th, got benched after frequent bouts of being hurt (not injured).

7. Brady Allen (2nd yr FR) - hasn't played, followed Brohm from Purdue to L'ville.

8. Hudson Card (4th yr JR) - 2-7 record - 57.8%, 1,861 yards, 9 TD, 8 INT. Worst season of his career by far.

9. Tayven Jackson (2nd yr FR) - 3-6 record (2-3 as starter) - 60.9%, 914 yards, 2 TD, 5 INT. Hasn't played since 10/14.

10. Shedeur Sanders (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 70.1%, 2,882 yards, 24 TD, 3 INT. Easily the best stats of the transfers, but little chance CU makes a bowl game and obviously a packaged deal with his father.

11. Payton Thorne (4th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 63.9%, 1,269 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2021 production as a RS FR at MSU.

12. Kedon Slovis (5th yr SR) - 5-4 record - 57.5%, 1,716 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT. Nowhere close to his 2019 production as a true frosh at USC.

13. Nick Evers (2nd yr FR - has not played a down for Wisconsin

14. Jacolby Criswell (4th yr JR) - has thrown 2 passes for 3-6 Arkansas

15. Spencer Sanders (5th yr SR) - appeared in 5 games, started zero for Ole Miss

16. Jeff Sims (4th yr JR) - we have seen what he's done this season

17. Cade McNamera (4th yr SR) - 51.1%, 505 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT. Played only 5 games.

18. Phil Jurkovec (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 50.9%, 818 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Has not played since 9/30.

19. Emory Jones (6th yr SR) - 2-7 record - 60.8%, 1,818 yards, 14 TD, 10 INT, 446 rush yds, 3 TD. Nowhere close to his 2021 production at Florida.

20. Chance Nolan (4th yr JR) - left TCU program before the season even started

21. Walker Howard (2nd yr FR) - has played 1 game at Ole Miss

22. Ben Bryant (6th yr SR) - 4-5 record - 59%, 926 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT. Nowhere close to his production the last 2 years at Cincy.

23. Casey Thompson

24. Graham Mertz (5th yr JR) - 5-4 record - 73.9%, 2,409 yards, 17 TD, 2 INT. Enjoying by far his best season statistically but not translating into wins in the SEC East.

25. Jake Garcia (3rd yr SO) - Has not played a snap at Mizzou

26. Sawyer Robertson (2nd yr SO) - 3-6 record - 49.5%, 647 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT. Began the year as Baylor's starter, has been benched.

27. Braedyn Locke (2nd yr FR) - 5-4 record - 50%, 777 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. Took over for Mordecai, just lost to Indiana.

28. Jack Plummer (5th yr JR) - 8-1 record - 65.3%, 2159 yards, 14 TD, 8 INT. Similar stats to what he'd put up at Cal, has Louisville in the ACC title discussion.

29. Donovan Smith (3rd yr JR) - 4-5 record - 65.9%, 2,303 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT. Having his second best season, near his production 2 years ago as a true frost at TTech.

30. Luke Altmyer (3rd yr SO) - 4-5 record - 64.8%, 1,889 yards, 13 TD, 10 INT. Leading B1G in INT, we destroyed him.

pretty mixed bag. a few standouts in a sea of underachievers.

Excellent research....thanks!

 

[king_kong_]

I'm down with HH as long as he's either playing good football or we are winning or both. But at the moment MSU appears to have cracked the code by forcing him to throw and doing whatever it takes to not allow those deep touchdowns (i.e mugging Coleman and taking the penalties).

Sims is scary. The whole not even being able to execute a snap without hitting the motion man is terrifying. He's out in my mind.

That leaves Purdy. I agree he has not looked good. But if we are getting beat by Maryland and HH struggles I give Purdy a series or two to make a final decision. If teams stack the box then our qb has to be able to hit those intermediate throws somewhat consistently.

it would just be the opposite issue with purdy

there wouldn't be a defender further than 8 yards from the LOS

he's thrown 108 passes as a college quarterback and averages less than 5 air yards per attempt on them. he's thrown 50 passes at NU and averages less than 3 (!) air yards on those (44% completions). every single one of those attempts have come with far, far more talent on the receiving end than we have today.

Haarberg's limitations in the passing game are experiential. purdy's are physical.

 

[beaglehusker]

HH and Kong don't need me to defend them but are people really forgetting how bad Purdy has looked in the past. Lacking arm strength and admitted he gets too nervous. I think he had one good drive and promptly hurt himself.

Maybe his arm has gotten stronger, but I doubt it. If HH gets injured I'd rather see Sims first. That's how bad Purdy has been.